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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsI am mourning the death of democracy in Detroit.
Once again Snyder has thwarted democracy by nullifying over 230 years of democracy by demolishing the will of the people and appointing an Emergency Manager" who will now destroy public unions in the city amongst other atrocities in the name of "fiscal responsibility." He will probably sell the Ren Cen for a song then go into business with the people who buys it just like the Pontiac EM did with the Silverdome. Now half of the African Americans in the state of Michigan are without representation. And this is AFTER we voted to repeal the EM law last November. We mean nothing to these tyrants.
My state is dying and tonight I am in mourning for my Once Great Lakes State.
Diane
lunasun
(21,646 posts)The whole nation is mourning for your state
People - do not think - it cant happen here(wherever you are)
busterbrown
(8,515 posts)I swear to God, cops have been awful when it comes to supporting progressive issues which effect them and their families? Both in predominately White cities and Black.
I wonder if the cops in Michigan are gonna come in and crack heads or try a little slow down themselves?
My feelings are that for the most part cops in democratic states dont support progressive
causes. Ive got mine, screw the rest of you! Enjoy your union jobs and benefits guys!!
erinlough
(2,176 posts)This once great state that I love is now as Un-democratic as it can be. If you go to Lansing to protest, no matter how big the protest is, you are laughed at by the GOP reps and their staff. I hate them all, especially my rep, Pscholka. I believe nothing will help us except getting these people out.
MrMickeysMom
(20,453 posts)Americans for Prosperity.... all those guys...
They're doing it in other states, starting with our schools.... This is bad.
midnight
(26,624 posts)resource at a time...
reteachinwi
(579 posts)for Michigan from another Wisconsinite.
http://m.youtube.com/watch?feature=related&v=b4ElvJqEQRU
midnight
(26,624 posts)was passed in Wisconsin recently...
reteachinwi
(579 posts)by the mining legislation. They're planning a challenge, but that's all I know. They're taking donations for their legal challenge (this is off topic).
http://www.badriver-nsn.gov/
GoCubsGo
(32,079 posts)I expect that kind of shit from my state, but this is just unconscionable. WTF, Michigan?
TheKentuckian
(25,023 posts)Phlem
(6,323 posts)We have no representation and by the time everyone want's to lay siege it'll be to late.
Hopefully I'm wrong.
-p
socialist_n_TN
(11,481 posts)voters in Michigan to descend on the capital and occupy until shit gets changed. Along with an area wide general strike by EVERYBODY! And yes I know that a lot of folks are already "on strike" by being unemployed, but some are still working. Hell, occupy the workplaces too. You're not going to stop this shit with voting.
FrodosPet
(5,169 posts)Unlike most people, I love the city. I love going to a Tigers game or the Detroit Institute of Arts. Maybe a quick trip to the casinos for a free pop while I play the penny machines one line and coin at a time.
I have friends and coworkers in "The City". I see their faces and hear about how they didn't get any sleep because people kept shooting and sirens kept wailing all night.
And I read and hear about the endemic corruption. I hear about how my roommate was threatened by police officers when she was sent to pick up a load of PoPo urine samples while working as a medical courier. I see the former mayor of the city headed to prison, without remorse, but with supporters.
I've driven cabs and "meat trucks" many times through the burned out, abandoned wrecks of neighborhoods. So often, you are hit by long, sad, scared faces of the people too poor to leave.
Alas, this attack on democracy in Detroit is just one more on a long list of things to mourn about Detroit.
watoos
(7,142 posts)Detroit isn't taking this lying down. I see they have protested by driving slow on the freeway, causing a massive traffic jam. More acts of peaceful defiance are going to happen. We need to support the protesters because certainly the corporate-controlled MSM will not.
blkmusclmachine
(16,149 posts)Resistance will not be tolerated.
lonestarnot
(77,097 posts)Sounds like a Mittwitt buyout.
backwoodsbob
(6,001 posts)I take it you have never had to deal with the nightmare that is Detroit governance.I have.
That city is a nightmare of corruption and kickbacks/bribes.
NOTHING could be worse than the status quo in that city.
Kokonoe
(2,485 posts)When they take you away for driving too slow, is there any freedom.
Zax2me
(2,515 posts)It is the SADDEST thing going on in our country today.
LibertyBell7
(22 posts)MI's top Corporazi is saying that democracy itself is an impediment to solving our problems, and is throwing it over the side. The major flaw is that these minor dictators he is installing don't fix the problems either. Democracy is abandoned, the municipalities are largely privatized and their assets sold off and yet the core financial problems persist.
No. This is a naked overthrow of the tenets of our democratic republic in favor of establishing a corporate plutocracy (why I refer to them as Corporazis).
These are acts of insurrection against our democratic republic form of governance. With respect, there is no other way to interpret it.
ancianita
(36,023 posts)Except that, if this is about who's going to govern, the people there are getting ready to confront this managerial governance, from what I understand.
FarCenter
(19,429 posts)Admittedly, GMs purchase in 1996 was a totally stupid business move.
Maybe they will sell the Department of Public Lighting, or at least disband it, and have Detroit Edison power the streetlights and traffic lights. Having a parallel, duplicate network to distribute electricity is an incredible waste.
Doremus
(7,261 posts)In which direction from center do you normally trend?
I ask because your statement disparaging public power and stroking Detroit Edison has a decidedly rightward tilt. So much so that it could have been lifted from any number of sites where RWers congregate.
Were you aware of that, and do you care?
FarCenter
(19,429 posts)But having two distribution systems for electrical power is technologically asinine.
Doremus
(7,261 posts)And in this instance, you're sharing space with RW 'privatization' foamers.
Not a space I'd like to inhabit for many reasons, but that's just me.
Carry on and enjoy.
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FresnoDemocrat
(17 posts)Totally OK because DEBT.
Fuck you.
Guy Whitey Corngood
(26,500 posts)krispos42
(49,445 posts)...that no local administration could hope to deal with. And now the Republicans are stripping the corpse, the greedy bastards.
FarCenter
(19,429 posts)Ford was always in Dearborn. GM did a lot of manufacturing in the surrounding counties and upstate. There were old plants like Packard in the city. Jefferson assembly is the last large auto plant in Detroit.
krispos42
(49,445 posts)...but the foreign competition was hurting Detroit back in the 70's, after the oil shocks.
The US government allowed the auto industry to be consolidated into the Big Three, which ossified the industry and left them vulnerable to imports. Japanese imports, in particular, were forged in the highly competitive Japanese market, which had less than half the population being fought over by over a dozen different car companies.
Once fuel economy became important, Japanese cars gained a foothold. And the superior ergonomics and reliability of the Japanese car companies won over a lot of customers from Detroit as the years went by.
When Reagan lowered the tax rates in the early 80's, it also made location-shopping important. When the tax rate was higher and plenty of federal money flowed to the states, the state taxes were low or non-existent. Facing a flatter tax geography, the automakers were less inclined to move to other states.
After the tax rates plummeted, state and local taxes became proportionally more important, and the car companies began planning moving across the country... or out of country entirely.
FarCenter
(19,429 posts)Buick was in Flint. Oldsmobile was in Lansing. Chevrolet was in several cities other than Detroit. The gear works was in Saginaw.
Ford was in Dearborn. It made engines in Cleveland. It had a major operation in Highland Park, which is surrounded by the City of Detroit.
But it is not clear to me that there was much viable auto manufacturing done in the City of Detroit from the late '50s on. The companies in the city were Packard, Chrysler, Dodge, Hudson and other old line faltering companies.
backwoodsbob
(6,001 posts)trust me...that government was/is it's own worst nightmare.
I had the EXTREME displeasure of dealing with the Detroit bureaucracy back in the 80's/90's and anyone with half a brain who dealt with them saw this coming.
catbyte
(34,373 posts)Wow.
backwoodsbob
(6,001 posts)the status quo.
socialist_n_TN
(11,481 posts)governing the city, NOT a RW dictator appointed by the Teabagger governor.
LovingA2andMI
(7,006 posts)Wow, I'm speechless. Wonder if you voted with the 48% to keep P.A. 4 of 2011 as law in Michigan on November 6, 2012?
backwoodsbob
(6,001 posts)the government of that city may be the worst in the country.That city is a nightmare of corruption and plain out incompetence.People were and are in positions they are wholly unqualified for simply because of who they know,not just in one or two positions,but citywide.
The home improvement company I worked for when I lived there finally took a no bidding on jobs in Detroit policy beause it was so frustrating to try to get anything done there.Half the time we put in for building permits they couldn't find the paperwork for the home and if we got lucky enough to get a permit...weeks after any surrounding community would have produced it and at triple the cost,it just meant the installation crew would have to bribe whoever showed up to keep from being fined on some trumped up charge.
I could go on and on with bad experiences I had with that cities governance.I don't think they did one single thing right in the 21 years I lived there.My father still lives there and he says it has just steadily gotten worse.
No grocery chain will locate there.Pretty much EVERY successful business has moved to the suburbs....that city is a trainwreck.
Union Scribe
(7,099 posts)The GOP isn't bothered by minor issues like voters either. We shot down that emergency manager law in November, and they just laughed and passed another one.
krispos42
(49,445 posts)Union Scribe
(7,099 posts)in the middle of their blitzkrieg--where they also rushed through bills making MI a right to work state and restricting abortions. They pulled a real train through Lansing, during what was supposed to be a lame duck period.
krispos42
(49,445 posts)Just... holy shit.
xtraxritical
(3,576 posts)for his signature.
AnotherMcIntosh
(11,064 posts)FrodosPet
(5,169 posts)The population peaked, and was already dropping by the time President Kennedy came into office.
The downtown buildings from the 1920s and 1930s were already starting to decay. The new freeways and growth of the suburbs, along with the demise of Packard, Hudson, etc. pulled a big part of the population out. Then there were the riots of 1943 and the late 60s, and by that time, Detroit had become a place everyone loved to hate and fear.
The city government has a long standing reputation for corruption and incompetence. People on both sides of 8 Mile have been playing racial politics since I have been alive. And anyone who does want to open any kind of business has to jump through a lot of hoops to open up.
Nixon's not blameless, but the problems started before he was even elected Veep under Eisenhower.
AnotherMcIntosh
(11,064 posts)American middle-class by shipping jobs to foreign countries.
To the extent that he actions accelerated the destruction of Detroit, I also blame him for that.
I do not blame him for the decay of Detroit which began, as you say, in the 1920's and 1930's. In the mid-1920's, many American cities were in state of decay. I don't blame Nixon for that either.
sendero
(28,552 posts).. why Nixon is so important a figure in that regard. Seems like recent history is very well populated with such folks, including Bill Clinton and the current Democratic congress.
AnotherMcIntosh
(11,064 posts)ancianita
(36,023 posts)this a good thing? I'd think that any attempt to take control of their own city is the very heart of democratic revival. We all should be thinking of ways to outpour support, don't you think?
lonestarnot
(77,097 posts)socialist_n_TN
(11,481 posts)(I haven't seen it, but I have no reason to doubt it. It WOULD be the logical move) then, yes, we should all get behind them. They will need to set up workplace and neighborhood councils to form a "shadow" government in opposition to the Emergency Manager. And the people will need to answer to the councils and NOT the "official" appointed dictator.
I hope the somebody in Detroit has studied St. Petersburg in 1917.
former9thward
(31,981 posts)Depending on what type of socialist you are you may not like how that turns out.
socialist_n_TN
(11,481 posts)BECAUSE THAT'S THE ONLY WAY TO FIGHT THESE FASCISTS.
And I'm a left communist. Or a Trotskyist.
former9thward
(31,981 posts)longship
(40,416 posts)Over a million people no longer live there. That's greater than 50% of a formerly great city moved away. I saw it begin when neighborhoods began to become integrated in the sixties. Some called it white flight, as families fled to the suburbs. My family, like some others, saw it for what it was, a cowardly act by racists.
The auto companies were also complicit in this city destruction. Moving auto plants out of state, and off shore, further bled the city. Jobs that people held for decades evaporated. More people moved out of the city.
Corruption likely contributed to an environment where there was no end in sight to the problems Detroit was experiencing. I cannot speak to that, but it couldn't have helped.
In my youth I would take the bus to Briggs Stadium to watch the Tigers play. Al Kaline, Norm Cash, Bill Freehan would belt out home runs and Frank Lary would mow down the Yankees from the mound. I also took the bus to go to the Detroit Institute of Arts. I remember hockey games at the Olympia with Gordie Howe, Alex Delvecchio, and Frank Mahavolich forming the Red Wings' front line.
I remember that horrible summer of 1967 when the city burned from racial unrest, the skies alight from fires, the smell of smoke in the air citywide. And I remember the next year when the Tigers under Mayo Smith uniting a city with their miracle win against those incredible St. Louis Cardinals in spite of Bob Gibson's awesome arm. Mickey Lolich, the Tiger's three game winner hid his grip on the ball behind his beer belly and mowed the Cards down. A year after the riots Detroit broke out in celebration. That felt good.
Now I am sad for my home town. I wish those who live there now my best. Keep the faith; fight the fight; stand up.
ljm2002
(10,751 posts)...I really enjoyed reading it.
I lived in the Bay Area for 30 years, in the East Bay (Berkeley, Alameda and Albany). I have always loved Oakland, but boy does it get a bad rap, and of course there are many legitimate reasons for that -- but people sometimes lose sight of the soul of the place. It seems the same with Detroit, and you have presented some aspects of its heart and soul. Thanks!
etherealtruth
(22,165 posts)(he is alive and well, spending 6 mos Florida/6 mos northern MI)
... always nice to think of my dad (I will give him a call)
demwing
(16,916 posts)The PTB are overturning democracy right in from of us. Does ANYONE think this will stop at the city level? FUCK THIS.
Time to fight back. If the people's elections can be overturned by the Governor, then by god the people can overturn the election of the Governor.
What's good for the goose, yada yada...Don't push me cause I'm close to the edge
still_one
(92,136 posts)kickysnana
(3,908 posts)I remember vividly after failing to stop the 2000 (s)election that everyone got those cute mailers asking opinions on what was important to us Dem voters and overwhelmingly we said stop them from packing the courts with partisans. I believe we called faxed and wrote. "But that wouldn't be polite, or nice" they said "they would just do it to us." Guess what. They did it to us anyway and worse and we are still supposed to support anyone with a D by his or her name.
ITYS.
I throw the surveys in the recycling and keep my checkbook shut except for those handful who remember what freedom, justice and democracy looked like or was at least a hope in out future.
davidn3600
(6,342 posts)The states have jurisdiction over the counties and cities.
You can go to the State Supreme Court with it. But unless the matter involves federal law or the federal constitution, SCOTUS has no jurisdiction.
still_one
(92,136 posts)LovingA2andMI
(7,006 posts)It's a 5/2 split in favor of Republicans. The MI Supreme Court had a 4/3 split until former Judge Diane Hathaway got caught up with flipping her Florida and Michigan homes for the tax savings (which is illegal) by taking the houses out of her name, putting it in the name of her kids, then flipping the homes back in her name.
So, there is no use of looking to the Supreme Court for relief as none will be given. Michiganders did a truly AWFUL thing in 2010 when many stayed home "mad" with President Obama for some un-Godly reason. But President Obama was NOT on the ticket. Instead of "paying back Obama" they screwed up royalty our Elected State Government until December 31, 2014 by turning ALL OF IT over to the Republicans.
HiPointDem
(20,729 posts)ReRe
(10,597 posts)The dictatorial Michigan government taking over Detroit? Is this not UNCONSTITUTIONAL? If not in the Michigan Constitution, then the Federal Constitution? This reminds me of one of GWBs preemptive wars of invasion... only they seem to be getting away with it scott free. If a city or county has a hard time in a state, does this mean it needs to be shut down? Why doesn't the state just find a way to back Detroit, financially? Next thing we know, after they gut the place, the vulture capitalists will come in and parse up the place, and for good measure change the name of Detroit to Snyderville. Looks to me like this is a job for Attorney General Holder. I think Eric Holder is probably the worst AG we have ever had, because he does nothing!
I think the highway protesters have a good idea going... Remember when France truckers went on a strike in the past? They shut business down in the entire country for many days. Maybe that's what the Detroit protesters need to do. Pack up bottled water, non perishable foods, etc., etc. etc..., and hit the road,
and then park it!
DonCoquixote
(13,616 posts)Especially as, if they get to pull this bullshit in Detroit, you KNOW they will try it in Dixie, especially Florida. The real red state blue state divide is URBAN/RURAL, and the GOP wants to drown out all urban voices, because they know they have the suburbs locked. If we do not oppose this, the GOP will have a trump card to play to drown out any opposition in any state, by turning cities into corporate bordellos and rubbish heaps.
arely staircase
(12,482 posts)today. i think both. it is ourageous.
Starry Messenger
(32,342 posts)lonestarnot
(77,097 posts)Scootaloo
(25,699 posts)1) Acquire a rail. A length of sturdy wood, strong enough for a person to straddle without breaking, and long enough that it needs be carried by at least two people.
2) While you're rail-shopping at the Home Depot, pick up a bucket of roofing tar. Store in a warm area so it can soften.
3) While your tar is softening, seek out hte nearest crafts store or poultry farm to acquire feathers.
4) Collect either Snyder or this "Emergency manager", or both. Using a wooden paddle, apply your roofing tar liberally to both men. be sure to wear old clothes, as this stuff is impossible to remove from fabric.
5) Smash feathers all over both of them, cram the rail between their legs, and haul them out of the city limits. leave them there.
it may not actually solve the problem, but it gets the fucking point across.
catbyte
(34,373 posts)BlueCheese
(2,522 posts)http://www.nytimes.com/2013/03/15/us/gov-rick-snyder-kevyn-orr-emergency-manager-detroit.html
Among other things, he's a Democrat, an African American, and a graduate of the University of Michigan.
Having the state take power away from a local municipality isn't good, but according to the New York Times it has happened 20 times or so in Michigan over the last 25 years or so.
I remember when Congress appointed a financial control board to oversee the D.C. city government, replacing the erratic leadership of Marion Barry. I was skeptical at first, because Republicans in Congress frequently treat D.C. as their own private fiefdom, but it worked out well. Tony Williams did a very competent job and ended up being elected to two terms as mayor later. The city came out of that in much better shape.
Union Scribe
(7,099 posts)What Snyder basically has done is, "Here, he looks like you so stop complaining about losing your silly democracy."
Blue_Tires
(55,445 posts)etherealtruth
(22,165 posts)catbyte
(34,373 posts)Not one public entitiy taken over by an EM has improved. In fact they are worse off because they are selling off public assets. Look up Benton Harbor. Its EM tried selling BH's only public radio on ebay until he found out it was illegal. It is a tragedy and a travesty.
Recursion
(56,582 posts)The Control Board was the best thing that happened to the city in a long time.
LovingA2andMI
(7,006 posts)You? Ever heard of the Chapter 9 Municipally Bankruptcy process filed in 9 other localities nationwide? If Detroit REALLY HAD a "short-term cash crisis" which is self is a lie.....then bankruptcy was the right and Democracy based BEST opinion.
I suggest do a Google Search on "Tom Barrow, CPA and Andy Dillon meeting, EFM" and learn details not spoon feed to you by our corporate owned media about the differences between long-term liabilities and a short-term cash obligations, then let me know how you feel about the "Control Board", okay?
Recursion
(56,582 posts)Tony Williams is pretty much the only widely popular figure in city government in the past few decades.
catbyte
(34,373 posts)KamaAina
(78,249 posts)Srsly. There were rumors that Mittwit was being considered. Y'know, 'cause the trees are the right height and all.
kwassa
(23,340 posts)It was undemocratic, but it did break the stranglehold of the corrupt Barry administration.
LovingA2andMI
(7,006 posts)Or have our Corporate Owned Media fooled into thinking Kevin Orr is a Democrat because HE SAID SO. What ever happened to INVESTIGATIVE JOURNALISM, like checking his VOTING RECORDS?
JDPriestly
(57,936 posts)FrodosPet
(5,169 posts)I am not going to defend the appointment of an Emergency Financial Manager, and the threat to democracy that entails. But I am hoping to shed some light here on why Detroit elected officials don't get a lot of love:
LovingA2andMI
(7,006 posts)What is wrong with the People regressing their grievances as they can according to OUR U.S. CONSTITUTION and the City Council acting in its authority to subpoena the Mayor according to their rights granted by the City Charter? This is how Democracy looks like. Don't like it, move to a country where plutocracy or fascism is the mainstay
FrodosPet
(5,169 posts)All I was trying to do is point a couple videos which I thought might shed some insight into why people are not MORE upset, why there are not huge demonstrations with tens of thousands of people.
I am an anti-authoritarian who loves Detroit and hurts because of the mess it is in. I don't think I would do very well under fascism. So I will stay where I am, chat on the Internet, and talk to people about what's REALLY going on.
WCGreen
(45,558 posts)If I was a political gun for hire I would be mapping out the campaign to purge those anti-government thugs come 2014.
I would use this messaging. They went around the will of the people and now they are taking over so-called at risk communities leaving those who live there no way to participate in the government that is the most immediate. If they can do that to us, what will stop them from doing it to you....
ProSense
(116,464 posts)Republicans are destroying this country, and somehow they're managing to do it while false equivalencies reign.
erinlough
(2,176 posts)The republicans have no one to stop them. They own the House, Senate, Governor, Supream court. I think the group Anonymous needs to start looking into some of these guys, I know they have lots of skeletons in their closets. There has to be something we can do.
I have protested in Lansing and at their home offices, called, written, and anything else I could find and it does absolutely 0 good. My state is f**ked.
marions ghost
(19,841 posts)Throd
(7,208 posts)If you were the mayor, what would be your main points to turn things around?
FarCenter
(19,429 posts)Break up the surrounding residential areas along the lines of the various Interstates and freeways into another 6 or 8 municipalities.
The City of Detroit as it currently exists is too big and too troubled to reform.
Spitfire of ATJ
(32,723 posts)notadmblnd
(23,720 posts)My main concern is what will be done with the water department. A lot of communities get their fresh water via Detroit.
mostlyconfused
(211 posts)Would it be better to just leave the city alone and let current leadership continue until it just collapses on itself?
catbyte
(34,373 posts)I'm waiting...
kwassa
(23,340 posts)not Michigan, I know, but it certainly helped here.
catbyte
(34,373 posts)private firms. It is nothing but theft. I don't care how DC was helped. Here is is a fucking disgrace.
sangsaran
(67 posts)droidamus2
(1,699 posts)The Republican's who deride the Federal government 'ruling from above' and go all state's rights every time the federal government does something don't seem to have any problem with using their positions as heads of state governments handing down edicts from 'above'. I guess 'local control' only counts when they are in control.
warrprayer
(4,734 posts).. is working on making Pa. suck as we speak
moondust
(19,972 posts)I'm kind of surprised some of the political "royalty" in the deep red states haven't long ago enacted laws similar to Michigan's, effectively making themselves kings and queens, not to be further bothered by the pesky rabble believing they're entitled to a vote and self-rule. Bosh!
WTF?
LiberalFighter
(50,888 posts)DonRedwood
(4,359 posts)I'd be at city hall screaming my head off (with a fabulous sign, to boot!)
alp227
(32,017 posts)0n fact reply 51 has some video from WXYZ ABC7 Detroit news showing protests at city council mtgs. And Stephen Henderson at the Free Press wrote an opinion article about union protesters who spoke against the EFM. Henderson, who hosts American Black Journal produced by Detroit Public Television (WTVS channel 56...fond memories watching it as a young kid in Ann Arbor when it was known as channel 56) writes:
But their actions so far blocking traffic with freeway slowdowns on the Lodge and I-94, the threat of a human chain blocking access to the Coleman A. Young Municipal Center are just about grabbing attention.
Id have more respect for their efforts if, say, they organized a group of Detroiters to go out and pick up around Belle Isle on a Sunday morning, when the trash piles over the curbs and overwhelms city park staff.
Or what if they lined the darkened streets of the citys most destitute neighborhoods during early morning hours, when children walking to school wonder what danger lurks in the rows of abandoned houses?
The civil rights movement of the 1960s was successful precisely because it avoided that kind of indulgence. Demonstrations were effective because they focused attention on the problems that needed changing, not just on the people staging them.
In Detroit, our problem is the lack of services and the fiscal imbalance that make it impossible to manage a sustainable urban center. Trash. Darkness that helps make streets horribly dangerous.
Honestly what else can be done to avert bankruptcy? When even the liberal Free Press editorial board has written in favor of the EFM:
smallcat88
(426 posts)I think this is just the beginning of a right-wing plan to destroy democracy because they can't win fair elections anymore. Mich. may be getting some of the worst of it now, but they're not through by a long shot. The voter ID thing backfired on them somewhat but the gerrymandering worked wonders in helping them hang onto the House. So far MSNBC is the only place you can get real coverage of this story. Everyone needs to email, blog, and send links to other news channels/shows demanding they cover the story more thoroughly. Or before you know it we're all going to wake up in a plutocracy with the Koch brothers standing behind whoever's sitting on the throne.
This country needs to wake up!!!!!!!!!
AndyA
(16,993 posts)and of course Michigan as well. Detroit used to be an incredible place to visit, especially if you love cars. And Motown, too!
I keep hoping things will turn around. I did see where some former vacant, run down buildings have been restored better than new, and that gave me hope that things would eventually get better.
This Emergency Manager thing is really bad, though. Basically, they just do whatever the heck they want, regardless of what anyone else has to say. A dictator, basically.
Sending you good thoughts, Diane. Michigan deserves better.
ProfessionalLeftist
(4,982 posts)...and it's heartbreaking to see what is being done to this once-great state.
What really scares me though is that if they get away with this in Michigan (and they are getting away with it) - other states will be next.
Bay Boy
(1,689 posts)selling the Ren-Cen out from under them.
olddots
(10,237 posts)to care about the fact that this may be just the beginning of the tea party's idiocy .