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marmar

(77,064 posts)
Fri Mar 15, 2013, 10:10 AM Mar 2013

F**king Monsanto


from Salon.com:



Last November, the U.S. Department of Justice quietly closed a three-year antitrust investigation into Monsanto, the biotech giant whose genetic traits are embedded in over 90 percent of America’s soybean crop and more than 80 percent of corn. Despite a splash of press coverage when the investigation was initially announced, its termination went mostly unreported. The DOJ released no written public statement. Only a brief press release from Monsanto conveyed the news.

The lack of attention belies the significance of the decision, both for food consumers around the world and for U.S. businesses. Experts who have examined Monsanto’s conduct say the Justice Department’s decision not to act all but officially establishes the firm’s sovereignty over the U.S. seed industry. Many of them also say the decision ratifies aggressive practices Monsanto used to entrench its dominance and deter competition. This includes highly restrictive contractual agreements that excluded rivals, alongside a multibillion-dollar spree to buy up seed companies.

When the administration first launched its investigation, many antitrust and agriculture experts believed it was still possible to imagine an industry characterized by greater competition in the marketplace and greater diversity in seeds. That future may now be foreclosed.

The investigation into Monsanto’s business practices began at the state level in 2007, when attorneys general in Iowa, Texas and a handful of other states initiated an inquiry into the company’s confidential licensing agreements. These are the contracts that must be signed by any seed company wishing to insert Monsanto’s genes into its own strains of soybean and corn plants. ............(more)

The complete piece is at: http://www.salon.com/2013/03/15/how_did_monsanto_outfox_the_obama_administration/



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F**king Monsanto (Original Post) marmar Mar 2013 OP
Wow!! It looks like the Selective Justice Department is at it again! KansDem Mar 2013 #1
This is going to be one of the most important issues Le Taz Hot Mar 2013 #2
Agreed. These type of posts don't even live long here at DU laundry_queen Mar 2013 #3
k&r Liberal_in_LA Mar 2013 #17
The problem is complex siligut Mar 2013 #5
You are so right about that. This is a HUGE danger to all the people of the world. loudsue Mar 2013 #6
Mutant foodlike substance occultly shoved down American gullets Berlum Mar 2013 #11
This shouldn't be a surprise. CanSocDem Mar 2013 #4
Once they determined that Monsanto had created no GMO medical marijuana, Jackpine Radical Mar 2013 #7
oh that is a good one! lunasun Mar 2013 #9
Business and Religion, moving in to take over government just like fungus moving up and surrounding DhhD Mar 2013 #8
Monsanto is a malevolent tumor Smilo Mar 2013 #10
Monsanto: Patenting Death Judi Lynn Mar 2013 #12
I have confidence the processed food giants will turn on Monsanto given enough public pressure. proverbialwisdom Mar 2013 #14
RECOMMENDED: Hershey's Milk Chocolate and Kisses to go non-GM proverbialwisdom Feb 2015 #31
While we are talking Monsanto - are the Cutie oranges that they are advertising for kids a GM food? jwirr Mar 2013 #13
there seems to be some kind of internet meme that they are, but i haven't seen any proof. HiPointDem Mar 2013 #24
Thank you. My great grandchildren love them and this makes me feel better. jwirr Mar 2013 #25
It's important to understand the distinction of crossing/breeding vs genetic engineering NRaleighLiberal Mar 2013 #15
k&r for ur tomato seeds Liberal_in_LA Mar 2013 #18
Not "F**king Monsanto", but bvar22 Mar 2013 #16
True enough laundry_queen Mar 2013 #19
What leader wants to stand between these multinationals and their billions? That's up to ALL of us. proverbialwisdom Mar 2013 #20
K&R! countryjake Mar 2013 #21
Let's not forget that it is Monsanto that unleashed snappyturtle Mar 2013 #22
Do you eat foods with aspartame? Buzz Clik Mar 2013 #27
No snappyturtle Mar 2013 #29
Neither do I. Buzz Clik Mar 2013 #30
Kick, Rec. n/t. apocalypsehow Mar 2013 #23
I really don't get this. How the hell is is that Monsanto is to blame for ALL of this? Buzz Clik Mar 2013 #26
One More Step To Complete Corporate Tyranny And Orwell's 1984 cantbeserious Mar 2013 #28

KansDem

(28,498 posts)
1. Wow!! It looks like the Selective Justice Department is at it again!
Fri Mar 15, 2013, 10:15 AM
Mar 2013
Experts who have examined Monsanto’s conduct say the Justice Department’s decision not to act all but officially establishes the firm’s sovereignty over the U.S. seed industry.

Like Wall Street and the banks, Monsanto must be "too big" for the SJD to prosecute...

Le Taz Hot

(22,271 posts)
2. This is going to be one of the most important issues
Fri Mar 15, 2013, 10:19 AM
Mar 2013

in the coming few years that we, as humans, will ever be confronted with. And it's so hard to get people's attention on this issue. It's disheartening sometimes.

K & R

laundry_queen

(8,646 posts)
3. Agreed. These type of posts don't even live long here at DU
Fri Mar 15, 2013, 10:24 AM
Mar 2013

where people should be aware and concerned. K&R

siligut

(12,272 posts)
5. The problem is complex
Fri Mar 15, 2013, 10:43 AM
Mar 2013

Maybe the biggest hindrance to awareness is that the health issues associated with GMOs are nebulous and can be attributed to other causes, which is what the US medical community is happy to do.

Next to the lack of overwhelming evidence of definitive harm or the reason that the evidence is not fleshed out, is because Monsanto has money and power, huge power within our government.

Most people are unaware of the health problems even while suffering from them and for those that know there may be some, they are minimized, ignored and silenced and for the knowing, maybe they figure that the health problems associated with GMO foods will just cull the herd. They are the elitist scum.

loudsue

(14,087 posts)
6. You are so right about that. This is a HUGE danger to all the people of the world.
Fri Mar 15, 2013, 11:06 AM
Mar 2013

Monsanto is the closest thing to the archetypal "devil" that has ever existed. They are pure evil in their intent and direction. But in a capitalist economy, greed is god.

 

CanSocDem

(3,286 posts)
4. This shouldn't be a surprise.
Fri Mar 15, 2013, 10:29 AM
Mar 2013


The Industrial Ruling Class expect their toadies in Washington to favour private interest over the public good, at every opportunity.

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Jackpine Radical

(45,274 posts)
7. Once they determined that Monsanto had created no GMO medical marijuana,
Fri Mar 15, 2013, 11:59 AM
Mar 2013

Last edited Fri Mar 15, 2013, 09:23 PM - Edit history (1)

what was left to investigate?

DhhD

(4,695 posts)
8. Business and Religion, moving in to take over government just like fungus moving up and surrounding
Fri Mar 15, 2013, 12:07 PM
Mar 2013

the cells of the foot: A multinucleated Fungus having both the nuclei of business and religion inside its slimy long reaching cells and tissues.

Smilo

(1,944 posts)
10. Monsanto is a malevolent tumor
Fri Mar 15, 2013, 12:32 PM
Mar 2013

on mankind.

Did you know -

Monsanto has successfully applied enough pressure on Whole Foods Market to stop opposing the mass commercialization of genetically engineered crops, such as the RoundUp Ready Alfalfa. The reason why the so-called health-food messiah would cave in? Turns out it’s more profitable to sell food labeled “natural” instead of “certified organic,” and if it’s “natural” it can contain un-natural ingredients and sell them at “certified organic” prices. Go fig.
http://www.wewititla.com/2012/02/01/10-things-you-should-know-hate-about-monsanto/

Judi Lynn

(160,501 posts)
12. Monsanto: Patenting Death
Fri Mar 15, 2013, 12:48 PM
Mar 2013

Published on Friday, March 15, 2013 by Common Dreams
Monsanto: Patenting Death
by Randall Amster

Monsanto has yet another case pending in the court system, this time before the U.S. Supreme Court on the exclusivity of its genetically modified seed patents. Narrowly at issue is whether Monsanto retains patent rights on soybeans that have been replanted after showing up in generic stocks rather than being sold specifically as seeds, or whether those patent rights are “exhausted” after the initial planting. But more broadly the case also raises implications regarding control of the food supply (Photo: JBrazito via Flickr)and the patenting of life – questions that current patent laws are ill-equipped to meaningfully address.

On the specific legal issues, Monsanto is likely to win the case (they almost always do). The extant facts make this a relatively poor platform to serve as a test case of Monsanto's right to exert such expansive powers. The farmer in this situation had previously purchased Monsanto soybeans for planting (back in 1999), and in this instance bought previously harvested soybeans with the intention of planting them – even spraying Monsanto's Roundup herbicide on them in the hopes that at least some of the generic stock would be of the so-called "Roundup Ready" variety.

Despite this unfortunate posture, the case does provide another opportunity for critical inquiry regarding the unprecedented and perverse level of control Monsanto is asserting over the food supply. It is estimated that 90 percent of the soybeans in the U.S. are genetically modified and thus subject to potential patents. A random handful of soybeans procured anywhere is likely to contain at least some Monsanto-altered beans. Such a near-monopoly effectively gives Monsanto the right to control access to a staple food item that is found in a wide range of consumer products.

Other variations on this theme include pollen from Monsanto corn (similarly dominant in the U.S. market) pollinating a farmer's crop, or seeds from Monsanto-engineered grains being distributed by animals, winds, or waterways and commingling with non-GMO plantings. In each case, Monsanto could have a cause of action against an unwitting farmer by claiming patent infringement.

More:
http://www.commondreams.org/view/2013/03/15-7

proverbialwisdom

(4,959 posts)
14. I have confidence the processed food giants will turn on Monsanto given enough public pressure.
Fri Mar 15, 2013, 01:05 PM
Mar 2013

Check it out.

http://action.fooddemocracynow.org/sign/tell_hersheys_to_kiss_monsanto_goodbye

Tell Hershey's to Kiss Monsanto Goodbye!

Last fall, while Californians were working to support their basic right to label genetically engineered foods through Prop 37, the Hershey Company, the nation’s largest chocolate-maker, contributed $519,000 to defeat them and your Right to Know what’s in your food. Rather than stand with Californians, Hershey's joined with Monsanto, the world's largest biotech seed company, who dumped in $8.1 million to stifle democracy and transparency.

If you’re uncertain why Hershey’s chose to climb into bed with Monsanto to defeat GMO labeling, consider the fact that Hershey’s Kisses are chock full of GMOs! Unfortunately, Hershey's is caught in a huge pile of chocolate hypocrisy since Hershey’s sells GMO free chocolate in Europe, but keeps peddling GMOs in America.

This Valentine’s day, join Food Democracy Now! and say Goodbye to Hershey’s chocolate until they agree to sell GMO free chocolates in America.

Tell Hershey to Kiss Monsanto Goodbye!

Click here to download our Hershey's Valentine's Day graphic to remind you who supports GMOs and Monsanto and who's against your right to know!

(Right click and select 'save file as' to save the file and download the graphic)

proverbialwisdom

(4,959 posts)
31. RECOMMENDED: Hershey's Milk Chocolate and Kisses to go non-GM
Wed Feb 25, 2015, 05:25 AM
Feb 2015
http://www.confectionerynews.com/Ingredients/Hershey-in-non-GMO-and-no-high-fructose-corn-syrup-pledge

Hershey's Milk Chocolate and Kisses to go non-GM
By Oliver Nieburg+, 23-Feb-2015


Hershey intends to remove genetically-modified ingredients from Hershey’s Milk Chocolate and Kisses by the end of the year.
COPYRIGHT PROTECTED TEXT

via Robyn O'Brien @foodawakenings · Feb 23

jwirr

(39,215 posts)
13. While we are talking Monsanto - are the Cutie oranges that they are advertising for kids a GM food?
Fri Mar 15, 2013, 12:51 PM
Mar 2013
 

HiPointDem

(20,729 posts)
24. there seems to be some kind of internet meme that they are, but i haven't seen any proof.
Sat Mar 16, 2013, 05:03 AM
Mar 2013

i'm reading people who are saying that because they're seedless and easy to peel they must be GM.

But seedless, easy to peel citrus has been around forever.

Citrus unshiu is a seedless and easy-peeling citrus species, also known as cold hardy mandarin,[1] satsuma mandarin,[1] satsuma orange,[1] Christmas orange,[citation needed] and tangerine.[1] It is probably of Japanese origin and introduced elsewhere.[2][3][4][5][6]

The Afrikaans name naartjie is also used in English. It derives originally from the Tamil word nartei meaning citrus. The word has been used in South Africa since 1790...

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Citrus_unshiu



A clementine is a variety of mandarin orange (Citrus reticulata), so named in 1902.[1] The exterior is a deep orange colour with a smooth, glossy appearance. Clementines can be separated into seven to fourteen segments. They tend to be very easy to peel, like a tangerine, but are almost always seedless.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Clementine



So far as I know, the only thing that's changed is that we're getting them year round in the US where we only used to get them around christmas when I was young.

probably because of all the mass importing of out of season fruit and veg from other countries these days.

personally i doubt they're genetically modified.

NRaleighLiberal

(60,013 posts)
15. It's important to understand the distinction of crossing/breeding vs genetic engineering
Fri Mar 15, 2013, 01:09 PM
Mar 2013

So hybrids aren't inherently bad - unless one of the crossing parents is genetically engineered. All of the wonderful heirloom tomatoes we know and crave these days - the rainbow of colors, hundreds - no, thousands - of varieties - are due to either natural crossing (thanks, bees), the occasional mutation that is identified, or intended crossing followed by selections. Where it gets nasty with companies like Monsanto, even aside from the GMO aspect, is the aspect of "ownership" of non-hybrid varieties for commercial gain.

I have an issue with hybrids for other reasons - the cost, the inability to save seeds, etc. I've been growing mostly heirloom/non-hybrid for years now, and the flavors are wonderful, the diversity incredible, and yields just fine....even hybrids that have so-called "resistance" will get diseased (since it is most appropriately called "tolerance" - you get a few extra weeks, typically, but diseases, if present, will get them in the end).

I have a collection of about 3000 types of tomato seeds - none of them hybrids - and Monsanto will never get their hands on them!

bvar22

(39,909 posts)
16. Not "F**king Monsanto", but
Fri Mar 15, 2013, 01:22 PM
Mar 2013

F**king Justice Department and F**king Politicians.

Monsanto is just doing what corporations do.
We the People are supposed to be protected by our government,
but Monsanto has BOUGHT our Executive Branch.

Tom Vilsack was appointed to run the US Department of Agriculture.
Google: "Tom Vilsack & Monsanto"

Michael Taylor was appointed to run the FDA.
Google: "Michael Taylor & FDA"

Eric Holder was appointed to run the Justice Department.
You don't have to Google anything to already know what a worthless piece of garbage Eric Holder is.

The REASON why Monsanto gets away with these outrages is that
We-the-People are not allowed to vote for people that would STOP them.




You will know them by their WORKS,
not by their rhetoric, promises, or excuses.
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laundry_queen

(8,646 posts)
19. True enough
Fri Mar 15, 2013, 01:51 PM
Mar 2013

One of another great failure of the Obama administration. That and Wall Street. You are right, the people were never given a real choice.

proverbialwisdom

(4,959 posts)
20. What leader wants to stand between these multinationals and their billions? That's up to ALL of us.
Fri Mar 15, 2013, 03:53 PM
Mar 2013
http://www.nytimes.com/2012/10/14/magazine/why-californias-proposition-37-should-matter-to-anyone-who-cares-about-food.html?pagewanted=all&_r=0

Vote for the Dinner Party
Is this the year that the food movement finally enters politics?

By MICHAEL POLLAN
Published October 10, 2012


<>

One person in Washington who would surely take note of the California vote is President Obama. During the 2008 campaign, he voiced support for many of the goals of the food movement, including the labeling of G.M. food. (“We’ll let folks know whether their food has been genetically modified,” he declared in an Iowa speech in 2007, “because Americans should know what they’re buying.”) As president he has failed to keep that promise, but he has taken some positive steps: his U.S.D.A. has done much to nurture the local-food economy, for example. Perhaps most important, Michelle Obama began a national conversation about food and health — soft politics, yes, but these often help prepare the soil for the other kind. Yet on the hard issues, the ones that challenge agribusiness-as-usual, President Obama has so far declined to spend his political capital and on more than one occasion has taken Monsanto’s side. He has treated the food movement as a sentiment rather than a power, and who can blame him?

Until now. Over the last four years I’ve had occasion to speak to several people who have personally lobbied the president on various food issues, including G.M. labeling, and from what I can gather, Obama’s attitude toward the food movement has always been: What movement? I don’t see it. Show me. On Nov. 6, the voters of California will have the opportunity to do just that.

Michael Pollan is the author of ‘‘Cooked: A Natural History of Transformation,’’ which will be published in April by Penguin Press.”

snappyturtle

(14,656 posts)
22. Let's not forget that it is Monsanto that unleashed
Sat Mar 16, 2013, 04:49 AM
Mar 2013

aspartame for broader consumption. I don't know how we can ever know the health damage that endeavor has done to unknowing consumers.

 

Buzz Clik

(38,437 posts)
26. I really don't get this. How the hell is is that Monsanto is to blame for ALL of this?
Sat Mar 16, 2013, 11:15 AM
Mar 2013

I hate their business practices. I really do. They bully farmers and chase their genes across the countryside and threaten lawsuits and win. Truly horrible.

But, this anti-trust outrage at DU is totally bizarre. I would say that some huge majority at DU really despises Monsanto's frankenfoods -- they don't trust GMOs. So, why do you care that they have all the patents on those genes? Your concern should be with the vast majority of farmers who buy those seeds and plant them because they really, really want them.

Why the misplaced outrage?

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