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An unfortunate, but accurate quote from Hugo Chavez... (Original Post) Playinghardball Mar 2013 OP
kr. HiPointDem Mar 2013 #1
I hate to admit it... elzenmahn Mar 2013 #2
It is a bank..... DeSwiss Mar 2013 #3
When you're right, you're right, and Chavez hit it on the button. marble falls Mar 2013 #4
I used to really dislike Chavez, but my mind has been changed over the years, and a lot of apocalypsehow Mar 2013 #5
Says the man who got rich in the name of the poor. Zax2me Mar 2013 #6
This from a board which advocates for a party that has made banks rich on a stack of food stamps, jtuck004 Mar 2013 #8
BAM! DeSwiss Mar 2013 #9
do you have a link to verify this claim? noiretextatique Mar 2013 #12
It's been debunked. Starry Messenger Mar 2013 #14
thanks...and still it is a meme that Duers are posting noiretextatique Mar 2013 #15
Says the fucking hypocrite who literally sold greenhouse gases to the entire world Dreamer Tatum Mar 2013 #7
advocating emission reductions which would reduce your revenue reorg Mar 2013 #11
Um, so? How much oil does Venezuela ship out? nt Dreamer Tatum Mar 2013 #13
K&R idwiyo Mar 2013 #10

elzenmahn

(904 posts)
2. I hate to admit it...
Thu Mar 7, 2013, 05:20 PM
Mar 2013

Last edited Fri Mar 8, 2013, 01:28 AM - Edit history (1)

...but Hugo was right, once again.

He knew where our priorities are.

apocalypsehow

(12,751 posts)
5. I used to really dislike Chavez, but my mind has been changed over the years, and a lot of
Thu Mar 7, 2013, 06:16 PM
Mar 2013

the reason why has to do with articles and commentary posted right here at DU. I'm still not a "fan" of his by any stretch of the imagination, but my view has moderated. It has definitely changed, and it was DU'ers posting articles and that commentary who helped change my mind.

This quote is spot-on.

 

Zax2me

(2,515 posts)
6. Says the man who got rich in the name of the poor.
Thu Mar 7, 2013, 06:19 PM
Mar 2013

Hugo Chavez knew how to manipulate people by pulling strings -
Mostly political strings.
He could turn people into puppets.
For proof - well.....

 

jtuck004

(15,882 posts)
8. This from a board which advocates for a party that has made banks rich on a stack of food stamps,
Thu Mar 7, 2013, 06:33 PM
Mar 2013

foreclosed homes, and personal tragedy seems a bit rich in itself.

noiretextatique

(27,275 posts)
12. do you have a link to verify this claim?
Fri Mar 8, 2013, 02:04 PM
Mar 2013

I keep hearing this, but I cannot not find a credible source. Thanks.

Starry Messenger

(32,342 posts)
14. It's been debunked.
Mon Mar 11, 2013, 12:24 PM
Mar 2013
http://skeptics.stackexchange.com/questions/15278/did-hugo-chavez-have-a-net-worth-of-2-billion-dollars-at-the-time-of-his-death



It seems to be that this claim originated from Criminal Justice International Associates (CJIA). They seem to have one person affiliated with their organization, the same person cited in the source, "Jerry Brewer". In the comments to the question, someone found their website. On it was a phone number which helped me find this site which they had made with Google. CJIA refers to itself as a A Global Threat Mitigation Firm, which seems vague and Stratfor-ish.

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He works as an expert witness on "complex law enforcement operational issues including death/homicide," needless to say at this point it seemed like making a claim about the wealth of the president of a foreign nation is out of his paygrade.

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There is no further mention in even this most recent document of Chávez's wealth. It is worth explicitly mentioning that it's pretty naive and shortsighted to say that an oil subsidy to Cuba resulted in a severe crippling of the Venezuela's economy.

Brewer seems to be eccentric character that doesn't like citing his facts. It seems consistent with his character and anti-Chávez positions to make such a statement, and also consistent not to cite that statement. I wouldn't put any weight in Brewer's authority and the statement is otherwise unsubstantiated.

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noiretextatique

(27,275 posts)
15. thanks...and still it is a meme that Duers are posting
Mon Mar 11, 2013, 08:45 PM
Mar 2013

without any source. foolish people repeating stupid memes to support their crazy positions

Dreamer Tatum

(10,926 posts)
7. Says the fucking hypocrite who literally sold greenhouse gases to the entire world
Thu Mar 7, 2013, 06:29 PM
Mar 2013

When your economy is based on fucking up the environment, it is probably wise to shut one's pie-hole.

I guess it's shut now, however.

reorg

(3,317 posts)
11. advocating emission reductions which would reduce your revenue
Fri Mar 8, 2013, 01:40 AM
Mar 2013

is hypocrisy? I don't follow, please explain.

Per capita CO2 emissions in Venezuela are relatively modest, they rank somewhere around place 70:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_carbon_dioxide_emissions_per_capita

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