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The Straight Story

(48,121 posts)
Tue Jan 31, 2012, 06:15 PM Jan 2012

Gasoline prices on the rise as refineries close

Gasoline prices on the rise as refineries close

Gasoline prices are rising steadily across the United States, but a third East Coast refinery closure could set up higher prices later this year.

Texas gasoline prices are up 10 cents and Houston prices have shot up 12 cents over the last week, but analysts say those prices could steadily rise after a third refinery announced plans to close later this year.

HOVENSA announced earlier this month that it would shut down its St. Croix refinery in the Virgin Islands. Sunoco and ConocoPhillips have already announced plans to idle two refineries in the Delaware Valley.

Sunoco said it could decide to idle another refinery in the East Coast by mid-2012. The Department of Energy said those closures could “cut as much as 50 percent of current East Coast refining capacity.”

Phil Weiss, an Argus Research analyst, told The Los Angeles Times that the closures could leave U.S. motorists with little supply cushion for future mishaps or disasters. Those supplies could be further tightened if more than 30,000 refinery and chemical workers strike over a contract dispute.

http://fuelfix.com/blog/2012/01/31/gasoline-prices-on-the-rise-as-refineries-close/

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Gasoline prices on the rise as refineries close (Original Post) The Straight Story Jan 2012 OP
I think the oil industry needs more subsidies to keep gas supplies plentiful jpak Jan 2012 #1
... SammyWinstonJack Jan 2012 #10
Fabricated demand liberal N proud Jan 2012 #2
+1 and they are allowed to get away with it. n/t Bonhomme Richard Jan 2012 #3
Sounds more like an extortion attempt to me meow2u3 Jan 2012 #6
"Give us the pipeline, or your gas gets it." DJ13 Jan 2012 #4
Yep, that's pretty much the case. MadHound Jan 2012 #5
Gas in my town jumped 20 cents per gallon last night. I'm sure it's nothing but bullwinkle428 Jan 2012 #7
time to nationalize it leftyohiolib Jan 2012 #8
Gasoline consumption is going down; old East Coast refineries are inefficient FarCenter Jan 2012 #9
Ending the Ethanol Tax Break is causing the huge gas price spike at the pump since December 31, 2011 KrazeeKrewe Feb 2012 #11

jpak

(41,757 posts)
1. I think the oil industry needs more subsidies to keep gas supplies plentiful
Tue Jan 31, 2012, 06:19 PM
Jan 2012

They've been a'hurtin' ever since Obama took over

Profits have plunged and this is what happens.

yup



















meow2u3

(24,761 posts)
6. Sounds more like an extortion attempt to me
Tue Jan 31, 2012, 06:38 PM
Jan 2012

Oil refineries are deliberately shutting down to extort money and preferential treatment from President Obama and Congressional Democrats, all while holding the American people hostage to hyperinflated oil and gas prices.

The President should get on his bully pulpit and call Big Oil on their extortionist tactics

 

MadHound

(34,179 posts)
5. Yep, that's pretty much the case.
Tue Jan 31, 2012, 06:32 PM
Jan 2012

And sadly, Congress and this administration will, after much handwringing, go along.

bullwinkle428

(20,629 posts)
7. Gas in my town jumped 20 cents per gallon last night. I'm sure it's nothing but
Tue Jan 31, 2012, 06:43 PM
Jan 2012

pure coincidence, on the heels of the Keystone decision!

 

FarCenter

(19,429 posts)
9. Gasoline consumption is going down; old East Coast refineries are inefficient
Tue Jan 31, 2012, 08:48 PM
Jan 2012

People have bought vehicles with better gas mileage and they are driving less in response to high gas prices. Hence consumption is down.

The US is actually in a net export position with respect to refined products. We export a little more gas and diesel fuel than we import. But note that we import a lot more crude oil than we export gasoline. So part of our refinerie capacity is going toward refining imported crude for export.

The St. Croix refinerie is partly a victim of our political conflict with Venezuela, since it was a joint venture with them.

The East Coast refineries are not competitive with the Gulf Coast refineries because:
- the supply of natural gas to be used as a refinerie feedstock is not as cheap,
- they are old and would require upgrading to handle poorer grades of crude, and
- the East Coast doesn't have a supertanker port like Louisiana Offshore Oil Port.

 

KrazeeKrewe

(34 posts)
11. Ending the Ethanol Tax Break is causing the huge gas price spike at the pump since December 31, 2011
Thu Feb 2, 2012, 09:59 PM
Feb 2012

Ethanol & Bio Diesel is being ran in all of todays vehicles with no conversion. Ethanol & Bio Diesel is being transported to, pumped through & sold in all of todays gas stations with no conversions. It will take major facility modifications in order to make other transportation energy sources available, not to mention transport to those facilities. Your automobile will also need major modifications to run on other energy sources.

Exempting Ethanol & Bio Diesel from some of the taxes at the pump was the cheapest & best way to reduce the price at the pump & our dependence on foreign oil other than drilling for more here at home. The ethanol tax cut reduced the taxes everyone paid at the pump since every gallon of gasoline contained at least 10% ethanol.

Congress sunset the ethanol tax cut at the end of 2011. See the sudden gas price reversal & spike since new years in the chart below. That is a direct result of higher taxes per gallon & falling ethanol competition. Gasoline prices continue to spiral as ethanol production has dropped every since this tax hike on new years day.



Jan. 25 (Bloomberg) -- Ethanol production in the U.S. fell 0.7 percent to 934,000 barrels a day, the lowest level since Nov. 25, according to an Energy Department report.

The third consecutive weekly drop matches the longest such streak since the period ended Sept. 23. Stockpiles climbed 1.4 percent to 19.8 million barrels, the highest level since the week ended May 27, the department said in a report released today in Washington. Inventories have swelled six straight weeks, the longest streak since Jan. 21, 2011.

Wholesale Ethanol Price Chart


Wholesale Gasoline Price Chart

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