How I got a lifelong Republican to vote Dem. And you can too.

[MannyGoldstein]

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A good friend of mine grew up in the Midwest, and is still Midwestern even after being here in the People's Republic of Massachusetts for decades. Nice guy, but a lifelong Republican. Will readily admit that most of his party's gone nuts, but could never bring himself to vote for Democrats.

Last fall we were hanging out, and he was telling me how Scott Brown's GREAT because he's bipartisan, Warren's a Moonbat Lefty Harvard Professor, yadda, yadda, yadda... "Watch this!" I said as I popped onto YouTube, and pulled up a couple of videos of Not-Yet-Senator Warren reaming new orifices (orifi?) into Timmy Geithner, e.g.:

By the time the videos were done, Warren was a vote closer to her current job

It's been so many years since we've had FDR Democrats in office that people have forgotten what they do. Even folks in their 50s, like my buddy.

Virtually everyone knows that the banks are screwing the 99% with full bipartisan government help. There's bipartisan hatred for it among the 99%, bipartisan love for it among the 1%. Even Republicans, and certainly independents, have got to look at Warren going after these swine with both fists bared and think "@#$%, that's just what we need!".

Going into 2014 (thanks Will Pitt!) and beyond, I will make sure that I show as many Liz Warren beatdown videos to as many people that I can. Show 'em what an FDR Democrat is, and why they want one. I hope that you try it, too.

[Arctic Dave]

1. My wife brought up this "concept" at the Democratic cuacus in our State,

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most of the party leaders looked at her like she was from another planet.

They are so ingrained with the quest for the mythical "moderate republican" that all they can spout is milquetoast DLC talking points of how that doesn't work.

Needless to say, Alaska Dems have been getting their collective asses handed to them with their spinless Dem philosophy.

Corrected spelling due to up all night and no coffee yet.

[MannyGoldstein]

2. I'd think it would work particularly well in AK if tried?

The Alaskans I've known have struck me as tough and blunt*... like Warren.


*Other than the Miss Alaska winner to whom I gave a lift back from the airport once in upstate NY many years ago. She just seemed... Miss Americany. Oh crap, now that I think about it, she was probably the one who beat Palin. Another of my teeny-tiny brushes with greatness!

[YoungDemCA]

33. Speaking the language of the working-class and speaking to their values...

...works quite well. Who'd have thought?

[Egalitarian Thug]

13. An epidemic disease in state level party that I've run into all over the west.

The DLC-3rd Way-Blue Dogs have done more damage to the Democratic Party over the last 20 years than the republicans have in a century.

[Arctic Dave]

15. And Alaska is in a terminal state with our DLC illness.

We are quickly becoming a repug third world "paradise".

Corporate looters are rejoicing.

[TomClash]

35. +1

They're not Democrats on economic issues.

[yurbud]

26. it ain't spineless, it's corruption.

[valerief]

28. Badda bing! You win the prize. nt

[WillyT]

3. K & R !!! - Thank You For That !!!

[MannyGoldstein]

5. I love you WillyT

You always insert motion and joy into my life. Along with great information, solid opinions, and a fine intellect.

[bvar22]

4. I've always maintained that an unashamed, outspoken, Populist Democrat...

...like Huey Long can WIN in ANY state, even conservative states, if he/she takes the case to The People.
"You need to run conservative Democrats in Conservative States" is a bogus myth created and perpetuated BY conservatives.

Give me the Old School Harry Truman Democratic Party campaigns!

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"I've seen it happen time after time. When the Democratic candidate allows himself to be put on the defensive and starts apologizing for the New Deal and the Fair Deal, and says he really doesn't believe in them, he is sure to lose. The people don't want a phony Democrat. If it's a choice between a genuine Republican, and a Republican in Democratic clothing, the people will choose the genuine article, every time; that is, they will take a Republican before they will a phony Democrat, and I don't want any phony Democratic candidates in this campaign."
---President Harry Truman

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DURec!

[MannyGoldstein]

7. Agree 100%

Democrats went spineless under Reagan, then rocketed right starting with Clinton.

The real deal New Dealers will turn this sucker around!

[truedelphi]

9. What I will offer those statements of yours

[xtraxritical]

48. What's a "buck" anyhow? A dollar? Some kind of marker like in craps? Why not the BS stops here?

[Guy Whitey Corngood]

6. Not very "Third Way" of her :-P

[MannyGoldstein]

10. Not a team player.

At least not with that team.

But we'll keep her, anyway!

[October]

8. No one compares to Warren.

I ALWAYS share/post her on my FB!

[lark]

11. Excellent suggestion!

Thanks Manny. I'm going to try this with a dear friend who is a moderate Repug but is a feminist. Maybe I can get her to flip too?

[MannyGoldstein]

12. I'll bet it works!

Let us know how it goes!

Might take a few tries... sometimes it's hard for people to change. Fortunately Warren seems to have a new one every week or two.

[Zorra]

14. Awesome post!!! K&R!!! Yep, even many conservatives will grudgingly respect any politician

who displays that type of honesty courage, and tenacity.

I will donate to, and work for, any candidate who genuinely displays the commitment, courage, understanding, and character that defines an FDR type candidate like President Senator Elizabeth Warren.

No more corporatist Third Way neo-liberal DINO phonies.

We all totally need and deserve the real thing ~ serious FDR Democrats only need apply.

[gringo43]

21. YEP

+1

[Herlong]

16. In all honesty

I want both parties to be strong and rational. We only have two parties here. I believe what I believe and I want a strong opposition. For my kids.

[Zorra]

17. Harken, and be amazed, oh unbelievers.

That's what a real, honest to goodness sincere and genuine Democrat acts like. Let's fill Congress with Democrats like President (whoops) Senator Warren.

[MannyGoldstein]

18. AWESOME!!!

Yours?

[Zorra]

19. No.

It's from Bartcop. I just had to pirate it for this occasion.

Senator Warren is proving to be everything she promised to be, and I am more excited about her presence in the Senate than any other Senator in several decades.

I'm absolutely thrilled with her performance as a representative of the people so far.

Thrilled. She's so good.

[MannyGoldstein]

20. I thought she was the real deal from the start

I read her book on how middle class families are getting #%^*ed, and thought "Hey! she really gets it!" I watched her go to Washington and battle Republicans and Geithner, and set up the cfpb.

I hope she doesn't disappoint... But after seeing her hit the ground running, I think we're good.

[KoKo]

22. Nice Zorra! Love It!

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[Zorra]

43. Yeh, it put a big smile on me when I stumbled onto it.

[Swede Atlanta]

23. Geithner is an embarrassment....

His nose is so far up the proverbial banker's ass that he can hardly breathe.

Why did Iceland jail bankers and see their economy right itself while we protected bankers and our economy is on a very sluggish path toward recovery?

Where is the outrage? Oh that's right....they are mad at the QuikTrip guy because he is charging more for gas and the Kroger clerk for charging more for food.

They aren't focused on the criminals in the financial services sector that should be brought to justice and...well whatever that entails.

I'm sure they will still be able to play 18 rounds of golf every day and talk with their stockbroker and get a pedicure. After all, they are just "white collar criminals" that screw millions whereas someone who steals from a corner store affecting that one owner is thrown away for 25 years in a max-sec lock-down?

We are a truly fucked-up society.

[great white snark]

24. Considering your history forgive me if I don't believe you.

Will you still be showing her videos after she makes her first compromise? Will she still be an FDR Democrat when she casts votes you don't like?

[MannyGoldstein]

25. My history of what?

Be specific.

[Skittles]

34. your history of speaking truth to power, Manny

it irritates, you know, THOSE folk

[HiPointDem]

38. with under 2000 posts, how would you know?

[JTFrog]

39. That poster has been a member 2 years longer than you.

What? We have to post 13k posts a year to notice what's going on around here?

[bvar22]

49. When Senator Warren casts a vote ...

...that is not consistent with the Traditional Democratic Party Values of FDR/LBJ,
she WILL hear about it from ALL of the Policy Oriented Liberals at DU,
and that includes Manny & myself.

"Considering your history", I know this is difficult for someone like you to understand that we do NOT pledge allegiance to any one individual.

I, and many like myself at DU, have blasted Kucinich, Sanders, and other Progressives in the past when they joined with the centrists in a Party Unity Symbolic vote on an issue they did NOT support.

It is NOT about The Person.
It IS about the Policy.





You will know them by their WORKS,
not by their rhetoric, promises, or excuses.
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[Scuba]

27. A K, an R, and a big fucking BoooooWaaaahhhhhh!

[nadinbrzezinski]

29. We need to become conservative and be proud of it

(Wait, dd aliens kidnap you)

Nope, not quite.

The way the two parties have evolved the GOP are a bunch of radicals...we are trying to conserve the safety net...ergo we are conservatives...in the classic Edmund Burke way.

[MannyGoldstein]

30. Funny, but true.

Have a good night, off to bed for me...

[nadinbrzezinski]

31. Been reading way too much poli sci

Night, sweet dreams.

Here listening to the scanner, one of those nights...yes, work.

[YoungDemCA]

32. Speaking of FDR Democrats....

He was respected, even by many Republicans, because he was principled, tough, tenacious, and courageous.

K&R.

[AnotherMcIntosh]

47. And another unfortunate airplane passenger.

[wilsonbooks]

36. http://www.nakedcapitalism.com/2013/03/treasury-and-fed-officials-prevaricate-before-elizabeth-warre

[link:http://www.nakedcapitalism.com/2013/03/treasury-and-fed-officials-prevaricate-before-elizabeth-warren-about-whether-they-will-ever-get-tough-with-banks.html#wMpKboT8FsIwQVUw.01|

[HiPointDem]

37. kr. the only thing it takes to win is for democrats to act like democrats, instead of like

warmed-over republicans and libertarians.

the reagan wave is over and only maintains its hold on the country because of the 'bipartisanship' of democrats.

[UnrepentantLiberal]

40. More like her would be a big help.

[raouldukelives]

41. K&R nt

[nineteen50]

42. Franklin D. Roosevelt—

“The first truth is that the liberty of a democracy is not safe if the people tolerate the growth of private power to a point where it becomes stronger than their democratic state itself. That, in its essence, is Fascism—ownership of Government by an individual, by a group, or by any other controlling private power.”

[Honeycombe8]

44. Wow. Talk about Geithner doublespeak, failing to answer questions directly,

and sidestepping questions, as well as condescension to Ms. Warren. Implying this subject is too complicated for her...ha!

Having this guy in his position during these years has been one reason the economy hasn't recovered more quickly, is my opinion.

[DhhD]

45. Did you notice that Geithner is framing all the policies that banks owe the taxpayers over the past

four years, for bailing the banks out, is for future practices.

Banks have helped themselves out but have yet to provide to the American People services and practices of their staying in business to begin with. This is going in to year 5.

Americans have been waiting and waiting and waiting while being harmed by more bad financial practices.

It is time for the Government of the US to deliver the consequences.

[AnotherMcIntosh]

46. "Show 'em what an FDR Democrat is." -- Send a copy to the White House.