Turkish Woman Kills And Decapitates Rapist – Delivers His Head To Town Square

[RandySF]

Yildirim says that Gider raped her, impregnated her and then, snuck into her home while she was sleeping and photographed her. The pictures revealed a pregnant body and Gider threatened to publish the pictures if she didn’t obey him.

“I chased him,” she said. “He fell on the ground. He started cussing. I shot his sexual organ this time. He became quiet. I knew he was dead. I then cut his head off.”

She brought the head to the town square and in front of men sitting at a coffee House, she said, “Don’t talk behind my back, don’t play with my honor. Here is the head of the man who played with my honor.”

She was arrested and is in jail.


http://samuel-warde.com/2013/03/turkish-woman-kills-and-decapitates-rapist-delivers-his-head-to-town-square-video/

[Honeycombe8]

1. Wow. Funny she didn't get that mad until the pictures...

I guess they don't prosecute for rape in Turkey.

[BainsBane]

12. because he was threatening to smear her name

and besmirch her honor in order to coerce her into having sex.

[Honeycombe8]

84. He kinda had done that before, hadn't he?

I'm guessing Turkey doesn't prosecute for rape, or if they do, most guys get off (no pun intended). Hence, the decapitation.

[BainsBane]

92. like here

[Cleita]

2. If only we could do that to Cheney, who raped a whole nation.

Not to detract from your story, but sometimes a little primitive in the way of feelings sneaks up on me. Also, I don't think things are going to go well for this woman, no matter how justified she was. Every criminal still need to be put on trial before they are executed.

[aquart]

33. See, I don't think she's a criminal.

I think she's Justice.

Turkey being the palace of charm it's always been, I'm sure she is in trouble. Personally, I hope this starts a trend.

[HiPointDem]

58. except, of course, for the possibility that maybe the story is not as she claims.

but if you're ok with people killing those who wrong them then i presume you'll have no problem with some of these workplace shootings.

[aquart]

132. In which men use penis-like guns to metaphorically rape co-workers? Nah.

Men who abuse sexual dimorphism to harm women and children or anyone physically weaker do not belong on this planet IMHO.

[cliffordu]

56. What the fuck?

Jesus.

[HiPointDem]

59. what's so 'jesus' about it? cheney lied us into war and caused millions of deaths, disabilities,

property destructions, family break-ups, poverty and misery. americans, iraqis, afghanis.

the vision of his head on a platter doesn't apall me one bit.

i'd not support it if someone was actually proposing to do it in real life, but imagining it vicariously is not apalling at all.

[cliffordu]

60. I cheer the woman who did this.

I DO understand that she might forfeit her life as a result.

Nevertheless, there are fates worse than death.

If more women did exactly that, rapists would have to think twice.

It might be the only thing that prevents many rapes. It is obvious that the 'protection' of men and the law cannot.

Sometimes blood demands blood.

I celebrate that idea.

Sometimes killing some fucker is the only out.

As usual, your mileage may vary.

[HiPointDem]

61. what does that have to do with your response to cleita's post about cheney?

[Posteritatis]

77. That is one of the more hamfisted "make a foreign news story about us" posts, isn't it? (nt)

[cliffordu]

80. Yes. Yes it is.

Actually, in the annals of hamfisted attempts to do that, the post we refer to is probably the world heavyweight champion.

Like the Sonny Liston of hamfisted attempts to hijack a thread.

[Posteritatis]

83. Hee. (nt)

[Hayabusa]

3. Wow.

What a badass.

[freshwest]

15. That she is. We'll see if that honor killing thing goes both ways...

[Thinkingabout]

4. Hey, Todd Akin, this is what could happen in legitimate rape, by the way she also got pregnant.

Women are tired of the violence and taking action.

[Tien1985]

9. The body has ways

Of just shutting the whole thing down.

[Ed Suspicious]

27. Yeah, it's called shooting him in the junk and removing his thinking head.

She shut it right the hell down.

[LeftInTX]

5. She's giving women ideas

I like that head thing.....

[Auntie Bush]

6. Good for her was my first thought.

but I feel sorry for her.

[forestpath]

10. +1

[aquart]

34. Yah.

[Apophis]

50. My first thought as well.

[rdharma]

7. "She brought the head to the town square and in front of men sitting at a coffee House"

The men present at the coffee house requested she be served DECAF!

[Notafraidtoo]

128. ROFL n/t

[Tigress DEM]

8. What Lorena Bobbit did for American women... this Turkish woman has done for Turkey.

She may suffer just consequences for going off the deep end, but some men will think more carefully about what woman they mess with and what the potential for payback might be.

I don't condone rape or murder, but when your rapist comes back to torment you... it sounds like justice to me.

[BainsBane]

13. Only Bobbit wasn't raped

Her husband had an affair. There is a BIG difference.

[Tigress DEM]

16. True. But for shock value at the time it was a big deal.

I've always thought, if you don't want to be with someone because they've done you wrong, get divorced, break up, whatever - take care of yourself.

Getting revenge or staying around to fight it out over and over never was my style.

[Schema Thing]

17. +1

wtf did Lorena Bobbit do except give us punny jokes?

[whathehell]

126. According to her she WAS raped & sexually abused many times. nt

[BainsBane]

127. I didn't realize that

In fact, I realize now I had her confused with the Buttafuoco case.

[whathehell]

129. Oh yeah, he was one violent POS.

Maybe you were thinking of the Amy Fischer/Joey B. case..That was completely different. In that case, as I remember, there was no castration, in fact I believe she shot Joey B.'s wife, not killing her, but permanently injuring her...She went to prison for that.

[stevenleser]

18. You really think adultery should be met with mutilation?

What the Turkish woman did, in my opinion, should be met with jury nullification.

Lorena Bobbit, and anyone else who, as a response to adultery, mutilates someone or cuts off arms, legs or other appendages or anything else that protrudes from the body, breasts, penis, nose, buttocks, etc. should spend 20 years in prison.

[Bonobo]

87. Yes, you DO condone murder and mutilation and terrorism. nt

[demwing]

89. Lorena Bobbit did nothing except

Give her husband a short lived porn career.

Don't make her violence heroic.

[freshwest]

11. Well, that's something you don't hear everyday.

[LittleBlue]

14. She should be given a medal, not jail

“Don’t talk behind my back, don’t play with my honor. Here is the head of the man who played with my honor.”

[smirkymonkey]

76. +10.000

Exactly. Maybe that will make men think twice before raping.

[Luminous Animal]

19. Well there you go. U.S women should cut thier rapists heads off.

[Texasgal]

21. Yes!

[Luminous Animal]

25. Really. You think that is justiice.

[Texasgal]

28. Oh please.

get over it.

Ofcourse I don't think that's justice.

It's funny. You'd love to peg me with this wouldn't you?

Ugh.

It's called sarcasm.

[Luminous Animal]

29. What's funny.

[JI7]

48. that she brought the head to some men at the coffee house

[RandySF]

30. It's the best she could hope for

against a man who raped her and threatened to blackmail her in a society where victims are truly second class.

[JI7]

42. that she brought the head to some men at a coffee house

[BainsBane]

39. In this country it's legal to kill someone taking your property

but not raping you.

[aquart]

32. One head or the other. No problem.

[cliffordu]

57. Yep. Decapitate them all.

[Prism]

20. I don't want to rec this . . .

But I don't want to unrec it either.

[Luminous Animal]

26. No suprise.

[Prism]

70. It's ok

I miss meta, too.

Lets box!

Or have a wine drink off.

Or something adult.

[Schema Thing]

22. I guess her husband was going to kill her if she didn't kill him.

[Posteritatis]

78. Or the neighbors, or the state. (nt)

[stevenleser]

24. If I was on her jury, my vote would be "Acquit/Not Guilty" this is a perfect spot for

jury nullification.

[Schema Thing]

40. I assume you'd want evidence that she was telling the truth?

[stevenleser]

41. Absolutely. The Not Guilty/Acquit vote depends on what we have been presented being established as

fact.

Should be pretty easy in this case. Amniocentesis, for instance would establish the paternity of the baby.

[Schema Thing]

43. huh? How would the paternity of the baby establish the truth of her story?

?


there's WAAAAY to much rape in this world, but there is a hell of a lot more consensual sex than there is rape.

[stevenleser]

47. That plus the picture he took? That would be enough for me. nt

[HiPointDem]

62. the guy with the 'no excuses' policy on throwing singing 82-year-old black ladies off public

transport plumps for decapitation without trial for alleged rapists.

[stevenleser]

75. Nope, I said in every post in that OP that she should not be thrown off the train. Check again.

p.s., If you want continue to argue with me about that other issue, you really should do it in that other OP, not try to hijack someone elses.

[aquart]

31. Is there a fund for her lawyer?

To bring her gourmet meals in jail?

[McDiggy]

35. ummmm....

Wow...kinda frightened by the people that think murder is okay in any circumstance, to be honest. She deserves at least the Turkish equivalent of manslaughter.

[BainsBane]

45. and if someone had entered her home to steal her TV?

In most states here there would be no punishment.

[Schema Thing]

52. Just curious why everyone accepts her story uncritically?

You have zero way of knowing from the news account if A) he was a rapist, or B) she is a common murderess (albeit with a dramatic flair).



I understand the kneejerk emotions this elicits because when I saw it I immediately went and posted it on Facebook with a "you go girl" comment... but then I got to wondering why I accepted her story?

[HiPointDem]

63. because we're being conditioned to think rape is the absolute worst thing in the world, &

justifies any and all retaliations.

and because we're being conditioned to think that islamic men are particularly prone to rape, and that islamic culture doesn't protect women who are raped.

personally, i find some aspects of her story questionable.

[BainsBane]

65. "we're conditioned to think rape is the absolute worst thing"

whereas you think it's what?

[Bonobo]

64. For the same reason that, in experiments, when people see a woman hitting a man...

They automatically assume the man did something wrong and deserves it.

[BainsBane]

66. Read the story

If she had shot someone stealing a television set, no one would give a damn. The fact is, our women sees women's lives as less valuable than inanimate objects.

What should she be able to defend her life? She's only a woman. It's not like she's important like a car or something.

[Bonobo]

67. I did, BB. nt

[BainsBane]

68. read my edited post

[Bonobo]

69. I don't understand.

First of all, if she had shot someone stealing a television and cut off his head no one would care?? Of course they would! They would be horrified at what she did.

And as to defending herself, no one is arguing that she is "only a woman and not important.

What I would ask, however, is does the person who was shot in the genitals, killed and mutilated have a right to defend himself against the charge of rape? What if he was innocent? What if she was crazy (actually it sounds like she was if she did THAT)?

Do you think it is unreasonable to even suggest that he may have been innocent of the charge? Dead men tell no tales... and he will never be able to assert his innocence because she killed him.

How can you spin this into a situation of "No on cares because women aren't important". Don't you think that is a bit reactionary and over-the-top? Honestly speaking.

[BainsBane]

71. the law cares

Law in this country enables anyone to shoot someone who enters a house to steal property, but it doesn't allow a woman to defend herself from rape with the same level of force.

You ask what if he is innocent. What if she is innocent? She is the one in jail. Just because he happens to be male doesn't mean you have to jump to his defense.

Yes, I think it virtually impossible that he was innocent because a Muslim woman is not going to claim she was raped when she wasn't. She is seen as culpable for her own rape. Why would a woman admit to that? It means a complete loss of honor for her. And It isn't going to help her one bit in the trial. There is NO reason for her to invent such a claim.

My statement reflects the situation in American law that values women less than property. That the law values television sets over a woman protecting her own body is what is OTT. Some of the comments in this thread reflect some of that same perception, albeit unconsciously.

The whole story could be manufactured for all we know. But of all things to decide not to believe, the man's being innocent of rape strikes me as the least likely. Rape is a VERY common crime.

[Schema Thing]

74. She was pregnant

She tried but failed to have an abortion. There wasn't going to any hiding it from her husband or community.


Rape is a very common crime. Consensual sex w/ someone you're not married to though, is far more common. Killing and beheading is extremely unusual.

[ProgressiveProfessor]

81. One of the reasons I oppose this latest gun control hysteria is so that women can protect themselves

Yet some here oppose effective firearms for self defense claiming they are not needed.

[BainsBane]

103. and how many women use AR-15's to protect themselves?

Most use handguns. More false propaganda.

[ProgressiveProfessor]

106. Many use handguns with more than 7 or 10 round magazines

ARs as well, but both are caught up in the hysteria

[BainsBane]

107. That speaks to the utility of shooting practice

If you need more than 10 bullets to hit a single person, you probably shouldn't have a gun.

[ProgressiveProfessor]

108. In stressfire situation, even the best have problems.

And as you yourself has pointed out, rape is about the most heinous crime one can face. Why artificially limit what is clearly the most effective defense? Not talking 100 round magazines, but the standard ones designed for that handgun...often between 13-16 rounds

[BainsBane]

110. because it facilitates mass murder

and the fact is the woman is far more likely to have the gun used against her than she is to use it against an assailant. If she wants to run that risk, that is her choice. But I'm not going to sit back while you use women as a justification for your gun propaganda.

[ProgressiveProfessor]

112. Your hypocrisy is noted

[BainsBane]

120. What hypocrisy?

What happened to pretending to support the President's plan? Oops.

[Bjorn Against]

114. I actually totally agree with what you say in this post

I just find it more than a bit ironic that you say this in the same thread that you were justifying killing someone as they were trying to escape and then chopping off their head and displaying it in the town square.

You seem to be taking two conflicting positions in the same thread.

[ProgressiveProfessor]

115. My point exactly

[BainsBane]

118. NO

I support the President's gun control measures. I believe the type of guns people can own should be limited.

I do not believe that a woman doesn't have a right to defend herself against assault. I do not hold property in higher value than the life of a woman. Nor do I think men's lives have intrinsically more value than those of women or children.

There are not contradictory positions. Murder is horrific. Rape is also horrific and a violent crime. Women should have the same rights to defend themselves against violent assault as men.

[LeftInTX]

36. I hope this story goes viral

I hope that it causes some men to shake in their boats

And I hope Amnesty International gets involved with her defense.

[undeterred]

37. A bit OTT, but he had it coming.

His head would have fallen off sooner or later anyway.

[UnrepentantLiberal]

38. Wow.

Hard core. He had it coming.

[sibelian]

44. Good idea.

Well, there ought to be trials and things but still...

[Nanjing to Seoul]

46. what all of your seem to forget is she shot him in his balls first, which apparently killed him

the beheading didn't kill this wonderful example of manhood.

While I do not condone it, I understand it. And I would vote to acquit.

[smirkymonkey]

79. +1000

My sentiments exactly.

[Eleanors38]

49. Wow! Nary a bad thing said about guns...

At a public hunt area in TX. folks who killed pigs (the 4-legged variety) would post the head on a fence. No coffee houses, so not a valid comparison.

[ProgressiveProfessor]

82. Even the high profile opponents are weighing in on her side

[Bjorn Against]

88. Not me, shooting people as they are running away is never acceptable

Mutilating them and placing their severed head in the town square to intimidate others who had nothing to do with the original crime makes this even more sickening. I think rapists should suffer serious consequences for their actions, but I sure as hell am not going to pretend this kind of vigilante justice is acceptable and I don't think anyone who believes it is acceptable should be allowed access to guns.

[dkf]

51. Well I guess all those anti gun types can be happy she got arrested for killing this bastard.

If only she had let him keep raping her she wouldn't be in jail

[XRubicon]

90. Right, who needs laws or law enforcement if we all had guns

We could cut out the middle men, think of the tax savings. No police or courts required. We could use Somalia as a model.

[Bjorn Against]

91. Actually she was not being raped at the time of the murder, she was chasing him as he ran away

This was not an act of self defense, she shot someone as he tried to run away. She claims he had raped her in the past which may or may not be true, but according to her own story he was running and she was chasing him at the time of the murder. That is not self defense.

[Brigid]

53. So Lisbeth Salander moved to Turkey?

Who knew?

[ReRe]

54. You will have to admit, this is a RARE event...

... men have been doing this and worse to their wives and children for eons. Yet when a woman can't take it anymore and does something like this, everyone thinks she went too far. Duh? Two wrongs don't make a right, but if there is no justice to be had, male or female, you go vigilante. Too bad the woman didn't have a way to get out of Turkey, away from the SOB, instead of reverting to violence.
Life sucks, all over the fucking world.

[Arcanetrance]

55. I gotta admit I think what she did was great she was screwed from the moment she was raped

In a country like turkey the law was against her from the start. If she reports the rape she's gonna be the one in trouble. If she goes along with what the guy says she would be in trouble so faced with the options of screwed and screwed why not get a bit of justice.

[Donald Ian Rankin]

72. Anyone know if she was telling the truth?

If not, I suggest reserving judgement. Although I suppose even if she is, it's still murder and needs to be prosecuted, even if she does deserve sympathy.

[Bonobo]

73. Apparently we assume she is because:

A. She is Muslim and Muslim women would never lie about rape because it would shame her to do so.

B. Also, rape is common.

A + B = C, in other words, he is guilty (and deserved to be shot in the penis and decapitated).


(NOTE: Unless she's crazy in which case you can forget about everything above. Oh, and btw she sounds pretty fucking crazy if you consider chasing down another human, shooting them in the genitals, cutting off their head (not all that easy considering the thickness of the vertebrae and THEN plopping it down on a table in front of a group of diners, crazy)

[BainsBane]

93. ever occur to you the rapist is crazy?

If you are going to respond to something I say, do so directly.

You haven't said why you assume the woman is guilty. Not only guilty now, but crazy. Evidently applying double standards don't concern you at all. If he is a Y chromosome, he needs protection against the evil women of the world.

[bettyellen]

111. Don't forget - it also shamed her horribly if she admits she was raped.

I think it's a crucial distinction- that her society gave her no good options.
If she was married, sadly her best option would be to keep her mouth shut and bear the rapists baby. Wouldn't that make you crazy?
If that didn't, imagine being blackmailed into endless years more of being raped.
I'd probably end up shooting the guy too.
The head thing, not so much.

[Bjorn Against]

85. Sorry, but what she did is sickening and no one should defend it

This was not even an act of self defense as she admits when she says "I chased him". Rapists are sick people who need to be punished, but there are just punishments and then there is this. She not only killed a man as he was running away, but she placed his head in the town square to intimidate others who probably had nothing to do with the rape. No matter what horrors she experienced in her past, there is no excuse for this sort of vigilante justice.

[BainsBane]

94. Unlike killing someone who enters your home to take

a tv set. That is perfectly acceptable.

[Bjorn Against]

95. Where did I say that was acceptable?

I sure as hell don't think it is acceptable to kill anyone for taking a tv set and never suggested anything of the sort so please stop with your stupid strawman argument.

[BainsBane]

96. the law says it's acceptable

It's not a strawman argument. In most states in this country it is legal to kill someone who enters your home to take your property, while a woman doesn't have the right to protect herself against assault.

The people here so outraged at this woman's actions don't run to criticize people shooting burglars.

[Bjorn Against]

97. I am not defending Turkish laws, and for your info I have criticized people for shooting robbers

In fact just this week on DU I criticized someone for shooting a robber...

http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1172&pid=113243

Maybe you should stop making ridiculous assumptions and realize that it is possible to be outraged both by this murder and other murders.

[BainsBane]

98. I'm talking about US law

How many months of rape and abuse must a woman submit to? Do you assert she has no right to protect herself and should just sit back and be raped as long as the man feels like it? Why is his life so much more valuable than hers?

[Bjorn Against]

99. Again stop with the strawmen arguments

Nowhere, I repeat nowhere did I suggest that a woman should sit back and allow a man to rape her as long as he feels like it. What I expressed opposition to is chasing a man down while he is running away, shooting him, cutting off his head and leaving it in the town square. Nowhere did I suggest allowing anyone to rape. Your strawmen arguments are absurd.

[BainsBane]

101. You objected to her killing him

She WAS raped for months. He DID threaten to kill her children repeatedly. Those are the facts. They are not straw men arguments. You 1) either don't know the circumstances of the case, or 2) have decided they don't matter.

[Bjorn Against]

104. That does not excuse chopping off his head and placing it in the town square

It is not self defense to chop off someone's head and place it in the town square, no matter how horrible the guy's crimes may have been it does not justify placing a severed head in a public area to intimidate others. If you think that is justified you have serious issues.

[BainsBane]

105. He was already dead when she chopped off his head

She shot him first. Chopping off a head would equate to mutilating a corpse under US law.

It certainly isn't how I would handle the situation, but I can understand the effectiveness of doing what she did. Even in this country, only 6% of rapists are punished. The whisper of being raped ruins a woman's life in some Muslim societies. Honor is no small thing. If it made some potential rapists thing twice, then it served a purpose.

I wonder how many times you would allow yourself to be assaulted until you believed defending yourself against your attacker was justified? Rape IS a VIOLENT assault. She had every moral right to defend herself.

[Bjorn Against]

109. It doesn't matter that the body was dead, it is a crime to place severed heads in the town square

Quit trying to pretend that placing a severed head in the town square to make a statement to people who had nothing to do with the rape was an act of self defense. The guy was not raping her or even threatening to rape her at the time of the attack, by her own admission she chased the guy as he was running away. She then killed him when he fell to the ground and chopped off his head to place in the town square as a warning to others. In order to claim self defense she would have to show an imminent threat, shooting a guy as he was trying to escape is not self defense no matter what the guy did to her in the past. Placing his severed head in the town square in order to intimidate others is even less of an act of self defense, it is a serious criminal act and there is no way to spin it otherwise.

[BainsBane]

116. because intimidating rapists

just shouldn't be done under any circumstances. Rapists should be made to feel completely secure in their ability to rape women at will without any repercussions.

The article does not say he wasn't trying to rape her at the time. In fact, the CNN video said he had come over to her house and she believed he was going to rape her again, like he did every other time he was there.

She's in jail. She will be imprisoned. Half of all women in Turkey will continue to face rape or domestic battery.

[Bjorn Against]

117. Please cite any evidence you have that the people in the town square were rapists

[BainsBane]

119. What makes you think they weren't?

In any random group of five men in this country, one will be a rapist. In Turkey, since rapes are more common, so are the numbers of rapists. Odds that there were no rapists are pretty remote.

This is not a court of law. It's a news story. We don't have all the facts. You've already tried and convicted her and decided it isn't self defense, with NO evidence to support your position.

[Bjorn Against]

121. So your position is that it is ok to show severed heads to random men because they might be rapists?

You don't even have to have evidence that they are rapists, just because they are men and a minority of men are rapists that is an excuse to intimidate any man she sees with a severed head? That is a pretty disturbing position if you ask me. You may want to think that one in five men are rapists but that is completely false, it is true that one in five women has been raped but that does not mean that one in five men are rapists. What it does mean is that there are some sick assholes who have raped a lot of women, but the vast majority of men have not raped anyone.

I did not convict this woman, but if the words quoted from her are accurate then there is real evidence that she committed multiple crimes. She admitted she chased the person, if she had to chase him then it was clear he was not an imminent threat and therefore it is not self defense. Sawing off the head of a dead body and displaying it in the public square is also a crime in case you did not realize. I have not convicted her nor can I convict her, but based on her statements alone there is plenty of evidence to bring her to trial.

You want to yell at me for not having evidence despite the fact that the killer admitted what she did, but you don't seem to need any evidence apart from an inaccurate one in five statistic to justify displaying severed heads to random men. That is pretty messed up if you ask me.

[BainsBane]

122. No, I don't think it's okay to run around town with chopped off heads

but I find more disturbing the widespread culture of rape and that you are so much more concerned about a fate of a rapist than the millions of women raped every year.

I don't have evidence they were rapists. Statistically chances are extremely remote than none were rapists. Here are numbers from a study of US college students:

One in 12 male students surveyed had committed acts that met the legal definition of rape.
16 percent of male students who had committed rape took part in episodes with more than one attacker's gang rape.
75 percent of male students and 55 percent of female students involved in date rape had been drunk or using drugs.*
33 percent of males surveyed said that they would commit rape if they could escape detection.**
25 percent of men surveyed believed that rape was acceptable if the woman asks the man out, the man pays for the date or the woman goes back to the man's room after the date. ***
http://rwu.edu/campus-life/health-counseling/counseling-center/sexual-assault/rape-myths-and-fac

Your argument here rapidly moves. Is her crime killing an assailant or scaring the shit out of men in the public square, including potential rapists? You began by saying she didn't act in self defense, which UNLIKE your claims, she makes quite clear that is exactly what she was doing. Now you're concerned about the poor men sitting in the village, that they might have been traumatized. One thing you have been consistent about: Your concern for men over a female rape victim.

She will be imprisoned and half of all Turkish women will continue to be raped or assaulted by their partners. You really don't need to worry about some onslaught of activity making life difficult for rapists.

[Bjorn Against]

124. I have marched in the streets to stop violence against women

Last edited Mon Mar 11, 2013, 12:03 AM - Edit history (2)

You are completely and horribly wrong for claiming I care more about a rapist than millions of women, that is dishonest and disgusting for you to make such an allegation. I have marched for women's rights and to prevent rape, I have stood shoulder to shoulder with women who have been raped and you have absolutely no business suggesting that I don't care about them.

None of the women I stood with ever severed a man's head and displayed it in the town square, it is very possible for me to oppose both rape and chopping off people's heads. If you don't understand that then you have issues.

[BainsBane]

125. Your continual insults are noted

The fact is you have had plenty of opportunity to show what concerns you here, and you have done just that.

[Bjorn Against]

131. I am concerned about violence whether it is against women or men

Don't pretend like you were not insulting in this thread, if you are going to claim I don't care about women who are raped then don't expect for me to sit silently while you try to smear me as some rape supporter. I oppose both rape and beheadings as do most sane people.

[hobbit709]

86. One thing's for sure. He WON'T do it again.

[Chalco]

100. Justifiable homicide. eom

[d_b]

102. pwnd

[smirkymonkey]

113. Sorry, he had it coming to him.

He deserved it. There is very little recourse for women in muslim countries. I can completely understand why she did this.

[Monk06]

123. She should be released and paid a cash reward for taking this scum out. Her husband's cousin for

for Christ's sake. What kind of society is it where men feel justified raping women because their husbands aren't around to protect them.

It appears rape is not just condoned in Islamic countries it is considered a man's right.

May women rise up and pile the heads high until this stops.

[whathehell]

130. That does seem a tad excessive.