Jeb Bush: 'History will be kind to my brother'

[warrior1]

No jebbie, it won't.

http://firstread.nbcnews.com/_news/2013/03/10/17257330-jeb-bush-history-will-be-kind-to-my-brother?lite

Former Florida Gov. Jeb Bush says that the public will view his older brother, former president George W. Bush, more favorably as time passes.

"In his four years as president a lot of amazing accomplishments took place," said Jeb Bush, the son of former President George H.W. Bush, during an interview on NBC's Meet the Press. "So my guess is that history will be kind to my brother, the further out you get from this and the more people compare his tenure to what's going on now."

[Katashi_itto]

1. And this guy wants to be President?

[Itchinjim]

2. Dream on, Jebby

[Auntie Bush]

7. Another Bush fool!

We've had 12 years of Bush fools. We don't need 20! Perish the thoughts. That's enough for any country.

[BlueStater]

3. No it won't, asshole.

Also, little bit of advice, Jebbie: if you're thinking about running for president in 2016, I'd remind people about the existence of your scumbag brother as little as possible.

[Arkansas Granny]

4. In his dreams, maybe.

[Mnemosyne]

5. Only if one of your educational companies writes the book. pos nt

[undeterred]

6. Maybe history will say he finally learned to do something well after he left the White House

and it will be painting those dog pictures.

[Silent3]

8. "In his four years as president..."

Four? Has Jeb forgotten that we had to endure his brother for eight years, not just four?

And if that's what Jeb really said, not a misquote, why doesn't the article take him to task for it?

[CurtEastPoint]

9. I was wondering that as well. It was eight... eight looooong years.

[Angry Dragon]

14. He just forgot to mention President Cheney

[sofa king]

36. He took four years off.

W took nearly a thousand days of vacation in eight years, almost one-third of his time, and didn't work weekends, either. Though there is certainly some overlap between his nearly three years of vacation and two years of weekends, a guess that fifty percent of Bush's days in office were working days is probably pretty solid.

It occurs to me that we would have been better off had Bush worked more, because nothing he had a hand in actually worked, while many of the evil machinations of his subordinates worked quite well indeed.

If he had smeared his imprimatur on their work, too, it wouldn't have succeeded as well as it did.

[kimbutgar]

54. Obviously fox did not get this info according to them

All president Obama does is play golf, goes to Hawaii, and has taken the most time off of any president.

[Cleita]

60. Bush's first term wasn't legitimate because the Supreme Court appointed him.

Is Jeb acknowledging that in his own way?

[CatWoman]

73. that's what I was thinking

and everything went down in Jeb's state, while he was governor

[fishwax]

65. he was referring to his father's term

I assume it was in the context of comparing how his father was perceived at the time (badly enough to lose his re-election bid) to how one might view his term now. (Note to jeb: he still wouldn't win re-election )



And then transitioning from that to the assertion that, similarly, the passage of time will make w's term seem less horrible. (Note to jeb: it won't. )

[Drunken Irishman]

79. His father is still judged as a shitty president, tho.

I don't know anyone who says, "now that George H.W. Bush was a pretty good president!"

He has helped his image as a person since leaving the White House, but certainly hasn't helped the image of his presidency. He'll always be remembered as a one-term president who was in office during an economic recession. The best he can hope for, really, is being considered an average president. I don't think, with everything that happened to his son, that Bush can hope for that.

[fishwax]

80. well, yes of course, in the reality-based community. But this was Jeb Bush talking.

[Drunken Irishman]

76. Because in the Republicans minds, Bush's second term never happened.

Everything from 2005-2009 was all Obama's fault.

Iraq going into full-on quagmire? Didn't happen under Bush.
The economy going into full-on meltdown? Didn't happen under Bush.
The financial market full-on crashing? Didn't happen under Bush.
Katrina? Never happened under Bush.

[LiberalFighter]

81. Is he admitting that his brother wasn't elected in 2000?

[llmart]

10. Why oh why is this jackass.....

being quoted in so many recent articles? I and millions of others are tired of hearing anything from the Bush crime family. Go away and let the rest of us try to recover from what your stupid brother did to ruin our country.

[Cleita]

62. He's being propped up for a run for President in 2016. That's why

our propaganda media is spreading all the astroturf.

[tularetom]

11. It's already kind to him

He's still walking around free instead of sitting his sorry ass in jail where he belongs.

BTW Jeb doesn't look like he's missed many meals lately. By 2016 you won't be able to tell him from Chris Christie.

[kenny blankenship]

25. Indeed RECENT history has been VERY kind to him

It has largely covered up and even continued most of his mistakes and crimes. And as you say, he's skipping around free and easy when he should be facing trial in multiple jurisdictions. Not Bush himself, but all of his co-conspirators have surfaced in public, claiming the work of the present Occupant validates their own policies.

No doubt, capital H history will look back on the Bush years as a kind of wicked "Bend At The End" of the USA, as an inflection point, and not one portending that "the best was yet to come". However, given the Bush Administration's love of secrecy, which was remarked upon BEFORE 9-11 took place, (reclassifying documents and refusing to release documents of previous administrations, like his father's, which were by law supposed to enter the public domain) and, also, given how that maniacal obsession with closed and unaccountable government has continued and even increased in Bush's post-2008 shadow, one wonders what materials future historians will manage to access and preserve with which to write their appraisals? Historical accounts of dark ages are largely speculative yarns threading together sparse and thin materials; the gaps in the final garment may span decades, and entire limbs may be omitted.

[Laura PourMeADrink]

34. true ! Stupid Jail

[Victor_c3]

12. I believe the opposite

History will look at Iraq, Afghanistan, and his tax policies as a larger and larger mistake.

[Sunlei]

13. only if you rewrite the shrubs history book with lies galor

or kill the internet.

Hope all you Shrubs were out there 'clearing brush' on the 'family ranch'. Breathed deep,exposed to the mega doses of weed killer/brush killer.

[Warren Stupidity]

15. Even his own party has given him the Nixon. Nt.

[ananda]

16. LOL

Only a completely revised history would be kind to Dubya.

But that's what the Reep educationists do best, int it?

[BeyondGeography]

17. In fact, it will be increasingly unkind

Tax cuts that were unproductive and unaffordable; asleep at the regulatory switch while Wall St. Joined forces with mortgage lenders to nearly destroy the economy (make that "destroy&quot ; lying his way into Iraq. Half of the $17 trillion debt can be traced to Junior. A staggering achievement..."All the Wrong Moves" will be the film title.

[magellan]

18. Maybe in an alternative reality

In this one? Not happening.

[NRaleighLiberal]

19. "a lot of amazing accomplishments took place" - true, if amazing means amazingly horrible

as in beyond belief bottom of the barrel horrendous, regrettable, and unforgivable.

[lame54]

20. The present is already overly kind to him

[KansDem]

21. Your brother is a liar and a mass murderer...

On top of that, he's a fool and the biggest dumb shit to walk the planet.

So, f*c* o*f, Jeb!

[heather blossom]

22. delusional

Jeb is delusional. When will this family go away? His son is running for political office in Texas, he just hasn't decided which office he is entitled to.


http://www.wfaa.com/news/politics/George-P-Bush-takes-stage-at-GOP-fundraiser-196725001.html

[Baitball Blogger]

23. Not unless the zombie apocalypse takes centrists and lefties first.

[senseandsensibility]

24. No words. These two images will suffice...

[malaise]

26. In your fugging dreams Jeb

[BellaLuna]

27. Considering what Texas has done to school books

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that is probably truth there.

Jeb is definitely on a crusade to improve W's legacy. Like they did with Reagan after he left office.

[tjwash]

28. "in his four years as president"

At least he got that part correct...Freudian -slip?

[peace13]

29. Which four years is that Jebby?

The fact tat his ass is not in jail is more kindness than he deserves!

[Jeff In Milwaukee]

30. Neil? Marvin?

Because twenty years from now, without the constant distortions of the right-wing media, W is going to be viewed even harsher than he is today (which is saying something, since even the right-wing media doesn't support him any more).

[stevenleser]

31. Yeah Jebbie, I think you should tell 'W' he should fly to Europe to clear up any misconceptions.

I'll even spring for the airfare.

[MurrayDelph]

32. "Kind" compared to what?

If he defines "kind" as meaning that history will show him to be a lazy, incompetent buffoon, willing to cede his power to the evil within his administration vs being actively evil himself, then maybe.

[pink-o]

33. Notice he doesn't name a specific "accomplishment" from those "4" years...

And yet, I can come up with a litany of epic fail without using 99% of my brain power..

Even before 9/11 (a failure to keep Americans safe that his better Machiavellis parlayed into victory) there was Enron. After 911: well, take your pick. Iraq, Katrina, Tora Bora.....

[WinkyDink]

35. The Bush Family comprises criminals (as in: arrested), liars, thieves (S&L), war-mongers, and

traitors.

And possibly assassination plot co-conspirators (JFK; Reagan).

BUT THE SIGNIFICANT ASPECT TO JEB'S COMMENT IS----JEB IS MAKING IT.

ON MTP. GET IT?

Trying to "catapult the propaganda" and rehabilitate Dubya in preparation for Jeb 45: 2016.

Expect this to be the predominant theme in the next year at a minimum on FOX and in comments by prominent Republicans.

[baldguy]

37. He's right. W won't be remembered as the demented sociopathic clown he really is.

The Coup of 2000 will never be described as such. Our grandchildren will never be taught that 9/11 was, by far the worst failure of Presidential leadership in American history. The Great Recession of 2009 will never be connected to 35yrs of failed Republican economic policies. The lies that got us into Iraq will never be pinned on the Bush Regime.

So, Jeb is correct when he says that history will be kind to W. Otherwise he would have been forced to flee the country for fear of being lynched & live in exile.

[Coyotl]

38. Step One. Admit you have a problem.

O.K., one member of the family has taken one step.

"In his four years as president..." ???? "Houston, we have a problem," was a common phone call for eight years!

[librechik]

39. Yeah, they'll say he was stupid and easily manipulated rather than evil

that's about the best they will do for that asshole.

Amazing accomplishments? He took what was left of our democracy and dragged it in the slime of lies and torture. He took extraordinary steps to shame and humiliate us, and institute tyranny.

That amazed me, all right.

[tanyev]

40. Only in that he'll probably never be prosecuted for war crimes.

[RevStPatrick]

41. Last night Sweetie and I were discussing the good things Dubya did...

He moved daylight savings time up a few weeks.
(that's what started the conversation)

There was something about AIDS in Africa, putting money into helping that problem.

And... the Do Not Call List.

That's it.
Everything else about his presidency was a total frikkin' disaster.
And no matter what Jeb might say (ain't free speech a wonderful thing? you can say any damn thing you want!) most people see what a disaster Dubya was.

[AzDar]

42. Dim and Dimmer. Sorry WaterHead...your whole family is a cancer.

And the American Electorate won't forget it....

[libodem]

43. Delusional

We are still in a self imposed return to a "dark age" of suppression of reason and enlightenment, from that doltish wanker. We may never be re-elevated to critical thinking and new inventions. We have all become drones of a lemming sort, sniffing each others' asses off the cliff, of free thinking.

[ellie]

44. hahahahahahahahaha

hahahahahahahahahahaha

[Tikki]

45. No it won't; will be indifferent to your dad, yawn, and nonexistent for you...

Tikki

[guardian]

46. Yeah

eventually history will forget he existed.

[KharmaTrain]

47. Dubya Only Made Hoover And Harding Look Better...

The two things georgie dubya will be remembered for are an illegal dirty war and the collapse of the banks and economy. Usually a President is "lucky" not to have one of the two happen...dubya did that and more. As long as people have living memories...dubya will be viewed as a failed president...among the worst...for decades to come...

[Life Long Dem]

48. Worst President Ever.

[kairos12]

84. +10,000

[grasswire]

49. even the Freepers hate the Bushes

So I don't think there's much chance of rehabilitation.

[spanone]

50. no jeb, history will expose your brother more than our current govt or the media

and it will not be kind.....trust me on this one, asshole.

[Blue4Texas]

51. He's dreaming

Also called denial

[Ruby the Liberal]

52. I agree with Jeb.

If history only records W as an unmitigated disaster and the Worst President Ever, then history will have been kind.

[2pooped2pop]

53. Of course history will be kind. No one would believe the truth.

No one would believe that we allowed this fool the office of U.S. President.

[Agnosticsherbet]

55. So far he is right. History has been incredibly kind.

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I don't see any indication that will change.

[Dawson Leery]

56. THE WORST PRESIDENT!

[Initech]

57. Since there is no liberal media, he might be right.

[aint_no_life_nowhere]

58. Few Americans now remember Nero or Caligula

Oblivion is the kindest thing Bush can expect from history.

[Cleita]

59. Deluded asshole.

History will not be kind to any of the BFEE including him and his cretin brother.

[Rosa Luxemburg]

61. When he is jailed?

I doubt it

[sakabatou]

63. Jeb must be deluded

[ismnotwasm]

64. No it won't

It's being kinder to Nixon lately, ignores all the shitty crap Reagan did, but Bush W. and co? I don't see that happening

What accomplishments? 'Mission Accomplished'? That asshole.

[Kingofalldems]

66. 911 happened after his brother was warned.

[Still Blue in PDX]

67. In other words, it will call him stupid instead of evil.

I've always felt that Bush was far smarter than he pretended to be, in a sly, cunning sort of way.

Though not a believer in Judao-Christian dogma, I really do love the idea of Bush, Cheny, Rove, et al, spending eternity in a special level of hell designed just for them.

[napkinz]

68. Bush's Brain ...

[Hotler]

69. Go fuck yourself Jeb. Your brother is a shit stain. n/t

[TheDebbieDee]

85. W is a shit-stain that MUST and will eventually be scrubbed from the fabric of history!

Unfortunately, the way the repukes in Texas are re-writing American history in school textbooks by;
eliminating references to the attempted genocide of the Native Americans by the Europeans,
obscuring the true reasons/causes of the Civil War.

These history books will gloss-over the fact that even though we have an African-American President, there is still much-denied existence of white-priviledge and institutionalized racism in America.

I'll bet $ to donuts that history books will never mention the big dispute that exists because weapons of mass destruction were never found in Iraq or that Valerie Plame was exposed as an operative because her job was to prevent the movement of wmd-making materials into Iraq.

There is so much that we know today that our small children and grand-children will never know because history is being re-written as we speak/post.

W just might be a Saint by 2020.

[lpbk2713]

70. The Jebster is counting on time healing all wounds.

The thing about Shit-for-Brains is the damage he caused will last for generations.
So Jebbie, don't count on people forgiving and forgetting in the foreseeable future.
The Bush name will have a taint about it for a long time to come.

[rurallib]

71. maybe if he had been president, but that Cheney guy stole it from him

and cheney was a bad president.

[aint_no_life_nowhere]

72. "...the more people compare his tenure to what's going on now..."

So Jeb thinks Obama will end his second term in infamy compared to the fetid Chimp? Them's not only fightin' words, but them's insane words. Suggesting that the first African American President will be universally reviled to the point where he won't even be invited to his party's own 2016 convention and his name will completely become taboo is just INSANE on Jeb's part. To me, it's the most insane part of that statement. And of course David Gregory just sits by with an idiotic smile on his face and doesn't challenge that statement at all.

[Squinch]

74. ...in the sense that even bad press is good press....

[polynomial]

75. Host David Gregory on MSNBC give a preposterous outfited big wet kiss to Jeb Bush

Please you must understand that from my view there is no axe to grind towards the Bush family. Although if Jeb Bush would be elected president it be highly and likely that most of this internet space will disappear.

Most of what Americans know about the Bush family being war profiteers in crime is true. That is going back to grandpa Prescott Bush funding the Nazi party to power. The media that are MSNBC, CNN, and the great Fox know the criminal shenanigans that have taken place over the decades. Yet the Congress, Senate, and the media take the pay offs. It’s obvious the heads of those business entities know the Bush family has been business partners with the Bin Laden family for generations. For Bush to go after Osama Bin Laden is laughable with a real streak of treason.

It was very laughable to watch Mr. Gregory interview Jeb without saying is there a war you might like? Of course, that whole crazy team comes back or perhaps another plane is ignored to be hijacked and dives into the new World trade center pissing off everyone. Then Jeb could go to the top of the rubble with his bull horn electrifying everyone to tell America we will smoke em out dead or alive. Its funny how George stumbled through that famous quote “Fool me once fool me twice”.

My take on that is obvious, for those who have ever wondered what the quote "Fool me once, shame on you. Fool me twice, shame on me" means, there are many interpretations.

In other words, this is another way of saying "once bitten, twice shy." there are people out there who are not what they seem. Some people will be pretend friendship for all of the wrong reasons, such as for money, or something else that can benefit, like power.
The Bush family got it all the first and second time then if America is dumb enough to vote in a Bush for a third time then it must be true the Demon Hugo Chavez talked about.

For a simple man like Chavez saw that America will never have a Golden Age as long as the Bush family is successful in politics. The Bush must be banished from American politics. If it means taking down all that are complicit with them, then so be it.

[JDPriestly]

77. No. Sorry. George W. Bush was never qualified

to be president and he shouldn't have run.

He took on more than he could handle.

He fought two wars including one in which he was the invader, the law-breaker, the aggressor and one in which, against a nation of relatively poorly armed villagers, he could not gain any advantage.

He violated the Fourth Amendment rights of Americans, neglected to stay abreast of terrorist threats, agreed to torture prisoners at least one of whom was completely innocent and kidnapped based on a false identification, . . . . The list goes on and on.

The presidency is a grave responsibility. Bush was a fool and an amateur.

Best not to talk about your brother, Jeb. Let sleeping dogs lie. You only make it worse.

And forget about running yourself. Your dad and your brother both ended their terms with an economy that was awful. It's just time to sit back and enjoy your money and your family. Please leave America alone. We have had enough Bush bunglers for the rest of eternity.

[Cha]

78. jebster's out on his Bush-al of LIES tour. n/m

[Fire Walk With Me]

82. Oh, he didn't mean Neal Bush, destroyer of the Silverado savings and loan?

Never forget Neal Bush.

[lpbk2713]

89. You mean the sex tourist?

That's only one of many things he has in common with OxyRush.

[MelungeonWoman]

83. Uh, sure Jeb. History WILL be kind to your brother.

If Marvin prints the history books.

[MFM008]

86. yes history will be kind to W

[Aristus]

87. Only the kind of history taught in Louisiana...

[frogmarch]

88. He probably meant

Neil or Marvin. History will kindly forget those two.

[MyshkinCommaPrince]

90. Translation:

"Conservatives will ultimately win and will report history according to their viewpoint."

[W T F]

91. Just as long as Fox "News" is there to re-write it.

[Dpm12]

92. With all the shit your

"big brother" pulled, history will not be kind to his murdering, unsympathetic ass. You are scum as well fro being related to him. Don't fucking run for president.

[L0oniX]

93. ...and Tv won't be kind to either of you assholes either.

online shows here: http://www.tv.com/shows/lil-bush/

[raccoon]

94. I don't think so. nt

[cbrer]

95. True Statement...

Mother Fucker's not in prison where he deserves to be!

[jwirr]

96. Name them.

[Downtown Hound]

97. They've been saying this for about a decade now

It ain't happened yet.

[Iggo]

98. That's bullshit and he knows it.