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HipChick

(25,485 posts)
Fri Jan 27, 2012, 05:14 PM Jan 2012

Obama depicted as head of Slave Ship in controversial GOP ad..



Portraying our first African-American president as the captain of a slave ship in a political ad probably isn't the world's best idea. Mark Oxner, a Republican running for Congress in the Orlando area, did just that. It's not so much offensive, really, as it is laughably terrible. Get it? Obama is enslaving our children with debt.

Redistricting will probably result in a new congressional district covering parts of Orlando. It will likely lean Democrat, and our old pal Alan Grayson will be running. So is this Oxner fellow. It appears this race could very well be a hilariously horrible one to watch


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http://blogs.miaminewtimes.com/riptide/2012/01/florida_republican_candidates_1.php


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Obama depicted as head of Slave Ship in controversial GOP ad.. (Original Post) HipChick Jan 2012 OP
What will his excuse be??? gratuitous Jan 2012 #1
I'm going to pick JustAnotherGen Jan 2012 #2
You forgot "6) Some of my best friends are slave ship captains!" msanthrope Jan 2012 #6
And slave ship captains can be redeemed! FailureToCommunicate Jan 2012 #15
They'll pull it, make a non-apology apology and hope it never dies off on YouTube. nt DCKit Jan 2012 #8
When I saw the children rowing liberalmike27 Jan 2012 #28
He's got a face just begging for a Hitler mustache to be drawn on. Robb Jan 2012 #3
Someone had a similar thought Submariner Jan 2012 #4
Looks to me like Oxner is throwing his hat in the ring for the 2016 Repub Presidential nomination LonePirate Jan 2012 #5
Dang, these people don't need drugs to be stupid. nt bemildred Jan 2012 #7
Nobody hates the GOP as much as I do, but aren't we being a little too sensitive? aaaaaa5a Jan 2012 #9
What the heck is wrong with being "sensitive" about race? nt bemildred Jan 2012 #10
There is nothing wrong with being sensitive about discrimination be it race, gender, orientation etc aaaaaa5a Jan 2012 #11
yeah, I didnt see a slave ship Enrique Jan 2012 #12
Cough! Roman galleys were often manned by slaves. n/t Cleita Jan 2012 #21
Amen. n/t vaberella Jan 2012 #27
Dare I say how limited your world history is if you think Ben Hur was any different than Amistad? vaberella Jan 2012 #26
What do you think will happen that is bad if we dump on this stupid ad? bemildred Jan 2012 #19
Ah c'mon. If you can't see the race baiting here, Cleita Jan 2012 #20
Right ProSense Jan 2012 #13
I'm only talking about this specific video within this thread. Not anything else. aaaaaa5a Jan 2012 #18
I respectfully disagree. Capitalocracy Jan 2012 #24
It's not racism when they do it GETPLANING Jan 2012 #14
I would say, "They shouldn't have gone there," except that's where they've always been. n/t gkhouston Jan 2012 #16
my favorite bit: conflating "the 99%" with the bankers paulkienitz Jan 2012 #17
Uh, Oxner, Bush I & II/Cheney/Reagan/Graham already have turned us into debt slaves. Dont call me Shirley Jan 2012 #22
It's not so much racist, really... Dookiestix Jan 2012 #23
welcome to my world SwampG8r Jan 2012 #25
Terrible you say ... ... bayareaboy Jan 2012 #29
LIES! RoccoR5955 Jan 2012 #30

gratuitous

(82,849 posts)
1. What will his excuse be???
Fri Jan 27, 2012, 05:17 PM
Jan 2012

1. Brazen it out and stand by every stupid frame of the ad.

2. Lighten up, it's just a joke.

3. Sometimes you have to employ hyperbole to get your point across.

4. I'm not racist.

5. Why do you hate the troops?

Pick your favorite!

 

DCKit

(18,541 posts)
8. They'll pull it, make a non-apology apology and hope it never dies off on YouTube. nt
Fri Jan 27, 2012, 05:49 PM
Jan 2012

They're predictable that way.

LonePirate

(13,408 posts)
5. Looks to me like Oxner is throwing his hat in the ring for the 2016 Repub Presidential nomination
Fri Jan 27, 2012, 05:43 PM
Jan 2012

The racist base of the Republican party will love him for this.

aaaaaa5a

(4,667 posts)
9. Nobody hates the GOP as much as I do, but aren't we being a little too sensitive?
Fri Jan 27, 2012, 05:53 PM
Jan 2012

Was it a bad commercial because of my political beliefs (and facts!).....YES!

But was it racist, or playing the tune of some type of racist dog whistle...... NO!



Sometimes I think conservatives are so void of diverse thinking and history, that they legitimately come up with ideas or concepts without race in mind. They are then honestly shocked when other people view them and take a different point of view.

Honestly, I have heard legitimate conservative people many times say..... "I'm sorry, I just didn't know."


My 10 thousand dollar bet is that when they made this commercial, they weren't thinking about the "middle passage." In fact if they were educated in the Texas' school system, they may not know the middle passage ever existed. LOL!

aaaaaa5a

(4,667 posts)
11. There is nothing wrong with being sensitive about discrimination be it race, gender, orientation etc
Fri Jan 27, 2012, 06:02 PM
Jan 2012

but race was not the focus of the spot. Nor was it really implied. In fact the slavery scene below deck was more Roman in design than it was Atlantic Slave trade.


Trust me there is nothing wrong with being concerned about race and calling out issues like "welfare queen, food stamps, something for nothing" and other code words used to scare people. I just don't think this is the commercial we need to plant our flag on.


Enrique

(27,461 posts)
12. yeah, I didnt see a slave ship
Fri Jan 27, 2012, 06:11 PM
Jan 2012

i didnt have the guts to be the first person to say it. This looks more like Ben Hur than Amistad.

vaberella

(24,634 posts)
26. Dare I say how limited your world history is if you think Ben Hur was any different than Amistad?
Sat Jan 28, 2012, 05:47 AM
Jan 2012

Most people seem to like to forget that the Romans had not only White slaves but hundreds to thousands of BLACK slaves. Romans were intimately connected to Africa. Most of their bloody military was Black people, this goes for the Greeks just not to the same extent as the Romans. But Black history in relation to Roman domination seems to either be conveniently forgotten or ignored. So to imply that Ben Hur was different to Amistad--- it's laughable at best and sad at worst.

bemildred

(90,061 posts)
19. What do you think will happen that is bad if we dump on this stupid ad?
Fri Jan 27, 2012, 08:16 PM
Jan 2012

Why are you defending this crap? Why do you care? Are you worried somebody somewhere might be unfair to Republicans? Are we breaking some rule? Do we need to be nice about marginal racism? Seriously, I don't get it. I want every politician on this planet to be paranoid that somebody might think he is a racist. This is not academia, this is politics, and it's dirty as your local aeration pond.

ProSense

(116,464 posts)
13. Right
Fri Jan 27, 2012, 06:15 PM
Jan 2012

" Nobody hates the GOP as much as I do, but aren't we being a little too sensitive"

...because Grayson was attacked for his Webster ad, and Democrats are being "sensitive" about a racist, sexist ad?

Do you think a Democrat could get away with the kind of despicable idiocy in that ad?

aaaaaa5a

(4,667 posts)
18. I'm only talking about this specific video within this thread. Not anything else.
Fri Jan 27, 2012, 07:34 PM
Jan 2012


I am very well versed in the GOP's use of race to win political elections. Again, I am only talking about the video posted here. I am not defending Grayson or the GOP with regards to their history on this issue.

Capitalocracy

(4,307 posts)
24. I respectfully disagree.
Sat Jan 28, 2012, 03:39 AM
Jan 2012

I think it is a racist dog whistle. Racists do tend to have this weird fear of being enslaved or subjugated in some unknown way by the races they hate, and this ad speaks to that. Yes, it's not a historically accurate representation of a slave ship to the U.S. (slaves were chained, not manning oars, as those ships didn't use oars) but historical or factual accuracy has never been a big priority for the GOP anyway.

I see where you're coming from, but I definitely think this will speak to racists, and I'm about 99% sure it was designed to do so. It's the kind of language that not only speaks to a racist audience, but promotes a slide into more overt racism in a more borderline audience who don't want to identify themselves as racist but who are susceptible to racist thinking or hidden racist talking points.

GETPLANING

(846 posts)
14. It's not racism when they do it
Fri Jan 27, 2012, 06:16 PM
Jan 2012

or corporate welfare
or bank bailouts
or stimulating energy companies
or paying for lots of stuff
or suppression of questions or dissent
ignoring the Constitution

and on and on

Dont call me Shirley

(10,998 posts)
22. Uh, Oxner, Bush I & II/Cheney/Reagan/Graham already have turned us into debt slaves.
Fri Jan 27, 2012, 08:26 PM
Jan 2012

We can stereotype you as a Know Nothing, racist, hypocrit who has no tact.

SwampG8r

(10,287 posts)
25. welcome to my world
Sat Jan 28, 2012, 03:40 AM
Jan 2012

everyone here who has ever questioned my tone
this is my reality every damn day!

bayareaboy

(793 posts)
29. Terrible you say ... ...
Sat Jan 28, 2012, 02:33 PM
Jan 2012

looks to me like something that came off cutting room floor of South Park Productions after a three day binge of smoking battery acid.

And I mean that with all due respect!
 

RoccoR5955

(12,471 posts)
30. LIES!
Sun Jan 29, 2012, 09:03 PM
Jan 2012

The video is nothing but lies. Post it in the comments people. The Office of Management and Budget states that each and every time a RepubliCON gets into office, the debt goes down, when a RepubliCON gets in, it goes down. Remind people that this started with Reagan, and Bush Jr. helped.

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