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Fourth Circle of Hell (Original Post)
BainsBane
Mar 2013
OP
Back in high school when cylons were still obviously robots, I had a few 4th circle classes.
talkingmime
Mar 2013
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kairos12
(12,856 posts)1. Dante would agree
BainsBane
(53,031 posts)2. I tried to keep it accurate
As much as I wanted to put them in the 9th circle, it didn't quite fit.
talkingmime
(2,173 posts)3. Back in high school when cylons were still obviously robots, I had a few 4th circle classes.
BainsBane
(53,031 posts)6. What does that mean?
talkingmime
(2,173 posts)10. "4th circle" (reference to Hell) - and class means exactly that.
BainsBane
(53,031 posts)11. I don't know why I had trouble
understanding that the first time. Brain freeze, I guess.
Mnemosyne
(21,363 posts)4. K&R nt
BarackTheVote
(938 posts)5. I figured they'd be somewhere in the Malbolge
Yeah, they're greedy, but also treacherous.
BainsBane
(53,031 posts)7. I read it as betraying someone close to you
But I definitely think they deserve lower than four. My own version of hell would differ from Dante's. Pedophiles deserve a special ring all to themselves.
ismnotwasm
(41,976 posts)8. LOL
Had to look it up though, I never remember.
Avarice--greed, lust for material gain--is one of the iniquities that most incurs Dante's scornful wrath. Consistent with the biblical saying that avarice is "the root of all evils" (1 Timothy 6:10), medieval Christian thought viewed the sin as most offensive to the spirit of love; Dante goes even further in blaming avarice for ethical and political corruption in his society. Ciacco identifies avarice--along with pride and envy--as one of the primary vices enflaming Florentine hearts (Inf. 6.74-5), and the poet consistently condemns greed and its effects throughout the Divine Comedy. Dante accordingly shows no mercy--unlike his attitude toward Francesca (lust) and Ciacco (gluttony)--in his selection of avarice as the capital sin punished in the fourth circle of hell (Inferno 7). He viciously presents the sin as a common vice of monks and church leaders (including cardinals and popes), and he further degrades the sinners by making them so physically squalid that they are unrecognizable to the travelers (Inf. 7.49-54). By defining the sin as "spending without measure" (7.42), Dante for the first time applies the classical principle of moderation (or the "golden mean" to criticize excessive desire for a neutral object in both one direction ("closed fists": avarice) and the other (spending too freely: prodigality). Fittingly, these two groups punish and insult one another in the afterlife.
http://danteworlds.laits.utexas.edu/circle4.html
BainsBane
(53,031 posts)9. Monastaries and convents acted as bankers
during Dante's era. So the parallel is apt.