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FourScore

(9,704 posts)
Sat Jan 28, 2012, 05:45 PM Jan 2012

HO-LEE SH*T! Have You Seen This?

Sat Jan 28, 2012 at 01:07 AM PST
HO-LEE SH*T! Have You Seen This?
by Yosef 52

Newt Gingrich's flailing campaign in Florida, being seriously outspent by the RomneyBot, has struck back with almost lethal savagery. I'm sure someone during the day took note of this, but I thought I'd post it for the night owls. Gingrich's campaign has put out a short film accusing Romney of Medicare fraud. The film, called "Blood Money" is here:



More after the jump.

This film is BRUTAL in its accusations, as you have seen if you've just watched it. It was on Andrew Sullivan's site, and it will be airing in Florida during this weekend. My God, this is a sharpened ax thrown right at the Romney campaign. Accusing someone of Medicare fraud, in Florida, is the hardest of hardball politics. I don't know if this will be a game changer--Romney is dominating the aiwaves--but I have a feeling that this is going to dog Willard farther down the line.

At least, I hope it does. And if we play our cards right, it will.

http://www.dailykos.com/story/2012/01/28/1059327/-HO-LEE-SH
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HO-LEE SH*T! Have You Seen This? (Original Post) FourScore Jan 2012 OP
Thanks to Citizens United, this is all legal, too. n/t Ian David Jan 2012 #1
Yup, and expect worse as we get closer to the election. Initech Jan 2012 #30
Too late Newt.... trumad Jan 2012 #2
Maybe not, He should be able to hold on until Super Tuesday Motown_Johnny Jan 2012 #7
HO-LEE SH*T is right. I can't believe a republican group would produce this utterly damning snagglepuss Jan 2012 #3
Why not, the elected Rick Scott as governor, after $1.2 billion Medicare settlement SharonAnn Jan 2012 #38
Someone else had posted that upthread earlier. How does anyone keep track of all snagglepuss Jan 2012 #39
Please don't lump all Floridians into one group.... djean111 Jan 2012 #46
so, then Newt will get Mitt elected FLA Governor? hlthe2b Jan 2012 #4
More than just accused as I recall the company he ran was found guilty and paid huge fines Dragonfli Jan 2012 #35
He got off because he pled the fifth! Orangepeel Jan 2012 #41
Fucking a. originalpckelly Jan 2012 #5
Wasn't the Gov. of Florida fined for Medicare fraud? alittlelark Jan 2012 #6
Yes, the biggest medicare fraud case in the history of the us Nictuku Jan 2012 #42
That was my thought too: "but they elected the biggest Medicare fraud... JHB Jan 2012 #48
"Forget it, Jake, it's Florida" NBachers Jan 2012 #8
Wow it's hard to keep track of all the despicable crap spewing out of the repukes nationwide. snagglepuss Jan 2012 #12
Hell, we elected a Medicare/Medicaid fraud-indicted Governor! morningglory Jan 2012 #9
yes, but the pencil necked twerp does onethatcares Jan 2012 #11
Maybe Mitt can get elected Governor of Florida. TahitiNut Jan 2012 #10
Idiots in Florida demand fraud as qualfication nt julian09 Jan 2012 #14
well, now, that was sweet! CTyankee Jan 2012 #13
no kidding! SemperEadem Jan 2012 #24
Is Newt out of his freakin' mind? CTyankee Jan 2012 #31
"He is just into scorched earth." Martin Eden Jan 2012 #43
I think he does get it ... all in prep for 2016 rtassi Jan 2012 #45
How the hell does he have the nerve to run for president? tabatha Jan 2012 #15
To quote Will Robinson Doc Holliday Jan 2012 #16
oooooh that's juicy! Quantess Jan 2012 #17
This will be great for the gopiscrap Jan 2012 #18
Wow...a huge win for Obama!! n/t Sheepshank Jan 2012 #19
Good grief, I said the exact same thing watching that! freshwest Jan 2012 #20
I love how they nauthiz Jan 2012 #21
and Carter SemperEadem Jan 2012 #25
And Obama. JTFrog Jan 2012 #33
I've come to the conclusion riots in the streets like in the 60s is the only way we have a chance to southernyankeebelle Jan 2012 #22
i usually can't sit through political ads, barbtries Jan 2012 #23
And, with perhaps only minor edits.... Pab Sungenis Jan 2012 #26
BASTARD! JJW Jan 2012 #27
Wow, attack ad in Cinemascope aspect ratio high density Jan 2012 #28
Can someone tell me how we are going to lose in 2012? nt aaaaaa5a Jan 2012 #29
I don't think any of this is going to affect the person running A Simple Game Jan 2012 #47
This is one of those things that might bite them both quakerboy Jan 2012 #32
I absolutely LOVE it when two dishonest weasels savannah43 Jan 2012 #34
Wow - now that is an attack add - no holds barred. TroubleMan Jan 2012 #36
Yes, and isn't America Great after Citizens United? MrMickeysMom Jan 2012 #37
Republican voters have to choose between the ultimate one percenter rocktivity Jan 2012 #40
It is always so weird watching tomg Jan 2012 #44
Problem is who is listening?? weathermanx2005 Jan 2012 #49
I'm speechless. Question: Who is behind "Winning Our Future"? 2banon Jan 2012 #50

Initech

(100,033 posts)
30. Yup, and expect worse as we get closer to the election.
Sat Jan 28, 2012, 09:38 PM
Jan 2012

And this is just the beginning. It's gonna get fucking ugly with whoever the nominee is. This could be the worst election we'll ever see. Thanks, SCOTUS!!

 

Motown_Johnny

(22,308 posts)
7. Maybe not, He should be able to hold on until Super Tuesday
Sat Jan 28, 2012, 06:06 PM
Jan 2012

and even Romney doesn't have the money to blanket all those media outlets





I think Mitt will win too, but you can never tell

snagglepuss

(12,704 posts)
3. HO-LEE SH*T is right. I can't believe a republican group would produce this utterly damning
Sat Jan 28, 2012, 05:56 PM
Jan 2012

and powerful ad, no matter how much they hate Romney. I'm stunned. Hope this goes viral.

SharonAnn

(13,771 posts)
38. Why not, the elected Rick Scott as governor, after $1.2 billion Medicare settlement
Sat Jan 28, 2012, 11:59 PM
Jan 2012

due to his company's Medicare fraud. It was his business model for HCA.

Floridians obviously have a high regard for businessmen who have defrauded Medicare and they consider them highly electable.

snagglepuss

(12,704 posts)
39. Someone else had posted that upthread earlier. How does anyone keep track of all
Sun Jan 29, 2012, 12:11 AM
Jan 2012

this crap? I never realized how unconcerned Floridians were about blatant fraud. It is shocking to read your post.

 

djean111

(14,255 posts)
46. Please don't lump all Floridians into one group....
Sun Jan 29, 2012, 02:44 PM
Jan 2012

I voted for Alex Sink. And, as I recall, the DNC declined to help her out very much.
Besides, as a Floridian, I am never sure exactly if the votes were really counted.

hlthe2b

(102,114 posts)
4. so, then Newt will get Mitt elected FLA Governor?
Sat Jan 28, 2012, 05:59 PM
Jan 2012

"Accusing someone of Medicare fraud, in Florida, is the hardest of hardball politics. " Am I wrong in recalling that your current Governor has been at least accused of similar?

Dragonfli

(10,622 posts)
35. More than just accused as I recall the company he ran was found guilty and paid huge fines
Sat Jan 28, 2012, 10:33 PM
Jan 2012

He got off because as the boss he couldn't have know what was going on or some similar bullshit defense.

This is from memory, but fines were paid and he was guilty as hell but was saved by Florida "Justice".

Hopefully Floridians can fill in the blanks and/or correct anything I have wrong.

Orangepeel

(13,933 posts)
41. He got off because he pled the fifth!
Sun Jan 29, 2012, 01:09 AM
Jan 2012

He had a constitutional right not to self incriminate, but I would have thought before his election that it would have been something a candidate couldn't overcome.

originalpckelly

(24,382 posts)
5. Fucking a.
Sat Jan 28, 2012, 06:00 PM
Jan 2012

It's kind of hilarious watching the republicans kill off their chances of becoming president.

By letting them spend as much money as they want to, they'll have dredged up all the dirt on each other so that Democrats won't even have to worry about it come November.

Nictuku

(3,587 posts)
42. Yes, the biggest medicare fraud case in the history of the us
Sun Jan 29, 2012, 01:11 AM
Jan 2012

..... and they elected him Governor in Floridia. Go figure...

http://articles.sun-sentinel.com/2010-05-20/news/fl-rick-scott-governor-hca-20100520_1_medicare-fraud-case-hospitals-in-el-paso-hospital-giant-columbia
"It was and still is the biggest Medicare fraud case in U.S. history and ended with the hospital giant Columbia/HCA paying a record $1.7 billion in fines, penalties and damages."

JHB

(37,153 posts)
48. That was my thought too: "but they elected the biggest Medicare fraud...
Mon Jan 30, 2012, 05:57 AM
Jan 2012

...as governor!"

But was that front and center during that campaign? I don't know.

NBachers

(17,080 posts)
8. "Forget it, Jake, it's Florida"
Sat Jan 28, 2012, 06:07 PM
Jan 2012

Medicare fraud looks like it worked out pretty well for Jeb Bush and Miguel Recarey in Florida.

"The president's younger brother was also on the payroll in the 80s of the prominent Cuban exile Miguel Recarey, who had earlier assisted the CIA in attempts to assassinate President Castro.

Recarey, who ran International Medical Centers (IMC), employed Jeb Bush as a real estate consultant and paid him a $75,000 fee for finding the company a new location, although the move never took place, which raised questions at the time. Jeb Bush did, however, lobby the Reagan/Bush administration vigorously and successfully on behalf of Recarey and IMC. "I want to be very wealthy," Jeb Bush told the Miami News when questioned during that period.

Recarey was later charged with massive medicare fraud but fled the US before his trial and is now a fugitive."

http://www.informationclearinghouse.info/article3335.htm

or:

"Beginning with John "Jeb" Bush, now governor of Florida, we find that he assisted Miguel Recarey, a fugitive now living in Spain, to steal over $200 million from International Medical Centers, the HMO Recarey owned, by using Jeb's father's influence to acquire a waiver for the HMO of the standard rule of 50-50 (meaning that at least 50% of an HMO's clients cannot be Medicare patients but must be full paying clients). This theft left 150,000 elderly Americans without medical coverage. Oh, and by the way, Recarey had paid Jeb Bush's company a $75,000 "real-estate consultant fee". All totaled, Recarey embezzled over $1 billion in Medicare funds through false billings and outright theft. "

http://www.anotherperspective.org/advoc296.html

morningglory

(2,336 posts)
9. Hell, we elected a Medicare/Medicaid fraud-indicted Governor!
Sat Jan 28, 2012, 06:10 PM
Jan 2012

If he was a fabulous person other than that little smudge, it would almost be forgivable, but geez Louise! [edited to add, I live in Florida]

TahitiNut

(71,611 posts)
10. Maybe Mitt can get elected Governor of Florida.
Sat Jan 28, 2012, 06:23 PM
Jan 2012

Medicare fraud seems to be a 'plus' for that position.


CTyankee

(63,888 posts)
13. well, now, that was sweet!
Sat Jan 28, 2012, 06:42 PM
Jan 2012

I don't think Obama's team could do a better job!

Keep those videos coming, Newt baby! We love it!

SemperEadem

(8,053 posts)
24. no kidding!
Sat Jan 28, 2012, 09:23 PM
Jan 2012

they need to learn a thing or two because this is how it's going down after super tuesday. Obama had better be ready with the Tesla Cannon.

CTyankee

(63,888 posts)
31. Is Newt out of his freakin' mind?
Sat Jan 28, 2012, 09:38 PM
Jan 2012

This is SO tailor made for the Dems attack on Mitt in the General, it's not even funny!

this is SO well done, SO well articulated, that it can be completely copied by the Obama campaign and IT SHOULD BE!

Newt's problem is that he doesn't see it coming. He doesn't get it that he's doing the dirty work for the Dems in the REAL campaign, the one that will matter. He is just into scorched earth. It will bite you and the other repubs in the ass, buddy...count on it...

Martin Eden

(12,843 posts)
43. "He is just into scorched earth."
Sun Jan 29, 2012, 09:42 AM
Jan 2012

Newt Gingrich cares about Newt Gingrich. His own insatiable desire to become president supercedes all other considerations.

rtassi

(629 posts)
45. I think he does get it ... all in prep for 2016
Sun Jan 29, 2012, 11:57 AM
Jan 2012

When all that this campaign has been from that start ... is pick the lessor criminal or whack job!

tabatha

(18,795 posts)
15. How the hell does he have the nerve to run for president?
Sat Jan 28, 2012, 06:45 PM
Jan 2012

Or does he think he can simply lie his way through everything, because he has become so practiced at it.

freshwest

(53,661 posts)
20. Good grief, I said the exact same thing watching that!
Sat Jan 28, 2012, 07:41 PM
Jan 2012

Anyone know how this plays into his healthcare plan in MA?

And this scandal hit just as Hillary was trying to get the corporations out of healthcare and the private sector and Limbo jumped in with the nineties version of the 'death panels'.

Hey, I lived through that era, but not in MA. Anyone here knows about this?

Thanks for bringing this here, FourScore. I'd have never had the stomach to look at GOP attack ad. It was over done with the creepy music and the voice, and probably not totally correct, but it was very telling.

Bet none of the crooks did a day in jail. Like Scott in FL, they keep on flying high.

 

southernyankeebelle

(11,304 posts)
22. I've come to the conclusion riots in the streets like in the 60s is the only way we have a chance to
Sat Jan 28, 2012, 07:47 PM
Jan 2012

clean this mess. All of these politicans come in with honor but when they stay they all become dirty. Protest peacefully. This is disgracefull what is going on in america. We are not being represented at all.

barbtries

(28,764 posts)
23. i usually can't sit through political ads,
Sat Jan 28, 2012, 09:01 PM
Jan 2012

but assuming this is all true, i think it should come in quite handy once romney is the nominee. wow.

 

Pab Sungenis

(9,612 posts)
26. And, with perhaps only minor edits....
Sat Jan 28, 2012, 09:27 PM
Jan 2012

Democratic Superpacs can run it all through the general election.

Brilliant. Thanks, Newt.

high density

(13,397 posts)
28. Wow, attack ad in Cinemascope aspect ratio
Sat Jan 28, 2012, 09:35 PM
Jan 2012

Are they going to play this instead of Coke ads and trailers at the beginning of movies?

A Simple Game

(9,214 posts)
47. I don't think any of this is going to affect the person running
Sun Jan 29, 2012, 03:47 PM
Jan 2012

as the Republican nominee in November.

quakerboy

(13,915 posts)
32. This is one of those things that might bite them both
Sat Jan 28, 2012, 09:44 PM
Jan 2012

No matter who walks away with the R nomination, its going to be someone who has defrauded/cheated/bilked the Us government. Granted, of the current options Romney may have walked away with the most, but he ain't the only one. And the more people have it shoved in their face that this is what republicans do, the better for the nation.

TroubleMan

(4,859 posts)
36. Wow - now that is an attack add - no holds barred.
Sat Jan 28, 2012, 11:36 PM
Jan 2012

There's not going to be anything left of Newt or Romney by the time they reach the convention. They're tearing each other to shreds.

rocktivity

(44,571 posts)
40. Republican voters have to choose between the ultimate one percenter
Sun Jan 29, 2012, 01:00 AM
Jan 2012

and someone whose lack of ethics surpassed even Republican standards!


rocktivity

tomg

(2,574 posts)
44. It is always so weird watching
Sun Jan 29, 2012, 10:39 AM
Jan 2012

Republicans doing to Republicans during the primary what Democrats should be doing to them all of the time ( and with few exceptions never do even during elections). More deeply than this, it completely contradicts the Republican's central belief - that is, the problem is government and the solution is less regulation and privatization. This add - even more than an attack on Romney - eviscerates that central belief.

 

weathermanx2005

(14 posts)
49. Problem is who is listening??
Mon Jan 30, 2012, 08:28 PM
Jan 2012

I saw this video TWO days ago and I haven't heard it yet ONCE on ANY TV news show, nothing about it on Meet the Press or other Sunday talk shows...and I haven't even seen it mentioned on the Huffington Post or Think Progress...hmmmm

And we wonder why an unfortunately large number of Americans are not educated on these corrupt politicians???

 

2banon

(7,321 posts)
50. I'm speechless. Question: Who is behind "Winning Our Future"?
Mon Jan 30, 2012, 11:47 PM
Jan 2012

That's a quote from Obama a few months back. Was it a floating meme in the politicalsphere at the time? or is it actually something the GOP is latching on to?

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