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The Premise of Digital Surveillance Precludes ScholarshipFriday, 08 March 2013 00:00
By R. Lila Steinberg, Truthout | Op-Ed
Since 9/11, sweeping and indiscriminate digital surveillance of all computer and telecommunications users has been conducted, and more recently, systems have been developed to store every byte of that information forever. This means that if actors within some government agency decide to target you, they can immediately access every telecommunication: email, phone call, etcetera, that you have made or sent for years, as well as every web site you have visited.
By claiming falsely that reviewing materials, for example, about creationism, makes one necessarily a creationist, or reviewing materials about jihad makes one a jihadist, or that reviewing materials about anarchism makes one necessarily an anarchist, and, further, that reviewing anything or even claiming these titles is the same as actually committing any crime, the surveillance state is effectively abolishing your right to be a critical thinker.
the rest:
http://www.truth-out.org/opinion/item/14839-the-premise-of-digital-surveillance-precludes-scholarship#i
leveymg
(36,418 posts)go on a list.
cantbeserious
(13,039 posts)tpsbmam
(3,927 posts)Hadn't seen that particular Carlin. Man, Do I miss him! But I'm sharing that one far and wide -- there are some people around here who need to spend a few minutes listening to this. I've tried to educate them but maybe they'll hear it differently coming from him. Who knows! Thanks for posting it.
DhhD
(4,695 posts)jilted by the American Dream, were afraid to assemble (our 1st Amendment Right). OWS was lacking all that are effected. The American people know why they did not occupy and in my opinion have a much greater support of OWS than most realize. It is like, we support our troops even though we cannot occupy with them. It is a true Mind-Meld.
NYC_SKP
(68,644 posts)AnotherMcIntosh
(11,064 posts)Maybe we can all be like the super-supporters without a need to be critical thinkers.
Octafish
(55,745 posts)Deep down, and I think I can speak for everyone on DU, we look forward to the continuing expansion of government by the people, of the people, and for the people; as well as more freedom, equality, civil rights, transparency, economic prosperity and peace in the coming years. I've felt that way ever since the vile gangster and war criminal Don Siegelman was returned to prison.
PS: Do I get a pony now?
L0oniX
(31,493 posts)xtraxritical
(3,576 posts)AnotherMcIntosh
(11,064 posts)xtraxritical
(3,576 posts)AnotherMcIntosh
(11,064 posts)Here's some of the reporting which does not indicate that:
As thousands of Occupy Wall Street protesters took to the streets on Thursday, journalists once again found themselves a target of police violence and arrests.
Reporters took to Twitter and, in some cases, to television to spread the word of the heavy hand police were using against them. It appeared to be a repeat of a similar scene two days earlier, when journalists were roughed up and arrested as the NYPD forcibly cleared the Occupy Wall Street encampment in lower Manhattan.
Lucy Kafanov, a reporter for the RT television network, said she was hit with a police baton while trying to film the protests. She told another reporter for her network that she had her press credentials clearly visible, but was still struck. She also said that she witnessed another reporter from the IndyMedia network being "slammed against the wall" and arrested.
...
The Daily Caller also said that two of its reporters were "assaulted" with batons.
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2011/11/17/occupy-wall-street-nov-17-journalists-arrested-beaten_n_1099661.html
Comrade_McKenzie
(2,526 posts)With the rise in right-wing extremist groups... I'm glad we have this type of surveillance.
AnotherMcIntosh
(11,064 posts)we-had-to-destroy-the-village-in-order-to-save-it things?
So there are "right-wing extremist groups". What is more right-wing that adopting a surveillance state that goes beyond anything that existed in Russia or East Germany?
L0oniX
(31,493 posts)Jackpine Radical
(45,274 posts)Them loony DUers Welcome the Socialist Nazi Commie Security State!
Quick--Help me gotta get the word out!
You post to FR while I see if I can get Fox interested.
Breitbart will love it!
judesedit
(4,437 posts)judesedit
(4,437 posts)past...they have too much now. And in the end, they do what they want with us. It's their word against ours. Who's word is going to be listened to....ours or the cops, Congresspeople, President, wealthy lobbyists? You guessed it. Whistleblowers have been being killed forever. They just make it look like suicide or a major accident. You can't be that naive. Can you? It's all about the money. The ones with the most $$$$$ run everything. And care about one thing only....to be able to continue raking it in at the rate they are now. While we suffer, they prosper.
xtraxritical
(3,576 posts)UnrepentantLiberal
(11,700 posts)Jihad, Jihad, Jihad, anarchy, anarchy, anarchy. I like to think I'm wasting some cyberspook's time.
L0oniX
(31,493 posts)Quote: bomb bomb bomb ...bomb bomb Iran
UnrepentantLiberal
(11,700 posts)chervilant
(8,267 posts)"Mama, why are these words so nasty? "
Trillo
(9,154 posts)Politicub
(12,165 posts)While technically possible is it feasible? Probably not. It's why we have laws. Despotic governments have used crude tech to spy on citizens, and it worked at the time. It's not what the US has done. There was more potential for control when everyone just got two or three tv channels. Didn't happen, though TV has been highly influential.
Yes, the FBI and CIA spy on limited numbers of people, and privacy laws should be strengthened, IMHO.
But limiting critical thinking ability? Seriously?
dixiegrrrrl
(60,010 posts)wet_to_activate
(7 posts)Last edited Sun Mar 10, 2013, 03:04 AM - Edit history (1)
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AnotherMcIntosh
(11,064 posts)chervilant
(8,267 posts)Response to kpete (Original post)
damnedifIknow This message was self-deleted by its author.
MotherPetrie
(3,145 posts)caseymoz
(5,763 posts)I know that's heresy, but it's possible that it's better to do without it.
Tierra_y_Libertad
(50,414 posts)NNN0LHI
(67,190 posts)MineralMan
(146,284 posts)interesting to the federal government or to any government. We can research whatever we wish, talk about anything that doesn't break the TOS of DU, and anyone looking for subversives will simply ignore whatever we do on DU.
While it may be technologically feasible to have a computer look at everything posted here and on all the other sites on the Internet, it is unfeasible for human beings to follow up on all of those discussions where some keyword appears. The human power needed to do that does not exist. I imagine that those computers sifting through all of the messaging and what-all circulating on the Internet are looking for more than just words in posts on discussion forums. In fact, there is almost certainly a Boolean equivalent of IF messagesource = democraticunderground.com Then Ignore.
The thing is that DUers are not dangerous people. They aren't plotting the overthrow of anything other than overthrowing their garbage out and missing the trashcan, with a vanishingly small number of possible exceptions. So, we're simply not of interest to anyone looking for dangerous subversives.
With all of the truly nasty websites out there posting truly seditious stuff, we're not even seeing any government action on even the people posting that crap. It's not happening, and is unlikely to happen, simply because there aren't enough human beings to investigate more than a tiny fraction of seditious postings on the Internet.
Overestimating the capabilities of government intelligence operations is almost as bad as underestimating them. Where there is no material risk of evildoing, there is no interest or human capability of investigation, and DU is not a place to look for genuine evildoers. Truly.
Spider Jerusalem
(21,786 posts)There's a significant, and large, difference between reading Emma Goldman and looking up how to build a bomb (for instance). Sure, reading things like Goldman and Kropotkin and so on doesn't necessarily make one an anarchist, but there are things which can be correlated: reading those things *and* looking at how to combine fertiliser and diesel fuel to make a big boom? Then you're probably on a list somewhere, because there's a correlative link between political thought potentially leading to overt action. These aren't abstractions we're dealing with here, after all.
olddots
(10,237 posts)Who wants interesting people ?