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eridani

(51,907 posts)
Sat Mar 2, 2013, 07:13 AM Mar 2013

40 years in solitary confinement? What in fucking HELL have we become?

http://www.nationofchange.org/albert-woodfox-s-40-years-solitary-confinement-1362147066

Albert Woodfox has been in solitary confinement for 40 years, most of that time locked up in the notorious maximum-security Louisiana State Penitentiary known as “Angola.” This week, after his lawyers spent six years arguing that racial bias tainted the grand-jury selection in Woodfox’s prosecution, federal Judge James Brady, presiding in the U.S. District Court for the Middle District of Louisiana, agreed. “Accordingly, Woodfox’s habeas relief is GRANTED,” ordered Brady, compelling the state of Louisiana to release Woodfox. This is the third time his conviction has been overturned. Nevertheless, Woodfox remains imprisoned. Those close to the case expect the state of Louisiana, under the direction of Attorney General James “Buddy” Caldwell, to appeal again, as the state has successfully done in the past, seeking to keep Woodfox in solitary confinement, in conditions that Amnesty International says “can only be described as cruel, inhuman and degrading.”

Woodfox is one of the “Angola 3.” Angola, the sprawling prison complex with 5,000 inmates and 1,800 employees, is in rural Louisiana on the site of a former slave plantation. It gets its name from the country of origin of many of those slaves. It still exists as a forced-labor camp, with prisoners toiling in fields of cotton and sugar cane, watched over by shotgun-wielding guards on horseback. Woodfox and fellow inmate Herman Wallace were in Angola for lesser crimes when implicated in the prison murder of a guard in 1972. Woodfox and Wallace founded the Angola chapter of the Black Panther Party in 1971, and were engaged in organizing against segregation, inhumane working conditions and the systemic rape and sexual slavery inflicted on many imprisoned in Louisiana’s Angola.
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40 years in solitary confinement? What in fucking HELL have we become? (Original Post) eridani Mar 2013 OP
Absolutely shameful! n/t markpkessinger Mar 2013 #1
Isn't this cruel and unusual? And war criminals George Bush and Dick Cheney walk free, sickening. nt Mnemosyne Mar 2013 #2
"Things have changed in the South . . ." another_liberal Mar 2013 #3
another liberal, Justice Roberts holds the hammer. saidsimplesimon Mar 2013 #25
He has . . . another_liberal Mar 2013 #30
I'd enjoy placing a large number of "too big to fail" types there, "toiling in fields of cotton..." WinkyDink Mar 2013 #4
slavery never stopped in the south, it even got worse. Sunlei Mar 2013 #5
K&R for thread Jumpin Jack Fletch Mar 2013 #6
Two middle finger..one from either hand Buffalo Bull Mar 2013 #20
My god! What a shameful situation. Earth_First Mar 2013 #7
yes, it's terrible... but this notion that we have "become bad" really needs to be stopped NoMoreWarNow Mar 2013 #8
I never want to hear the term "post-racial" again. annabanana Mar 2013 #9
Worse now Guizar Mar 2013 #10
No. Fifty years ago we murdered black people for using the wrong water fountain Demo_Chris Mar 2013 #22
Having a Black president doesn't mean as much as you think it does. cui bono Mar 2013 #23
I did not say that racism was over (cont) Demo_Chris Mar 2013 #24
The population has almost doubled in fifty years. defacto7 Mar 2013 #40
We are a Nation that has inhuman policies and laws that vastly favor the wealthy. We have ladjf Mar 2013 #11
Definitely ... a country bringing on its own demise all by itself. This country is RKP5637 Mar 2013 #14
I would like to point out that the U.S. also has many policies. The problem is that the good ladjf Mar 2013 #15
This country points its finger at other countries ... some pointing needs to be done at the US and RKP5637 Mar 2013 #12
When you point your finger at someone... awoke_in_2003 Mar 2013 #32
Yep, quite true! n/t RKP5637 Mar 2013 #35
For a nation founded on genocide, slavery, and aparthied, we've come a long way... mountain grammy Mar 2013 #13
Well stated Tumbulu Mar 2013 #28
His confinement Niceguy1 Mar 2013 #16
Was just wondering the same thing on another thread. lonestarnot Mar 2013 #17
K&R Solly Mack Mar 2013 #18
Bobby Jindle libodem Mar 2013 #19
So he killed a prison guard...? tritsofme Mar 2013 #21
It is for now. Niceguy1 Mar 2013 #29
I think Nat'l Geographic had a special on Angola - NO ONE walks out, ever. Hestia Mar 2013 #26
In this country it's easier to go to prison than to get a job that pays well. Initech Mar 2013 #27
The USA is going out in a blanket of shame. 99Forever Mar 2013 #31
though we cannot ignore the truth hopemountain Mar 2013 #33
May he never dream of Angola again, in all his days... DreamGypsy Mar 2013 #34
Amy Goodman is on the case upi402 Mar 2013 #36
k&r limpyhobbler Mar 2013 #37
Jim Crow is dead in the South blues lover Mar 2013 #38
what could they do Milliesmom Mar 2013 #39
 

another_liberal

(8,821 posts)
3. "Things have changed in the South . . ."
Sat Mar 2, 2013, 09:00 AM
Mar 2013

Justice Roberts is clearly right, "Things have changed in the South."

saidsimplesimon

(7,888 posts)
25. another liberal, Justice Roberts holds the hammer.
Sat Mar 2, 2013, 04:35 PM
Mar 2013

He may (big emphasis on may) surprise US with a vote that confirms there is a color bias. It's true in all states. Congress needs to get off their taxpayer funded recesses.

 

another_liberal

(8,821 posts)
30. He has . . .
Sat Mar 2, 2013, 06:39 PM
Mar 2013

He has surprised us before (Affordable Health Care Act, for example) and I sincerely hope he does so again.

There is racism everywhere, yes, but then there are places like Alabama! The deep South is different, that is undeniable.

 

WinkyDink

(51,311 posts)
4. I'd enjoy placing a large number of "too big to fail" types there, "toiling in fields of cotton..."
Sat Mar 2, 2013, 09:00 AM
Mar 2013

Earth_First

(14,910 posts)
7. My god! What a shameful situation.
Sat Mar 2, 2013, 09:18 AM
Mar 2013

Also, finding out where Angola got it's name made me sick to my stomach; I never knew that.

 

NoMoreWarNow

(1,259 posts)
8. yes, it's terrible... but this notion that we have "become bad" really needs to be stopped
Sat Mar 2, 2013, 09:21 AM
Mar 2013

we've always had incredible evil in this country.

Guizar

(4 posts)
10. Worse now
Sat Mar 2, 2013, 09:35 AM
Mar 2013

In some areas of the US racism is worse than it was 50 years ago. We have now institutionalized the racist beliefs of America in our society through our schools, voting districts and of course the worlds largest prison population.

 

Demo_Chris

(6,234 posts)
22. No. Fifty years ago we murdered black people for using the wrong water fountain
Sat Mar 2, 2013, 03:28 PM
Mar 2013

Today we have a black President.

cui bono

(19,926 posts)
23. Having a Black president doesn't mean as much as you think it does.
Sat Mar 2, 2013, 03:58 PM
Mar 2013

Black people still get murdered much in the same way, and now it's often by cops for no reason at all except just for being black. Black mothers were afraid to let their sons go to school while the hunt for Dornan was on. What about Treyvon Martin? Countless others? The education system is worse in black neighborhoods, the "justice" system has failed blacks, just look at the prison population. Seriously, all of that isn't even just the south. I'd hate to see and hear what goes on down there.

Racism is alive and well. Don't let one man's triumph blind you to that. In fact, you could say that racism is partly responsible for Obama being president. Latinos and blacks voted overwhelmingly for him and a lot of that was due to the fact that the Republican party is for the most part racist.



 

Demo_Chris

(6,234 posts)
24. I did not say that racism was over (cont)
Sat Mar 2, 2013, 04:12 PM
Mar 2013

I said that things were better than they were 50 years ago. That's reality. If you do not believe this then I don't know what to tell you.

We still have a long way to go, but I think things are rapidly improving, and by the time today's young people grow old I suspect that racism will be limited to a tiny minority of crackpots. I hope so anyway.

But to suggest that things are as bad today as they were fifty years ago is absurd.

defacto7

(13,485 posts)
40. The population has almost doubled in fifty years.
Sun Mar 3, 2013, 03:33 AM
Mar 2013

Whether it is worse or better, there are twice as many bad people and twice as many good people, twice as many bad stories and twice as many good ones. It's hard to know if things are better or worse when the number of racists as well as the tolerant have increased.

ladjf

(17,320 posts)
11. We are a Nation that has inhuman policies and laws that vastly favor the wealthy. We have
Sat Mar 2, 2013, 10:14 AM
Mar 2013

become a Nation that is depriving our children of a good education, choosing rather to indoctrinate them in the superstitious ways of religious dogma.

RKP5637

(67,101 posts)
14. Definitely ... a country bringing on its own demise all by itself. This country is
Sat Mar 2, 2013, 10:21 AM
Mar 2013

afraid of terrorists ... the charade that makes lots of $$$$$ for those on the take with their instruments of surveillance and war. The country should be more afraid of itself and its future ... the shit that goes on within its own borders.

ladjf

(17,320 posts)
15. I would like to point out that the U.S. also has many policies. The problem is that the good
Sat Mar 2, 2013, 10:24 AM
Mar 2013

things seem to be fading while the bad increases.

RKP5637

(67,101 posts)
12. This country points its finger at other countries ... some pointing needs to be done at the US and
Sat Mar 2, 2013, 10:17 AM
Mar 2013

the atrocities that go on here out of sight, out of mind ... while politicians squabble with their puff and fluff strutting around as well paid peacocks at our expense.

mountain grammy

(26,608 posts)
13. For a nation founded on genocide, slavery, and aparthied, we've come a long way...
Sat Mar 2, 2013, 10:19 AM
Mar 2013

But have we still have a very long way to go. Look what it took for Germany to become a socialistic, civilized state, the strongest in Europe. So, with our help and the Marshall Plan, Germany did win the war.
We better get a Marshall Plan of our own or the Confederacy will rise again to win that war. The five corrupt rulers on the Supreme Court make me think they already have.

Niceguy1

(2,467 posts)
16. His confinement
Sat Mar 2, 2013, 10:50 AM
Mar 2013

Has more to do with the fact that he was convicted of killing a correctional officer.... Whether his conviction was just is a totally different matter. I do wish him success if he is truly innocent of the murder.

libodem

(19,288 posts)
19. Bobby Jindle
Sat Mar 2, 2013, 02:27 PM
Mar 2013

Must be so proud. This is how he plans to manage our country when he and big Christie, run.

tritsofme

(17,372 posts)
21. So he killed a prison guard...?
Sat Mar 2, 2013, 03:05 PM
Mar 2013

I've always thought life-time solitary confinement to be preferable to capital punishment.

Niceguy1

(2,467 posts)
29. It is for now.
Sat Mar 2, 2013, 06:22 PM
Mar 2013

When CP is gone they will start fighting against the SHU... You do know that everybody in prison is innocent, right?

 

Hestia

(3,818 posts)
26. I think Nat'l Geographic had a special on Angola - NO ONE walks out, ever.
Sat Mar 2, 2013, 05:47 PM
Mar 2013

That is their goal - once in, always in. That is why they are fighting so hard to keep him in, rather than seeing him go free.

Horrible, horrible situation.

hopemountain

(3,919 posts)
33. though we cannot ignore the truth
Sat Mar 2, 2013, 08:16 PM
Mar 2013

that the stench of racism continues - we must rise above and take a stand for what we do believe and hold dear and cherish - for our own sanity and the future of our loved ones. certainly, the price has been paid!! over and over again, people have fought and it cannot be eradicated. there is nothing left to do but move forward with our heads up and with integrity.

why do you think the president refuses to address the issue?

i just watched the documentary which i will not name here because i do not believe in perpetuating the hate and smoke and mirrors of hate. there is no changing this type of hatred which is so sinister and embedded in the psyches and culture of the south and elsewhere - wherever one kind of human considers themselves dominant over others - it is a cancer.

there are several important icons in the film - henry belafonte, morgan freeman, etc., but, at the end of the film the beautiful voice of an up coming young woman from mississippi sings her original song, "stand". she is on you tube and her name is teneia sanders. let my voice join her voice.

DreamGypsy

(2,252 posts)
34. May he never dream of Angola again, in all his days...
Sat Mar 2, 2013, 08:23 PM
Mar 2013

Here's another true story about justice and Angola: Hayes Williams.


Hayes Williams speaks to reporters in front of the Federal Court House
in New Orleans, LA May 15, 1997, after his release from from prison having
served 30 years at the Louisiana State Penitentary at Angola
for a murder he did not commit.


In the end, I found it best to just listen. He was one of the most articulate men I had ever met, and put a face on his experience with a passion and directness I will never forget. "Take the most depressing moment of your entire life," he once told a journalism class at Tulane University, "and that's how you feel every minute, every hour, every day for 24 hours a day, 365 days a year when you're locked up."

It would be a mistake, however, to believe that Hayes Williams' life was wasted. Because from the belly of the beast he made an indelible mark on Louisiana history. Using what limited resources he had available to him, he and a handful of other inmates almost singlehandedly took on the brutal system that enslaved them. In 1975, a federal judge, shocked by appalling conditions at Angola — due in large part to their lawsuits — placed it under federal control. It was returned to the state only last year. But Williams' courage and determination made him a marked man, and he remained at Angola for another 10 years, long after his co-defendants, originally convicted and sentenced to death, had been freed.



Casey Neill wrote a song about Hayes' life.

blues lover

(13 posts)
38. Jim Crow is dead in the South
Sun Mar 3, 2013, 02:05 AM
Mar 2013

However his grandson , James T. Crow esq. has graduated from Bob Jones University and has a Law degree from Regents college. He works for a think tank funded by supporters of the South that existed before the 'War of Northern Aggression' and continues to try to return us to the early 1800's when 'certain' people 'knew their place'.

"Trust us with your rights", they say. Meanwhile they do everything they can to return the larger portion of society to a condition akin to that of serfdom...or worse.

 

Milliesmom

(493 posts)
39. what could they do
Sun Mar 3, 2013, 02:43 AM
Mar 2013

If President Obama pardoned wouldn't they have to set him free, we need to start a petition to President Obama on the website and see what happens. This is inhumane treatment, no telling what horrors he has suffered at their hands.

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