Gunman kills 4, injures 2 at two businesses in upstate NY

[cali]

HERKIMER, N.Y. - Police in upstate New York are searching for a gunman after shootings at two different businesses left four people dead and at least two wounded, according to local media reports.

According to LittleFallsTimes.com, police say two people were fatally shot at Gaffey's car wash in Herkimer and two more were gunned down at a business on Washington Street in Herkimer. The survivors were injured during the spree, but police did not say at which location.

State police told media outlets that the second business was a barber shop.

Herkimer Village police would only say there was a shooting and a manhunt. In the meantime, local schools are on lockdown.

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http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-504083_162-57574071-504083/upstate-new-york-shooting-leaves-4-dead-2-injured-police-tell-local-media/

[okieinpain]

1. I thought guns were outlawed in ny. n/t.

[Comrade_McKenzie]

4. State-by-state, locale by locale gun safety laws do not work...

When other areas are too fucking stupid to do the same thing.

Gun nuts can cross borders.

Which is why we need a federal ban.

[cali]

6. Guns are not outlawed in NY.

They do have fairly stringent gun control laws. That isn't even close to guns being outlawed.

[guardian]

2. Your point?

Or has DU become a crime blotter?

[cali]

3. uh, stories like this have always been posted here in GD

In light of all of the recent mass shootings and the debate on gun control are you seriously suggesting that posting a story about a mass shooting is irrelevant or trivial?

How fucking silly.

[guardian]

11. If everybody is just going to post crime stories

without comment (which is what the OP did) then all it does is clutter up the forum with run of the mill articles from the local section of newspapers. In the grand scheme of things this is a routine incident. Posting without comment is fairly pointless.

Maybe DU should create a separate topic for posting gun crimes? Then you could pre-number all 30,000 stories and just fill them in during the course of the year. You could have even more stories if you posted crime event where a gun was involved but never fired. Maybe to make it even more interesting, you could add stories for all 50,000 auto fatalities every year. Next burgularies... then zoning violations...

[cali]

14. phaw. everybody doesn't just post crime stories, honeypie. do pay attention.

take a look at GD and you can see that it's hardly cluttered with crime stories. duh.

Don't like it? tough shit.

[HangOnKids]

17. Thank you cali

Tip of my cap to you this morning.

[DanTex]

15. How hard was it to get yourself to become so callously indifferent to the senseless loss of

human life? Did it come natural to you? Or does it take like two months in an NRA indoctrination camp?

[guardian]

22. 155,000 people die every day

This incident was 0.00258% of the world daily death toll. THere are 870,000,000 people that go hungry every day. Just posting each individual case without comment is pointless.

If you have a solution, or want to propose an action to make things better, then I'm all ears. But if all you want to do is wring your hands and say "Look! Look!" then I have better things to do.

[cali]

24. If you have better things to do, why are you still hanging out in this thread?

And let me put this in very simple language just for you: Major news stories are a staple on GD. That ain't gonna change. You can whine your gun loving ass off about it all you want. And posting a news story is hardly wringing one's hands, genius.

[jmg257]

29. "In the grand scheme of things this is a routine incident." Yup.

Just another day in gun-lovers paradise...(only 6 shot this time though).

[Comrade_McKenzie]

5. GD on DU rightfully discusses the latest tragedies caused by the unregulated access to guns.

Don't want to contribute? Then there are hundreds of more threads.

[guardian]

12. I must have missed it

Where in the newspaper story did it talk about "unregulated access to guns" being involved in this incident?

[geek tragedy]

13. Police pulled 6 or more rifles out of the guy's place

after he tried to burn it down.

Goodness knows what he has on him.

[guardian]

16. Were those 6+ rifles

"unregulated"?

[geek tragedy]

18. Insufficiently so, since a nutjob mass murderer was able to acquire them nt

[guardian]

23. Ineffective regulations

are different than no regulations. Which of the many Federal, State, and local regulations were violated or ineffective in this instance?

[geek tragedy]

25. All of them, since a lunatic murderer was able to assemble an arsenal

of weapons capable of dealing out mass death.

No civilized human being needs six rifles or shotguns.

[mwrguy]

27. Obviously not regulated enough

If a murderous nutjob could get his hands on them.

Then again, anyone hoarding rifles is by definition a nutjob.

[guardian]

28. No problem.

Here is your solution:


Keep dreaming.

[DisgustipatedinCA]

19. My, what an angry little gunboy you are

Sorry the world isn't turning the way you want it to. Wait, actually, no, I'm not.

[HangOnKids]

21. YES!

Thanks.

[geek tragedy]

7. Defensive much about gun nuts on rampages? nt

[HangOnKids]

20. Appears so n/t

[DanTex]

10. Nothing to see here! Avert your eyes! There's no gun violence epidemic in America!

[Cooley Hurd]

26. This is a current event regarding a mass-shooting.

It's fucking news, man...

[geek tragedy]

9. Latest word is shooter on foot, armed, and on main street in Herkimer. nt