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DU ONLY, what did your reacts about president Hugo Chavez died? (Original Post) nmbluesky Mar 2013 OP
This message was self-deleted by its author Catherina Mar 2013 #1
This message was self-deleted by its author Common Sense Party Mar 2013 #2
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This message was self-deleted by its author cbayer Mar 2013 #43
Something about an oil strike and shooting. Hassin Bin Sober Mar 2013 #6
I took a semester of stupid once. Common Sense Party Mar 2013 #7
..... A HERETIC I AM Mar 2013 #20
Did you take it at Jerry Fallwell University? They are so good at stupid. southernyankeebelle Mar 2013 #31
Perfect response malaise Mar 2013 #15
Wow, that's rude. This is a wonderful DU member who's first language is not cbayer Mar 2013 #44
+ a brazillion elehhhhna Mar 2013 #46
The grammar and syntax were only minor. Common Sense Party Mar 2013 #57
You mocked his english and called him stupid. You did not challenge his facts. cbayer Mar 2013 #60
+1000! Rhiannon12866 Mar 2013 #58
Well, there's an egregious and insulting post. MineralMan Mar 2013 #63
wether the CIA did him in. you know like they tried with Castro boomer55 Mar 2013 #3
I was sad the first couple of times he died, but now i'm just meh. nt Xipe Totec Mar 2013 #4
I was shocked. I worry for the Venezuelan people Whisp Mar 2013 #8
Me too. A country with oil is always alsame Mar 2013 #18
All kidding aside I was thinking about the people. They are the ones who will be screwed. southernyankeebelle Mar 2013 #32
exactly. Carolina Mar 2013 #65
My reaction? Marrah_G Mar 2013 #9
I remember his kindness to many New Englanders a few years back who could not afford heating oil. monmouth3 Mar 2013 #10
He's been ery kind to all his neighbours malaise Mar 2013 #16
+1 Little Star Mar 2013 #52
This message was self-deleted by its author devilgrrl Mar 2013 #11
+1,000 malaise Mar 2013 #17
Seriously? I am too... fadedrose Mar 2013 #24
The majority of calls, texts and FB messages on our radio stations malaise Mar 2013 #29
That alone raises his star in my book...n/t monmouth3 Mar 2013 #37
Rest in peace, Hugo fadedrose Mar 2013 #25
+ Whisp Mar 2013 #26
Remembering Cheney's foaming outrage madamesilverspurs Mar 2013 #12
Yes, because the CIA are SOOOOO effective these days, right? Common Sense Party Mar 2013 #13
Who said anything about CIA? madamesilverspurs Mar 2013 #14
From respect for my LOVED DUers who are idealistic about him, I have stayed out of their threads UTUSN Mar 2013 #19
Co sider me with a deferent opinion...Chavez was a hero for the POOR angstlessk Mar 2013 #22
Neither one of us needs each other's (or anybody's) permission to have our own opinion. n/t UTUSN Mar 2013 #23
"calling fellow DUers names for daring to have a differing opinion" rdharma Mar 2013 #40
Oil workers belonged to the oligarchy...AND HE DID NOT SHOOT THEM! angstlessk Mar 2013 #21
What? LiberalFighter Mar 2013 #27
I am worried about the inevitable onslaught of the oiligarchs.. annabanana Mar 2013 #28
I remember when he kept Americans in New England warm freckleface Mar 2013 #30
The CIA and MIC are weeping at the loss of a bogeyman they can claim is a threat. Tierra_y_Libertad Mar 2013 #33
'DU ONLY'? Who else do you think is going to reply to you here? muriel_volestrangler Mar 2013 #34
Well...alll the resteses of the internetsesz, of course! n/t A HERETIC I AM Mar 2013 #53
I'm thankful that I had the relative luxury of not having to fully support him Tom Rinaldo Mar 2013 #35
So, you "remember" hearing that Chavez ordered shootings of oil workers in 2004? ......... rdharma Mar 2013 #36
And he didn't remember Condi et al announcing that he had been deposed malaise Mar 2013 #38
Mixed, but I do think he became a tyrant Yo_Mama Mar 2013 #39
"glorifying a man who was involved in a lot of things that we decry in our own country" rdharma Mar 2013 #41
It is not rightist to believe in freedom of the press Yo_Mama Mar 2013 #42
Examples? rdharma Mar 2013 #48
I have mixed feelings because his legacy is so mixed. cbayer Mar 2013 #45
"ignore those that are rude to you" rdharma Mar 2013 #49
That's a whole different issue. cbayer Mar 2013 #50
"comment was not directed at you or your response" rdharma Mar 2013 #54
"We all got it comin'" is my reaction to his death. As for what he has accomplished, Egalitarian Thug Mar 2013 #47
sad heather blossom Mar 2013 #51
i am always happy when tyrants meet their demise scheming daemons Mar 2013 #55
then your happiness is displaced Carolina Mar 2013 #66
Been expecting this for four days nadinbrzezinski Mar 2013 #56
Meh. sakabatou Mar 2013 #59
No opinion, I'm sure he left behind family that loved him very much Puzzledtraveller Mar 2013 #61
A mí no me interesa. MineralMan Mar 2013 #62
My opinion is he is irrelevant Fearless Mar 2013 #64
"Shit - are they going to talk about this ALL DAY?" Then I switched stations a bunch. nt jmg257 Mar 2013 #67

Response to nmbluesky (Original post)

Response to nmbluesky (Original post)

Response to Common Sense Party (Reply #2)

Response to Journeyman (Reply #5)

cbayer

(146,218 posts)
44. Wow, that's rude. This is a wonderful DU member who's first language is not
Tue Mar 5, 2013, 08:52 PM
Mar 2013

spoken English.

IMO, he does a fantastic job of expressing himself and those that mock him can't hold a candle to him.

Common Sense Party

(14,139 posts)
57. The grammar and syntax were only minor.
Wed Mar 6, 2013, 12:38 AM
Mar 2013

His first thought about Chavez was he ordered the shootings of oil workers?

Hold a candle to THAT.

cbayer

(146,218 posts)
60. You mocked his english and called him stupid. You did not challenge his facts.
Wed Mar 6, 2013, 01:21 PM
Mar 2013

Great liberal values you've got there. I'm impressed.

MineralMan

(146,287 posts)
63. Well, there's an egregious and insulting post.
Wed Mar 6, 2013, 01:30 PM
Mar 2013

The OP does not have English as a primary language. It's apparent from your response that your skills in Spanish are about equivalent.

 

Whisp

(24,096 posts)
8. I was shocked. I worry for the Venezuelan people
Tue Mar 5, 2013, 07:02 PM
Mar 2013

and what foreign claws are now scraping to install someone very unlike Mr. Chavez. A dictator.

 

southernyankeebelle

(11,304 posts)
32. All kidding aside I was thinking about the people. They are the ones who will be screwed.
Tue Mar 5, 2013, 07:51 PM
Mar 2013

America is already putting their hands in the pot.

Carolina

(6,960 posts)
65. exactly.
Wed Mar 6, 2013, 01:41 PM
Mar 2013

He stood up to the installed POTUS whom he rightly called the devil and won! He could not be stopped or killed by the US and its corporate masters. I still wonder if his death is really natural, really due to cancer...

Marrah_G

(28,581 posts)
9. My reaction?
Tue Mar 5, 2013, 07:03 PM
Mar 2013

May he rest in peace and may the people of Venezuela have a smooth transition to the next administration.

monmouth3

(3,871 posts)
10. I remember his kindness to many New Englanders a few years back who could not afford heating oil.
Tue Mar 5, 2013, 07:04 PM
Mar 2013

He sent it. I never did forget that act...

malaise

(268,949 posts)
16. He's been ery kind to all his neighbours
Tue Mar 5, 2013, 07:16 PM
Mar 2013

Fighting the elite in this hemisphere is no easy task - only they are allowed to shoot and kill 'enemies' of the state (as defined by them).

Response to nmbluesky (Original post)

fadedrose

(10,044 posts)
24. Seriously? I am too...
Tue Mar 5, 2013, 07:38 PM
Mar 2013

The money people in the US started crap about him because he spent so much on the people there...and even sent oil to families here too poor to buy heating oil...plus they wanted to show him the oil busines and "help" him run it.

malaise

(268,949 posts)
29. The majority of calls, texts and FB messages on our radio stations
Tue Mar 5, 2013, 07:42 PM
Mar 2013

are calling him a friend of Jamaica and that he was. I haven't heard one negative call yet. I love leaders who can stand up to bullies.
By the way it was Chavez who destroyed Allan Stanford.

fadedrose

(10,044 posts)
25. Rest in peace, Hugo
Tue Mar 5, 2013, 07:40 PM
Mar 2013

You did your best for your people, and your critics are well described by devilgrrl...

Who is his successor, if you know?

madamesilverspurs

(15,800 posts)
12. Remembering Cheney's foaming outrage
Tue Mar 5, 2013, 07:09 PM
Mar 2013

when the Bushite-backed coup against Chavez was overthrown by the people of Venezuela...

I confess to wondering since then if Chavez' cancer wasn't 'assisted' by the same operatives. I hate thinking it, but there it is.

Common Sense Party

(14,139 posts)
13. Yes, because the CIA are SOOOOO effective these days, right?
Tue Mar 5, 2013, 07:12 PM
Mar 2013

They couldn't find their navels with a flashlight, and you think that they injected Hugo with terminal cancer somehow.

UTUSN

(70,684 posts)
19. From respect for my LOVED DUers who are idealistic about him, I have stayed out of their threads
Tue Mar 5, 2013, 07:23 PM
Mar 2013

But this O.P. is critical at the minimum, so I will say in this space: I detest blowhard bully tyrants from the Left equally as from the Wingnut side. When CHEENEE croaks (although his government insurance will keep him in batteries for centuries), I’ll be gravedancing about this same amount.

As the joke goes, every morning this dude would buy a newspaper from the corner stand and glance at the headline and dump the whole paper back on the stand. The seller eventually asked him why he did this. The reply was, “I’m looking for an obituary.” The seller said, “But, sir, the obituaries are in an inner section.” The dude said, “When the S.O.B. I’m looking for dies, it will be on the front page!”


That said, calling fellow DUers names for daring to have a differing opinion as has been done in this thread is not a democratic value.

 

rdharma

(6,057 posts)
40. "calling fellow DUers names for daring to have a differing opinion"
Tue Mar 5, 2013, 08:32 PM
Mar 2013

No name calling here, friend. But what the OP posted as "fact" is crazy rightie nutter lies and propaganda.

Chavez never ordered the protesting oil workers "to be shot"!

Did the OP post this misinformation intentionally on the announcement of Chavez' passing? I don't know.

But if that's the case,.........it's in very poor taste and the OP might feel more at home over on the freeper site.

annabanana

(52,791 posts)
28. I am worried about the inevitable onslaught of the oiligarchs..
Tue Mar 5, 2013, 07:42 PM
Mar 2013

They WILL descend with their privatization and neoliberalism..

freckleface

(57 posts)
30. I remember when he kept Americans in New England warm
Tue Mar 5, 2013, 07:49 PM
Mar 2013

In the winter while we were freezing them out, so to speak. He also had compassion for the poor of his country. A pundit stated earlier that "it would be better for the US if the right winger won the upcoming election. That's us...right-wingers over the people's choice. If they don't vote them in...we'll just install 'em!

Tom Rinaldo

(22,912 posts)
35. I'm thankful that I had the relative luxury of not having to fully support him
Tue Mar 5, 2013, 08:05 PM
Mar 2013

If I were a poor man in his nation I would have fully supported him regardless of some real misgivings about him.

 

rdharma

(6,057 posts)
36. So, you "remember" hearing that Chavez ordered shootings of oil workers in 2004? .........
Tue Mar 5, 2013, 08:07 PM
Mar 2013

Funny thing....... IT NEVER HAPPENED!

I'm just wondering what your "sources" are for your "memories"!

malaise

(268,949 posts)
38. And he didn't remember Condi et al announcing that he had been deposed
Tue Mar 5, 2013, 08:09 PM
Mar 2013

but the coup had been overturned by fellow soldiers.

Yo_Mama

(8,303 posts)
39. Mixed, but I do think he became a tyrant
Tue Mar 5, 2013, 08:28 PM
Mar 2013

No human being deserves cancer. I think once he had great ideals and then power and the frustration of the real world went to his head. So sorrow that his ideals became perverted, sorrow for his fate, and relief in a way that perhaps now Venezuela's future can improve?

http://www.amnesty.org/en/region/venezuela
http://www.hrw.org/americas/venezuela

I am kind of amazed that some on DU are so unambiguously glorifying a man who was involved in a lot of things that we decry in our own country.

 

rdharma

(6,057 posts)
41. "glorifying a man who was involved in a lot of things that we decry in our own country"
Tue Mar 5, 2013, 08:43 PM
Mar 2013

You bought into the rightie propaganda!

Yo_Mama

(8,303 posts)
42. It is not rightist to believe in freedom of the press
Tue Mar 5, 2013, 08:48 PM
Mar 2013

due process, etc.

The links I provided are because I knew I'd get responses such as yours. Argue with Human Rights Watch and Amnesty International, not me.

 

rdharma

(6,057 posts)
48. Examples?
Tue Mar 5, 2013, 09:13 PM
Mar 2013

It seems you have some freedom of the press issues under Chavez......... examples?

Ditto with the due process........

Enlighten me. Examples?

cbayer

(146,218 posts)
45. I have mixed feelings because his legacy is so mixed.
Tue Mar 5, 2013, 08:56 PM
Mar 2013

I listen to those that love him and those that despise him, and both sides seem so sincere.

It's like Israel/Palestine for me.

Hope you are well nmbluesky (and ignore those that are rude to you - like I said above, they can't hold a candle to you).

 

rdharma

(6,057 posts)
49. "ignore those that are rude to you"
Tue Mar 5, 2013, 09:20 PM
Mar 2013

Ignore rudeness and name calling........ but please get your facts straight. Thank-you!

cbayer

(146,218 posts)
50. That's a whole different issue.
Tue Mar 5, 2013, 09:26 PM
Mar 2013

Challenging his facts is one thing. Mocking him is quite another. The comment was not directed at you or your response.

 

rdharma

(6,057 posts)
54. "comment was not directed at you or your response"
Tue Mar 5, 2013, 09:41 PM
Mar 2013

I didn't take it as such. But I just wanted to make sure.

Because "facts" are absent in the OP....... and I didn't want you to think I was just "mocking" the OP as being absurd!

 

Egalitarian Thug

(12,448 posts)
47. "We all got it comin'" is my reaction to his death. As for what he has accomplished,
Tue Mar 5, 2013, 09:07 PM
Mar 2013

much more good than bad. He did take many actions that I am generally opposed to, but one has to consider the environment in which he worked.

What can't be argued with is that he remained very popular all the time he was on the stage and he did more to improve the lives of Venezuelans in that time than anybody else for centuries. Severe poverty is less than half of what is was, literacy has more than doubled, and more people are actively involved in their own communities than ever before.

heather blossom

(174 posts)
51. sad
Tue Mar 5, 2013, 09:37 PM
Mar 2013

Just sad that he suffered a lot at the end. Sad for his family- it is hard to watch a loved one die from cancer. May he rest in peace.

Carolina

(6,960 posts)
66. then your happiness is displaced
Wed Mar 6, 2013, 01:46 PM
Mar 2013

on Chavez. Perhaps you should look around within the continental US at some our past "leaders!"

Puzzledtraveller

(5,937 posts)
61. No opinion, I'm sure he left behind family that loved him very much
Wed Mar 6, 2013, 01:24 PM
Mar 2013

No need to disparage him upon his death.

Fearless

(18,421 posts)
64. My opinion is he is irrelevant
Wed Mar 6, 2013, 01:32 PM
Mar 2013

The US makes to big a deal of his person, be it from the left or the right. Either demon or saint. Life is not that simple.

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