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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsDU ONLY, what did your reacts about president Hugo Chavez died?
My option about him was pity, only I remembered when oil workers protest in 2004, he ordered to shoot them.
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Hassin Bin Sober
(26,325 posts)(I had a cousin who was stupid)
Common Sense Party
(14,139 posts)Can't remember much of it now.
A HERETIC I AM
(24,366 posts)southernyankeebelle
(11,304 posts)malaise
(268,949 posts)cbayer
(146,218 posts)spoken English.
IMO, he does a fantastic job of expressing himself and those that mock him can't hold a candle to him.
elehhhhna
(32,076 posts)Common Sense Party
(14,139 posts)His first thought about Chavez was he ordered the shootings of oil workers?
Hold a candle to THAT.
cbayer
(146,218 posts)Great liberal values you've got there. I'm impressed.
Rhiannon12866
(205,237 posts)MineralMan
(146,287 posts)The OP does not have English as a primary language. It's apparent from your response that your skills in Spanish are about equivalent.
boomer55
(592 posts)Xipe Totec
(43,890 posts)Whisp
(24,096 posts)and what foreign claws are now scraping to install someone very unlike Mr. Chavez. A dictator.
alsame
(7,784 posts)vulnerable.
southernyankeebelle
(11,304 posts)America is already putting their hands in the pot.
He stood up to the installed POTUS whom he rightly called the devil and won! He could not be stopped or killed by the US and its corporate masters. I still wonder if his death is really natural, really due to cancer...
Marrah_G
(28,581 posts)May he rest in peace and may the people of Venezuela have a smooth transition to the next administration.
monmouth3
(3,871 posts)He sent it. I never did forget that act...
malaise
(268,949 posts)Fighting the elite in this hemisphere is no easy task - only they are allowed to shoot and kill 'enemies' of the state (as defined by them).
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malaise
(268,949 posts)I am very sad
fadedrose
(10,044 posts)The money people in the US started crap about him because he spent so much on the people there...and even sent oil to families here too poor to buy heating oil...plus they wanted to show him the oil busines and "help" him run it.
malaise
(268,949 posts)are calling him a friend of Jamaica and that he was. I haven't heard one negative call yet. I love leaders who can stand up to bullies.
By the way it was Chavez who destroyed Allan Stanford.
monmouth3
(3,871 posts)fadedrose
(10,044 posts)You did your best for your people, and your critics are well described by devilgrrl...
Who is his successor, if you know?
madamesilverspurs
(15,800 posts)when the Bushite-backed coup against Chavez was overthrown by the people of Venezuela...
I confess to wondering since then if Chavez' cancer wasn't 'assisted' by the same operatives. I hate thinking it, but there it is.
Common Sense Party
(14,139 posts)They couldn't find their navels with a flashlight, and you think that they injected Hugo with terminal cancer somehow.
madamesilverspurs
(15,800 posts)Whatever...
UTUSN
(70,684 posts)But this O.P. is critical at the minimum, so I will say in this space: I detest blowhard bully tyrants from the Left equally as from the Wingnut side. When CHEENEE croaks (although his government insurance will keep him in batteries for centuries), Ill be gravedancing about this same amount.
As the joke goes, every morning this dude would buy a newspaper from the corner stand and glance at the headline and dump the whole paper back on the stand. The seller eventually asked him why he did this. The reply was, Im looking for an obituary. The seller said, But, sir, the obituaries are in an inner section. The dude said, When the S.O.B. Im looking for dies, it will be on the front page!
That said, calling fellow DUers names for daring to have a differing opinion as has been done in this thread is not a democratic value.
angstlessk
(11,862 posts)and not the oligarchs!!
UTUSN
(70,684 posts)rdharma
(6,057 posts)No name calling here, friend. But what the OP posted as "fact" is crazy rightie nutter lies and propaganda.
Chavez never ordered the protesting oil workers "to be shot"!
Did the OP post this misinformation intentionally on the announcement of Chavez' passing? I don't know.
But if that's the case,.........it's in very poor taste and the OP might feel more at home over on the freeper site.
angstlessk
(11,862 posts)THEY WERE FIRED
LiberalFighter
(50,895 posts)annabanana
(52,791 posts)They WILL descend with their privatization and neoliberalism..
freckleface
(57 posts)In the winter while we were freezing them out, so to speak. He also had compassion for the poor of his country. A pundit stated earlier that "it would be better for the US if the right winger won the upcoming election. That's us...right-wingers over the people's choice. If they don't vote them in...we'll just install 'em!
Tierra_y_Libertad
(50,414 posts)muriel_volestrangler
(101,308 posts)A HERETIC I AM
(24,366 posts)Tom Rinaldo
(22,912 posts)If I were a poor man in his nation I would have fully supported him regardless of some real misgivings about him.
rdharma
(6,057 posts)Funny thing....... IT NEVER HAPPENED!
I'm just wondering what your "sources" are for your "memories"!
malaise
(268,949 posts)but the coup had been overturned by fellow soldiers.
Yo_Mama
(8,303 posts)No human being deserves cancer. I think once he had great ideals and then power and the frustration of the real world went to his head. So sorrow that his ideals became perverted, sorrow for his fate, and relief in a way that perhaps now Venezuela's future can improve?
http://www.amnesty.org/en/region/venezuela
http://www.hrw.org/americas/venezuela
I am kind of amazed that some on DU are so unambiguously glorifying a man who was involved in a lot of things that we decry in our own country.
rdharma
(6,057 posts)You bought into the rightie propaganda!
Yo_Mama
(8,303 posts)due process, etc.
The links I provided are because I knew I'd get responses such as yours. Argue with Human Rights Watch and Amnesty International, not me.
It seems you have some freedom of the press issues under Chavez......... examples?
Ditto with the due process........
Enlighten me. Examples?
cbayer
(146,218 posts)I listen to those that love him and those that despise him, and both sides seem so sincere.
It's like Israel/Palestine for me.
Hope you are well nmbluesky (and ignore those that are rude to you - like I said above, they can't hold a candle to you).
rdharma
(6,057 posts)Ignore rudeness and name calling........ but please get your facts straight. Thank-you!
cbayer
(146,218 posts)Challenging his facts is one thing. Mocking him is quite another. The comment was not directed at you or your response.
rdharma
(6,057 posts)I didn't take it as such. But I just wanted to make sure.
Because "facts" are absent in the OP....... and I didn't want you to think I was just "mocking" the OP as being absurd!
Egalitarian Thug
(12,448 posts)much more good than bad. He did take many actions that I am generally opposed to, but one has to consider the environment in which he worked.
What can't be argued with is that he remained very popular all the time he was on the stage and he did more to improve the lives of Venezuelans in that time than anybody else for centuries. Severe poverty is less than half of what is was, literacy has more than doubled, and more people are actively involved in their own communities than ever before.
heather blossom
(174 posts)Just sad that he suffered a lot at the end. Sad for his family- it is hard to watch a loved one die from cancer. May he rest in peace.
scheming daemons
(25,487 posts)Carolina
(6,960 posts)on Chavez. Perhaps you should look around within the continental US at some our past "leaders!"
nadinbrzezinski
(154,021 posts)All but surprised.
sakabatou
(42,149 posts)Puzzledtraveller
(5,937 posts)No need to disparage him upon his death.
MineralMan
(146,287 posts)Yo no estudio los asuntos de América del Sur. Por favor, perdóname.
Fearless
(18,421 posts)The US makes to big a deal of his person, be it from the left or the right. Either demon or saint. Life is not that simple.