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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsWent to Cabelas this afternoon, every single caliber of handgun ammo was sold out.
The f---ing morons think ammo is going to be banned. This is the best thing ever happened to the firearms and ammo industry.
Initech
(100,043 posts)wercal
(1,370 posts)Let's see....Representative Linda Sanchez is pushing for a 10% tax on gun purchases.
Legislation to tax guns or bullets has been introduced in Maryland, Massachusetts, Nevada, New Jersey, Californoa, and Washington.
The California bill would be a nickel per bullet...for .22 LR, that's an 180% tax.
The Mass bill proposal is a 25% tax on guns and ammunition.
The Maryland bill is a 50% tax....and annual gun registration fee.
Nevada has a bill with a 2 cent per bullet tax....around 80% on .22 LR.
New Jersey is looking at a 5%-20% ammuntion tax.
I can't imagine why there has been panic buying of ammunition, huh?
Initech
(100,043 posts)I highly doubt a good majority of these bills will gain traction.
wercal
(1,370 posts)"I highly doubt a good majority of these bills will gain traction."
It might just be possible that the misinformed panicked masses think there is a slight possibility that some of these bills will indeed get passed. I dunno, if some of the most populated states and the US Senate are considering gun/ammo tax bills, am I that CRAZY to suppose that the price and availability of ammunition might change in the near future?
Its a neat trick:
1) Be in favor of ammo taxes
2) Call those who worry about said taxes 'misinformed'...because they 'probably won't pass'.
Initech
(100,043 posts)doc03
(35,300 posts)bet it is not a state that ever would pass any such law, you are just here to carry water for the gun lobby.
wercal
(1,370 posts)Good grief. It doesn't matter what state I live in....the proposed legislation that causes panic buying will cause shortages nation-wide.
You wanna know why I'm so sure?
Because it has already caused panic buying and shortages...even in my neck of the woods - Kansas.
Prove me wrong - go to Wal-Mart or any of the on-line outlets and buy .22lr for less than double the normal price.......................................
......................and I'll buy it off you for triple, and consider it a great deal. As I type this, I am negotiations with a guy (in Kansas of course) to buy .22lr from him at $85 a box (600% markup)...if I drive 120 miles round trip to get it. So, I think you might be very, very, very wrong - it doesn't matter what legislation is or isn't passed in Kansas, I'm still affected by what's going on elsewhere.
Thanks for the baseless accusation, btw.
doc03
(35,300 posts)nationally, especially in the state of West Virginia.
kairos12
(12,843 posts)NightWatcher
(39,343 posts)I saw a toon with that caption.
I saw the same at Gander Mountain last month. The crazies are paying way too much these days and the price isn't slowing them. It's stopped me from buying any ammo.
llmart
(15,534 posts)Truer words have never been spoken.
HubertHeaver
(2,520 posts)That stuff really doesn't last forever. The older it is the more likely it is to "hang-fire" or "miss-fire".
ProgressiveProfessor
(22,144 posts)I have WWII era rounds that are doing just fine
derby378
(30,252 posts)I have a couple of boxes of corrosive ammo that'll easily last for a century or more, but it's hell on the rifle that uses it - you'll need to clean the barrel and internals frequently if you use that stuff, or the salts will eat into everything.
Most of my ammo, however, is non-corrosive. Good for about 20 years or so, but a lot easier on the rifle.
freshwest
(53,661 posts)But some may think it'll last like their 20-year rations will. Except most of what is sold to them is half that age or more. Panic seldom, if ever, leads to wisdom.
oldhippie
(3,249 posts).... that still fires just fine. It just depends how it is stored. The ammo I buy now should last my life and my son's life. I'm not really worried about shelf life of .22LR. (Although the boxes might deteriorate.)
n2doc
(47,953 posts)One would think the manufacturers would be having a field day.
upaloopa
(11,417 posts)Obama is going to take your guns and ammo!
Ca Ching Ca Ching Ca Ching all the way to the bank.
Mopar151
(9,975 posts)I have friends at Ruger.. Business is roaring, but any new hires are temps, and a lot is being outsourced ("jobbed out" .
Paul E Ester
(952 posts)What do you see happening to the price of .40 and 9mm over the next few years?
Leslie Valley
(310 posts)To me they're the Walmart or Best Buy of sporting goods. Just another "big box" wrecking the small business people and the people working there don't know what they're talking about for the most part.
I always trade at my local mom and pop shop where the knowledge and service are much better, and they haven't been out of anything that I've ever needed.
Support your local shop, the money stays in the community.
lpbk2713
(42,742 posts)The arms and ammo mfgrs are greasing their palms generously
under the table to keep the flames of hysteria burning.
The Straight Story
(48,121 posts)Democrat presidents are linked to more people getting guns because people think they will create somewhat of a prohibition - it is like how others think republicans will roll back abortion laws/medical pot laws/contraception/etc.
In short - each side fears the government removing something they feel they should be allowed to own/do. Funding/Donations/purchasing/etc most likely increase for certain organizations/sales go up/etc based on which party holds how much power.
If all sides were to just accept the fact that people are not going to give up certain things and instead spend their time working on the economy/helping people in general we would probably see a leveling out of things over time.
If someone said they were going to ban cigarettes (the won't ban cigars/pipes because rich people smoke those) I am guessing, even if they did not succeed, sales would go through the roof (like they did when obama raised taxes insanely high on rolling tobacco - stores here were sold out because it was going from $20/bag to $65/bag).
bluestate10
(10,942 posts)buy. And it will take only one bullet from someone that they know to kill some of the bullet buyers. Look for a Spring of increased murders by a family member and suicides. The good information recently is that the majority of americans, 66%, don't own or want to own a gun.
derby378
(30,252 posts)My ammo box is loaded up and ready to go while everyone else is scouring the shelves looking for overpriced bullets.
Two years ago, a box of 25 rifle cartridges for my gun would cost around $7. Now the price has jumped to $25-30. Fortunately, I'm good on bullets and have no need to participate in the feeding frenzy.
That's because good Democrats keep an eye on the future.
kelliekat44
(7,759 posts)Think we can all hang on until Obama is out of office. This is what it is all about...