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Went to Cabelas this afternoon, every single caliber of handgun ammo was sold out. (Original Post) doc03 Mar 2013 OP
Keeping them afraid and misinformed = $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$ Initech Mar 2013 #1
Somebody is misinformed.... wercal Mar 2013 #8
As long as the NRA and the take our guns mentality is still around... Initech Mar 2013 #10
Counter-argument wercal Mar 2013 #12
Oh don't get me wrong I'm 110% for taxing ammo and tightening laws. Initech Mar 2013 #13
You don't say where you are from in your profile I would doc03 Mar 2013 #24
Hey officer Krupke..... wercal Mar 2013 #26
Anyone with any intelligence knows that nothing like that will ever be passed doc03 Mar 2013 #23
Idiot Fox Zombie Pod People kairos12 Mar 2013 #2
It's the 5th Annual Obama's Coming For Your Guns sale NightWatcher Mar 2013 #3
A fool and his money are soon parted. llmart Mar 2013 #4
Do they (the buying public) realize that ammo does have a shelf-life? HubertHeaver Mar 2013 #5
Depends how its stored ProgressiveProfessor Mar 2013 #11
The primer makes a difference, too derby378 Mar 2013 #20
I did not know that but it makes sense. Humidity or temperature could affect it. freshwest Mar 2013 #16
Really? I have ammo older than I am (64) ..... oldhippie Mar 2013 #19
I wonder how much of America's GDP is going towards ammo and guns? n2doc Mar 2013 #6
The manufacturers play gun owners like a fiddle. upaloopa Mar 2013 #7
And the manufacturers know this is a bubble... Mopar151 Mar 2013 #21
Do you think ammo will be more or less expensive in six months? Paul E Ester Mar 2013 #9
I won't shop at Cabelas Leslie Valley Mar 2013 #14
The RW AM Radio Hatemongers are probably being well compensated. lpbk2713 Mar 2013 #15
Well let's think about this way The Straight Story Mar 2013 #17
Ammo manufacturers are smiling ear to ear. They will simply make more ammo for the fools to bluestate10 Mar 2013 #18
Actually, I bought all my ammo a long time before Sandy Hook derby378 Mar 2013 #22
Waiting for the coming revolution...it won't take much to spark it...drones and all. kelliekat44 Mar 2013 #25

wercal

(1,370 posts)
8. Somebody is misinformed....
Sun Mar 10, 2013, 05:19 PM
Mar 2013

Let's see....Representative Linda Sanchez is pushing for a 10% tax on gun purchases.

Legislation to tax guns or bullets has been introduced in Maryland, Massachusetts, Nevada, New Jersey, Californoa, and Washington.

The California bill would be a nickel per bullet...for .22 LR, that's an 180% tax.

The Mass bill proposal is a 25% tax on guns and ammunition.

The Maryland bill is a 50% tax....and annual gun registration fee.

Nevada has a bill with a 2 cent per bullet tax....around 80% on .22 LR.

New Jersey is looking at a 5%-20% ammuntion tax.

I can't imagine why there has been panic buying of ammunition, huh?

Initech

(100,043 posts)
10. As long as the NRA and the take our guns mentality is still around...
Sun Mar 10, 2013, 05:28 PM
Mar 2013

I highly doubt a good majority of these bills will gain traction.

wercal

(1,370 posts)
12. Counter-argument
Sun Mar 10, 2013, 05:41 PM
Mar 2013

"I highly doubt a good majority of these bills will gain traction."

It might just be possible that the misinformed panicked masses think there is a slight possibility that some of these bills will indeed get passed. I dunno, if some of the most populated states and the US Senate are considering gun/ammo tax bills, am I that CRAZY to suppose that the price and availability of ammunition might change in the near future?

Its a neat trick:

1) Be in favor of ammo taxes

2) Call those who worry about said taxes 'misinformed'...because they 'probably won't pass'.

doc03

(35,300 posts)
24. You don't say where you are from in your profile I would
Mon Mar 11, 2013, 11:05 PM
Mar 2013

bet it is not a state that ever would pass any such law, you are just here to carry water for the gun lobby.

wercal

(1,370 posts)
26. Hey officer Krupke.....
Wed Mar 13, 2013, 04:52 PM
Mar 2013

Good grief. It doesn't matter what state I live in....the proposed legislation that causes panic buying will cause shortages nation-wide.

You wanna know why I'm so sure?

Because it has already caused panic buying and shortages...even in my neck of the woods - Kansas.

Prove me wrong - go to Wal-Mart or any of the on-line outlets and buy .22lr for less than double the normal price.......................................

......................and I'll buy it off you for triple, and consider it a great deal. As I type this, I am negotiations with a guy (in Kansas of course) to buy .22lr from him at $85 a box (600% markup)...if I drive 120 miles round trip to get it. So, I think you might be very, very, very wrong - it doesn't matter what legislation is or isn't passed in Kansas, I'm still affected by what's going on elsewhere.

Thanks for the baseless accusation, btw.

doc03

(35,300 posts)
23. Anyone with any intelligence knows that nothing like that will ever be passed
Mon Mar 11, 2013, 11:02 PM
Mar 2013

nationally, especially in the state of West Virginia.

NightWatcher

(39,343 posts)
3. It's the 5th Annual Obama's Coming For Your Guns sale
Sun Mar 10, 2013, 04:33 PM
Mar 2013

I saw a toon with that caption.

I saw the same at Gander Mountain last month. The crazies are paying way too much these days and the price isn't slowing them. It's stopped me from buying any ammo.

HubertHeaver

(2,520 posts)
5. Do they (the buying public) realize that ammo does have a shelf-life?
Sun Mar 10, 2013, 05:10 PM
Mar 2013

That stuff really doesn't last forever. The older it is the more likely it is to "hang-fire" or "miss-fire".

derby378

(30,252 posts)
20. The primer makes a difference, too
Sun Mar 10, 2013, 07:15 PM
Mar 2013

I have a couple of boxes of corrosive ammo that'll easily last for a century or more, but it's hell on the rifle that uses it - you'll need to clean the barrel and internals frequently if you use that stuff, or the salts will eat into everything.

Most of my ammo, however, is non-corrosive. Good for about 20 years or so, but a lot easier on the rifle.

freshwest

(53,661 posts)
16. I did not know that but it makes sense. Humidity or temperature could affect it.
Sun Mar 10, 2013, 06:56 PM
Mar 2013

But some may think it'll last like their 20-year rations will. Except most of what is sold to them is half that age or more. Panic seldom, if ever, leads to wisdom.

 

oldhippie

(3,249 posts)
19. Really? I have ammo older than I am (64) .....
Sun Mar 10, 2013, 07:06 PM
Mar 2013

.... that still fires just fine. It just depends how it is stored. The ammo I buy now should last my life and my son's life. I'm not really worried about shelf life of .22LR. (Although the boxes might deteriorate.)

n2doc

(47,953 posts)
6. I wonder how much of America's GDP is going towards ammo and guns?
Sun Mar 10, 2013, 05:13 PM
Mar 2013

One would think the manufacturers would be having a field day.

upaloopa

(11,417 posts)
7. The manufacturers play gun owners like a fiddle.
Sun Mar 10, 2013, 05:15 PM
Mar 2013

Obama is going to take your guns and ammo!

Ca Ching Ca Ching Ca Ching all the way to the bank.

Mopar151

(9,975 posts)
21. And the manufacturers know this is a bubble...
Sun Mar 10, 2013, 07:18 PM
Mar 2013

I have friends at Ruger.. Business is roaring, but any new hires are temps, and a lot is being outsourced ("jobbed out&quot .

 

Paul E Ester

(952 posts)
9. Do you think ammo will be more or less expensive in six months?
Sun Mar 10, 2013, 05:26 PM
Mar 2013

What do you see happening to the price of .40 and 9mm over the next few years?

 

Leslie Valley

(310 posts)
14. I won't shop at Cabelas
Sun Mar 10, 2013, 06:47 PM
Mar 2013

To me they're the Walmart or Best Buy of sporting goods. Just another "big box" wrecking the small business people and the people working there don't know what they're talking about for the most part.

I always trade at my local mom and pop shop where the knowledge and service are much better, and they haven't been out of anything that I've ever needed.

Support your local shop, the money stays in the community.

lpbk2713

(42,742 posts)
15. The RW AM Radio Hatemongers are probably being well compensated.
Sun Mar 10, 2013, 06:52 PM
Mar 2013



The arms and ammo mfgrs are greasing their palms generously
under the table to keep the flames of hysteria burning.

The Straight Story

(48,121 posts)
17. Well let's think about this way
Sun Mar 10, 2013, 07:02 PM
Mar 2013

Democrat presidents are linked to more people getting guns because people think they will create somewhat of a prohibition - it is like how others think republicans will roll back abortion laws/medical pot laws/contraception/etc.

In short - each side fears the government removing something they feel they should be allowed to own/do. Funding/Donations/purchasing/etc most likely increase for certain organizations/sales go up/etc based on which party holds how much power.

If all sides were to just accept the fact that people are not going to give up certain things and instead spend their time working on the economy/helping people in general we would probably see a leveling out of things over time.

If someone said they were going to ban cigarettes (the won't ban cigars/pipes because rich people smoke those) I am guessing, even if they did not succeed, sales would go through the roof (like they did when obama raised taxes insanely high on rolling tobacco - stores here were sold out because it was going from $20/bag to $65/bag).

bluestate10

(10,942 posts)
18. Ammo manufacturers are smiling ear to ear. They will simply make more ammo for the fools to
Sun Mar 10, 2013, 07:05 PM
Mar 2013

buy. And it will take only one bullet from someone that they know to kill some of the bullet buyers. Look for a Spring of increased murders by a family member and suicides. The good information recently is that the majority of americans, 66%, don't own or want to own a gun.

derby378

(30,252 posts)
22. Actually, I bought all my ammo a long time before Sandy Hook
Sun Mar 10, 2013, 07:18 PM
Mar 2013

My ammo box is loaded up and ready to go while everyone else is scouring the shelves looking for overpriced bullets.

Two years ago, a box of 25 rifle cartridges for my gun would cost around $7. Now the price has jumped to $25-30. Fortunately, I'm good on bullets and have no need to participate in the feeding frenzy.

That's because good Democrats keep an eye on the future.

 

kelliekat44

(7,759 posts)
25. Waiting for the coming revolution...it won't take much to spark it...drones and all.
Tue Mar 12, 2013, 02:15 AM
Mar 2013

Think we can all hang on until Obama is out of office. This is what it is all about...

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