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ProSense

(116,464 posts)
Tue Jan 31, 2012, 01:42 PM Jan 2012

Rep. Allen West Tries To Walk Back Telling Obama To ‘Get The Hell Out’...

Rep. Allen West Tries To Walk Back Telling Obama To ‘Get The Hell Out’: ‘I Did Not Refer To Any Person Leaving’

By Tanya Somanader

Rep. Allen West (R-FL) once again sparked controversy with a demagogic speech in Florida this past weekend where he demanded that liberals and President Obama “get the hell out of the United States of America.” Now, West is engaged in a rapid backpedal, appearing both on CNN and Fox this morning to insist that what he said is not actually what he said.

On CNN, West demanded that a skeptical host Soledad O’Brien view the entire speech an realize that “he was simply trying to draw attention to the decline of a country” at the hands of people who hold values that are “not in concert with our constitutional republic.” “And if you can’t understand that,” he added, “please come down to South Florida, you and I can read the Federalist Papers.” Later on Fox and Friends, West told host Steve Doocy, “I did not refer to any person leaving”:

WEST: The other thing is that I did not refer to any person leaving. If you go back and read the transcript of the message that I gave, it was about equality of achievement, it was about economic dependence, it was about enslaving the American entrepreneur’s will and spirit. That message needs to leave this country. And that was what I was referring to. And I think that anyone that sat back and looked at the entirety of that 12 minute, 45 second speech would understand that we’re talking about a contrast of visions of this country.

Watch both interviews:

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Looking back at the transcript as requested, it’s pretty clear that West specifically named “President Obama, Harry Reid, Nancy Pelosi and my dear friend, the chairman of the Democrat National Committee [Debbie Wasserman-Schultz]” to “take it to the North Pole, but get the hell out of the United States.”

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http://thinkprogress.org/politics/2012/01/31/415222/rep-allen-west-tries-to-walk-back-telling-obama-to-get-the-hell-out-i-did-not-refer-to-any-person-leaving/

Dumb fuck. It's easy to understand why he's a Republican.

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Rep. Allen West Tries To Walk Back Telling Obama To ‘Get The Hell Out’... (Original Post) ProSense Jan 2012 OP
If bullshit were electricity, he'd be a powerhouse. nt MADem Jan 2012 #1
he's demented. truly demented. roguevalley Jan 2012 #18
West is... Plucketeer Jan 2012 #21
"what he said is not actually what he said" Old and In the Way Jan 2012 #2
Even more curious is how this xxqqqzme Jan 2012 #6
Words mean nothing to them, thus integrity means nothing. The Wielding Truth Jan 2012 #15
Liberal media, of course. Fuzz Jan 2012 #29
So it's like this: Lawlbringer Jan 2012 #3
cocaine is a helluva drug mikeytherat Jan 2012 #16
He's a typical coward Loge23 Jan 2012 #4
"you and I can read the Federalist Papers.” Someone should call his bluff on that. yellowcanine Jan 2012 #5
Bingo. n/t renie408 Jan 2012 #10
+1 (n/t) a2liberal Jan 2012 #19
Does he have his civilian suits especially tailored to look like miliatry uniforms? Peregrine Took Jan 2012 #7
West is a coward and nothing else needs to be said. russspeakeasy Jan 2012 #8
West said what he said to his audience at that time. None of his audience will see his retractions LiberalArkie Jan 2012 #9
I called his Florida office yesterday and wonder if others did too. AtomicKitten Jan 2012 #11
just spoke with three different people at his Washington office surfdog Jan 2012 #12
Same gopper BS Iliyah Jan 2012 #13
"Guide for the Married Man"? rationalcalgarian Feb 2012 #45
"No I didn't torture those prisoners! You're wrong!" proud2BlibKansan Jan 2012 #14
Should be doing time at Ft Leavenworth era veteran Feb 2012 #43
lol -- sadly typical fishwax Jan 2012 #17
Okay, so exactly what he DID he say? rocktivity Jan 2012 #20
u damn liberal! Botany Jan 2012 #22
It's unfair to quote him in context Bruce Wayne Jan 2012 #25
How dare the 'liberal media' use his own exact words against him? Major Nikon Jan 2012 #23
"reality has a well-known liberal bias" LastLiberal in PalmSprings Feb 2012 #37
It's plausible. If they were leaving, you don't have to tell them "get out" Bruce Wayne Jan 2012 #24
Rumor has it West is about to cut-and-run to another district Adenoid_Hynkel Jan 2012 #26
His opponent, Lois Frankel just confirmed it DFW Feb 2012 #38
Allen West, a warrior in the great tradition of Sir Robin. Tommy_Carcetti Feb 2012 #44
All I know is my Ex Buddy Ron Klein must have been an awful congressperson WCGreen Jan 2012 #27
I doubt Allen West sulphurdunn Jan 2012 #28
The media used to shame people out of such blatant bullshit. The Doctor. Jan 2012 #30
Looks like Uncle Ruckus got into more trouble than he could handle... backscatter712 Jan 2012 #31
Hey Al! Reality has a liberal bias! muntrv Jan 2012 #32
What a disgusting piece of shit BlueIdaho Feb 2012 #33
not factual dothemath Feb 2012 #34
Fuck off, West. Zoeisright Feb 2012 #35
West is an asshole, a punk and a disgrace. lpbk2713 Feb 2012 #36
west..................................... roosterpack Feb 2012 #39
Ummmm, excuse me, MISTER West.......... Amaril Feb 2012 #40
and what is so jacked up about this SemperEadem Feb 2012 #41
West went Newt-ular, but he's flubbing it now... JHB Feb 2012 #42
 

Plucketeer

(12,882 posts)
21. West is...
Tue Jan 31, 2012, 06:35 PM
Jan 2012

an oozing, festering sore on the ass of humanity. He's the one that oughta leave - before his affliction spreads!

Old and In the Way

(37,540 posts)
2. "what he said is not actually what he said"
Tue Jan 31, 2012, 01:57 PM
Jan 2012

Ahhh, another victim of conservative speech syndrome. They were just giving a normal speech when other words suddenly were spewn from mouths. In spite of videotape evidence that clearly show what they said, the victim disavows the words as his/hers. Or maybe clear thinking and a command of the English language is problematic for the typical conservative politician-clown?

Lawlbringer

(550 posts)
3. So it's like this:
Tue Jan 31, 2012, 02:11 PM
Jan 2012

"See, I never just did things just to do them. Come on, what am I gonna do? Just all of a sudden jump up and grind my feet on somebody's couch like it's something to do? Come on. I got a little more sense then that."
[pause]
"Yeah, I remember grinding my feet on Eddie's couch."

Loge23

(3,922 posts)
4. He's a typical coward
Tue Jan 31, 2012, 02:23 PM
Jan 2012

West likes to talk big and bad until it's time to own up to his words, then he's all of a sudden a misunderstood gentleman whose words are being distorted by the ever-imaginary "liberal media".
He's basically a fringe nut job who was asked to leave the military for aggressive interrogation actions (can you say War Criminal?).
The hardest thing for him, now that he holds a legitimate job, is trying to sound like a reasonable human being.
He'll be out when his term is up, thankfully.

yellowcanine

(35,698 posts)
5. "you and I can read the Federalist Papers.” Someone should call his bluff on that.
Tue Jan 31, 2012, 02:29 PM
Jan 2012

Read a quote from the Federalist Papers and ask him where it came from.

My hunch is that West and most of the Tea Party types have never read the Federalist papers, at least in any detail. Their main purpose was to promote and defend the Constitution by arguing the virtues of a strong central government which the Constitution provides for, unlike the weak central government in the Articles of Confederation. Specifically things like judicial review and the Commerce Clause are defended, neither of which are held in high regard by Tea Party types. Even where the Federalist papers got it wrong it does not support the Tea Party positions. For example, Madison makes an argument that the Bill or Rights is unnecessary. With the way Tea Party types support gun rights enshrined as they see it in the 2nd Amendment, it is hard to see why they are such a fan of Madison and the Federalist Papers. Clearly they do not know about this argument which Madison makes.

Peregrine Took

(7,412 posts)
7. Does he have his civilian suits especially tailored to look like miliatry uniforms?
Tue Jan 31, 2012, 02:45 PM
Jan 2012

Something really weird about the way they fit.

LiberalArkie

(15,705 posts)
9. West said what he said to his audience at that time. None of his audience will see his retractions
Tue Jan 31, 2012, 03:55 PM
Jan 2012

on CNN, or any other media. As I do not think FoX ever covers the retractions during normal hours.

 

AtomicKitten

(46,585 posts)
11. I called his Florida office yesterday and wonder if others did too.
Tue Jan 31, 2012, 03:58 PM
Jan 2012

No I don't think my phone call precipitated this; just wondering if others complained too.

 

surfdog

(624 posts)
12. just spoke with three different people at his Washington office
Tue Jan 31, 2012, 03:59 PM
Jan 2012

All three of them said he never mentioned names in his statement

Iliyah

(25,111 posts)
13. Same gopper BS
Tue Jan 31, 2012, 04:29 PM
Jan 2012

This type of behavior always remind me of a movie, ummmmm, I think was "????" wherein a married middle aged man was making out with a young woman in his bedroom when his wife suddenly walks in but he and the young lady dresses (and she leaves) all the time ignoring the fact that they were actively, sexually involved, he makes up the bed all the while telling his wife what woman(?), and he keeps saying that and acting like nothing had happened and then his wife started believing him and thinking maybe she didn't see her husband making out - LOL

OK, thats the logic of the goppers.

rationalcalgarian

(295 posts)
45. "Guide for the Married Man"?
Wed Feb 1, 2012, 10:58 PM
Feb 2012

Sometime in the late 50's or early sixties, I think. Hilarious movie. The scene you describe had Sid Caesar as the husband and Carol Burnett as the wife.

proud2BlibKansan

(96,793 posts)
14. "No I didn't torture those prisoners! You're wrong!"
Tue Jan 31, 2012, 04:34 PM
Jan 2012

That's how he got out of serving any time for his war crimes. Why not try this trick again?

fishwax

(29,149 posts)
17. lol -- sadly typical
Tue Jan 31, 2012, 04:40 PM
Jan 2012


I don't know what reading the Federalist Papers has to do with understanding this: "Take your message of equality of achievement, take your message of economic dependency, take your message of enslaving the entrepreneurial will and spirit of the American people somewhere else. You can take it to Europe, you can take it to the bottom of the sea, you can take it to the North Pole, but get the hell out of the United States of America."

rocktivity

(44,573 posts)
20. Okay, so exactly what he DID he say?
Tue Jan 31, 2012, 05:38 PM
Jan 2012

Last edited Wed Feb 1, 2012, 12:40 PM - Edit history (1)

[div class="excerpt" style="border:1px #000000 solid"][font size="3"]"We need to let President Obama, Harry Reid, Nancy Pelosi, (audience boos) and my dear friend the chairman of the Democrat National Committee, we need to let them know that Florida ain't on the table," West said. "Take your message of equality of achievement, take your message of economic dependency, take your message of enslaving the entrepreneurial will and spirit of the American people somewhere else. You can take it to Europe, you can take it to the bottom of the sea, you can take it to the North Pole, but get the hell out of the United States of America."

Following cheers, West added, "Yeah I said 'hell.'"[/font]
Look on the bright side -- the realization that he's made a gaffe means he's probably back on his meds again.


rocktivity

37. "reality has a well-known liberal bias"
Wed Feb 1, 2012, 03:50 AM
Feb 2012

-- Stephen Colbert, standing about five feet from GW Bush at the 2006 White House Correspondents Dinner.

Bruce Wayne

(692 posts)
24. It's plausible. If they were leaving, you don't have to tell them "get out"
Tue Jan 31, 2012, 07:47 PM
Jan 2012

Otherwise, it's pure bullshit.

 

Adenoid_Hynkel

(14,093 posts)
26. Rumor has it West is about to cut-and-run to another district
Tue Jan 31, 2012, 07:49 PM
Jan 2012

Knowing that the moderate purple he currently represents is going to give him the boot in the fall.

DFW

(54,325 posts)
38. His opponent, Lois Frankel just confirmed it
Wed Feb 1, 2012, 05:38 AM
Feb 2012

This was in an email from her (campaign):

Allen West just announced that he is cutting and running from a fight with me - he is retreating to another district. Mr. West had to see the writing on the wall- after spending his time in Washington practicing his extreme tea-party politics, he lost touch with our district’s values.

Let me tell you one thing: I am staying right here in the 22nd Congressional district. I am proud of my record for fighting for the children, seniors, and working families of South Florida.

I look forward to continuing to run for the 22nd Congressional district, and I look forward to having your support.

Thanks so much

Lois

WCGreen

(45,558 posts)
27. All I know is my Ex Buddy Ron Klein must have been an awful congressperson
Tue Jan 31, 2012, 07:49 PM
Jan 2012

to get himself beat by this wack-a-doodle-do.

At the very least, former congressperson Ron Klien hired an awful campaign staff.

 

sulphurdunn

(6,891 posts)
28. I doubt Allen West
Tue Jan 31, 2012, 07:55 PM
Jan 2012

ever swore an oath of allegiance to the Federalist Papers. There is no small irony in the suspicion that this "representative" appears unfamiliar with the 14th Amendment of the Constitution of the United States, a document to which he has sworn an oath of allegiance.

lpbk2713

(42,750 posts)
36. West is an asshole, a punk and a disgrace.
Wed Feb 1, 2012, 03:04 AM
Feb 2012



It seems like he's always shooting his mouth off trying to get attention.

When he gets called on something he said, he's a river in Egypt.

No accountability, no spine.


roosterpack

(25 posts)
39. west.....................................
Wed Feb 1, 2012, 06:04 AM
Feb 2012

.......................you get the fuck out.

fuck you.

and your teabagging supporters.

you're not winning this present civil war we are now engaged in.

we..................................outnumber you.

we...................................will fight just as dirty as you do.......................maybe a little more.

civil discourse?...............................shove it up your fuckin ass.

my gloves have been off for about 10 yrs..................or more.

Amaril

(1,267 posts)
40. Ummmm, excuse me, MISTER West..........
Wed Feb 1, 2012, 07:42 AM
Feb 2012

......apparently we (as in the people who voted for the elected officials you named) are the majority in this country (otherwise those folks wouldn't have been elected in the first place, now would they?), so how about YOU get the fuck out. Frankly, we're sick and tired of your nasty, hateful attitude and your lack of ideas and solutions beyond further decimating the lives of average Americans, and bad mouthing people who actually give two shits about this country. The US would be a much better place all around if YOUR kind were to seek a new.........errrr..........fatherland for yourselves.

Sincerely,

The American People a/k/a The 99%

ps........you can SO bite us!

SemperEadem

(8,053 posts)
41. and what is so jacked up about this
Wed Feb 1, 2012, 07:51 AM
Feb 2012

is that O'brien wasn't enough up on what she should have been up on with this idiot that she could
challenge him on his idiocy and fling the truth back in his teeth--cnn's anchor/newsreaders have taken being clueless on the facts
of their guests to a new art form. John King, Wolf Blitzer and now OBrien--all 3, when challenged
with keeping the record straight, as all journalists are, they shrink and wilt when put on the spot.

Of course that idiot named Obama, Pelosi and all liberals who needed to get the hell out of the US--but they aren't the ones
who have the issue--west and his ilk are--and they are perfectly welcome to go find whatever place it is that they feel
the US no longer is and set up camp there.

JHB

(37,157 posts)
42. West went Newt-ular, but he's flubbing it now...
Wed Feb 1, 2012, 07:53 AM
Feb 2012

Pay attention to the master, Allen. When you say something outrageous because all the alligators in your audience just love having gobbets of meat thrown to them, don't backtrack. Double down!

You get points for trying to toss it back on the reporter, but you need to double-down there, too, and outright accuse them of having an agenda, of twisting your words and attacking you merely because you dare to speak out against their cold, gray Party Line.

The press will forget about it, but your alligators will love you all the more. Win-Win!

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