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edhopper

(33,570 posts)
Sun Jan 29, 2012, 01:53 PM Jan 2012

Biggest lie about Gingrich now being spread.

Heard this from three different RW talking heads.

That his leadership helped balance the budget in the 90s.
No The budget was balanced by Bill Clinton and the Democrats in 1994, before Gingrich and the Repukes took the House, without one, single Repub vote. Gingrich did nothing!

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Biggest lie about Gingrich now being spread. (Original Post) edhopper Jan 2012 OP
Agreed surfdog Jan 2012 #1
As far as his Contract with America BS. edhopper Jan 2012 #2
I love that there are a whole lot of congress people who signed that pledge WCGreen Jan 2012 #24
And Joe Scarborough takes credit for it at least once a week on MJ and NO ONE on his CTyankee Jan 2012 #26
I think another biggest lie is that he is a member of the human race. pennylane100 Jan 2012 #3
that was my first thought, as well niyad Jan 2012 #19
Gingrinch also broke up the USSR and the Berlin wall, and invented Silly Putty. HopeHoops Jan 2012 #4
You heard that wrong edhopper Jan 2012 #5
I always assumed it was named for Reagan because it was the most disfunctional one. HopeHoops Jan 2012 #6
Good one edhopper Jan 2012 #8
Levi jeans had more to do with the demise of the USSR than Reagan did. HopeHoops Jan 2012 #12
And that is the fantasy world that Gingrich and the edhopper Jan 2012 #14
I think it was Afghanistan. GeorgeGist Jan 2012 #27
The war undermined the government. Western culture undermined the heavy hand. HopeHoops Jan 2012 #28
When Newt and the Repubs took over in 1995... kentuck Jan 2012 #7
Factcheck.org disagrees with you. former9thward Jan 2012 #9
No, it doesn't. Moosepoop Jan 2012 #10
I don't think you know what the word "deficit" means. former9thward Jan 2012 #11
Moosepoop is correct.. (love that username!) DCBob Jan 2012 #13
No you are not reading the graph properly. former9thward Jan 2012 #15
I stand corrected. The text in the article says "total deficit" so its a bit misleading. DCBob Jan 2012 #17
This message was self-deleted by its author Moosepoop Jan 2012 #20
Gingrich had nothing to do with that bhikkhu Jan 2012 #16
And let's see if anyonein the MSM edhopper Jan 2012 #18
"So Newt raised taxes?" is the natural riposte JHB Jan 2012 #21
Yep. kentuck Jan 2012 #22
Why is this what everyone thinks? Do you have a resource? The Wielding Truth Jan 2012 #23
Teabaggers like to suck. GeorgeGist Jan 2012 #25
 

surfdog

(624 posts)
1. Agreed
Sun Jan 29, 2012, 01:59 PM
Jan 2012

The nation was moving that way , Gingrich just jumped on moving train , and took credit for the whole trip

edhopper

(33,570 posts)
2. As far as his Contract with America BS.
Sun Jan 29, 2012, 02:05 PM
Jan 2012

If you look at the 94 election you can put most of the Repuke gains into redistricting in places like Texas thanks to Repuke legislatures. And remember the Rebukes all, to a man, opposed the Balanced Budget Act of 94 because it raised taxes for the wealthy. The budget was balanced in spit of Newt, not because of anything he did.

WCGreen

(45,558 posts)
24. I love that there are a whole lot of congress people who signed that pledge
Sun Jan 29, 2012, 09:15 PM
Jan 2012

to quit after five terms that are still serving...

But of course the Dem's didn't make that an issue...

CTyankee

(63,903 posts)
26. And Joe Scarborough takes credit for it at least once a week on MJ and NO ONE on his
Mon Jan 30, 2012, 10:20 AM
Jan 2012

show calls bullshit on him!

I don't understand that!

 

HopeHoops

(47,675 posts)
4. Gingrinch also broke up the USSR and the Berlin wall, and invented Silly Putty.
Sun Jan 29, 2012, 02:43 PM
Jan 2012

If FOX starts claiming those three things, the idiots who watch it will believe them.

edhopper

(33,570 posts)
5. You heard that wrong
Sun Jan 29, 2012, 02:47 PM
Jan 2012

He is a big as the Berlin Wall and made of Silly Putty.
If you want a laugh, read his statements about why DC National was renamed for Ronnie Raygun. It defies logic.

 

HopeHoops

(47,675 posts)
6. I always assumed it was named for Reagan because it was the most disfunctional one.
Sun Jan 29, 2012, 02:55 PM
Jan 2012

I've since decided that Newark, NJ is more disfunctional so it is a prime candidate to be named after the shrub.

edhopper

(33,570 posts)
8. Good one
Sun Jan 29, 2012, 03:07 PM
Jan 2012

He said, since Raygun single handedly defeated the Soviets, he made flying safer fore the free world and deserves the Airport in his name. I kid you not.

 

HopeHoops

(47,675 posts)
12. Levi jeans had more to do with the demise of the USSR than Reagan did.
Sun Jan 29, 2012, 03:56 PM
Jan 2012

That's not a joke, either. They couldn't keep the rest of the world out of the closet culture they wanted - and that will be the demise of N. Korea too.

edhopper

(33,570 posts)
14. And that is the fantasy world that Gingrich and the
Sun Jan 29, 2012, 04:05 PM
Jan 2012

Repukes live in. Unfortunately the entire MSM has bought into is and beautified Saint Ronnie.

kentuck

(111,079 posts)
7. When Newt and the Repubs took over in 1995...
Sun Jan 29, 2012, 03:07 PM
Jan 2012

Bill Clinton and the Democrats had already cut the deficit by about 40% without a single Republican vote.

Moosepoop

(1,920 posts)
10. No, it doesn't.
Sun Jan 29, 2012, 03:40 PM
Jan 2012

You may be confusing "federal budget" with "federal deficit."

The federal budget was, indeed, balanced beginning in 1994 and continuing through 2001.

In addition, the federal deficit was erased from 1998-2002 (arguably, as the alternative accrual method of accounting would have the deficit erased for only three of those years).

Check the info at your link again, it's all plainly spelled out and reflected in the graph there.


former9thward

(31,981 posts)
11. I don't think you know what the word "deficit" means.
Sun Jan 29, 2012, 03:53 PM
Jan 2012

The only years where there was a deficit reduction were 98-02. Other years the deficit increased. Bu definition it can only increase when the budget is not balanced. A balanced budget and an increase in the deficit can not happen at the same time.

DCBob

(24,689 posts)
13. Moosepoop is correct.. (love that username!)
Sun Jan 29, 2012, 04:00 PM
Jan 2012

The graph shows total accumulated federal deficit... it began to decrease in 93-94 due to a surplus in the budget.

former9thward

(31,981 posts)
15. No you are not reading the graph properly.
Sun Jan 29, 2012, 04:07 PM
Jan 2012

The graph is not total accumulated federal deficit at all. It is a graph by year showing whether we had a deficit that year or a surplus. A surplus means the budget was balanced. There was no surplus in 93-94. During those years the budget began to decrease the amount by which it was out of balance.

Since you refuse to believe factcheck how about Time? "The balanced-budget acts of 1990 and 1997 helped reverse this unprecedented level of peacetime spending, and in 1998 the U.S. recorded its first budget surplus in nearly 20 years."

Read more: http://www.time.com/time/magazine/article/0,9171,1919169,00.html#ixzz1kscRkfcE

DCBob

(24,689 posts)
17. I stand corrected. The text in the article says "total deficit" so its a bit misleading.
Sun Jan 29, 2012, 04:16 PM
Jan 2012

But yes I believe you are correct. Thanks for the clarification.

Response to former9thward (Reply #11)

bhikkhu

(10,715 posts)
16. Gingrich had nothing to do with that
Sun Jan 29, 2012, 04:15 PM
Jan 2012

...he was booted out by his own party (ok, he resigned to deny them the honor) before the budget balancing took place. And in any case, the repugs were solidly against most of the measures Clinton advocated, which led to an actual balanced budget.

Anyone who was paying attention at the time recalls it as a tooth-and-nail fight over every little line in the budget, with Clinton on the side of restraint and the repugs on the side of spending. They like to pose otherwise, but they've always been the real spending problem. And Newt had nothing to do with it, one way or another.

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