Welcome to DU! The truly grassroots left-of-center political community where regular people, not algorithms, drive the discussions and set the standards. Join the community: Create a free account Support DU (and get rid of ads!): Become a Star Member Latest Breaking News General Discussion The DU Lounge All Forums Issue Forums Culture Forums Alliance Forums Region Forums Support Forums Help & Search
 

snooper2

(30,151 posts)
Sat Mar 16, 2013, 11:32 PM Mar 2013

Why Do Men Carve The Turkey?

Since we are deep into all the other threads/topics, might as well add one more-----




As Thanksgiving approaches, I am struck by something I see throughout the media (including print ads, television ads, movies, television shows, and more). The man is always the one who carves the turkey.

This is something of a reversal of the classic media rule that "women cook the food and men eat the food." (Paula Deen and Rachael Ray cook; Guy Fieri eats.) Although I suppose the question there is whether carving a turkey counts as preparing a meal or eating it.

http://femaletalk.com/article/why-do-men-carve-turkey


86 replies = new reply since forum marked as read
Highlight: NoneDon't highlight anything 5 newestHighlight 5 most recent replies
Why Do Men Carve The Turkey? (Original Post) snooper2 Mar 2013 OP
Interesting, don't know treestar Mar 2013 #1
When I cook the turkey I carve the turkey snooper2 Mar 2013 #3
"As Thanksgiving approaches..."??? Well, okay. Anyway, it's because: Buzz Clik Mar 2013 #2
you're single I take it? snooper2 Mar 2013 #6
Err... not right now. Have you been talking to my wife? Is there something I should know? Buzz Clik Mar 2013 #8
no..never mind... snooper2 Mar 2013 #9
"the slob who hasn't done jack all day" Scootaloo Mar 2013 #26
LOL!! I think you nailed it!!! n/t Ghost in the Machine Mar 2013 #35
Is that what the kids are calling it these days? MannyGoldstein Mar 2013 #4
I call it the third leg snooper2 Mar 2013 #5
Drumsticking ... Arugula Latte Mar 2013 #24
Beat me to it. Fire Walk With Me Mar 2013 #29
Why do men fry the turkey? Women can't handle propane and peanut oil? FarCenter Mar 2013 #7
Outdoor cooking is man's work. I think it's a law. Recovered Repug Mar 2013 #18
The same reason that they make the medical doctor do it... raging_moderate Mar 2013 #10
Thats a good question..nt Paul E Ester Mar 2013 #11
sometimes I carve it, sometimes my husband carves it liberal_at_heart Mar 2013 #12
I heard that if you chop up cooked meat right away Paul E Ester Mar 2013 #65
In my sister's household, the answer was obvious. Buzz Clik Mar 2013 #13
awesome.....nt alphafemale Mar 2013 #37
Actually, it's pretty ridiculous. Buzz Clik Mar 2013 #42
Sorry... pipi_k Mar 2013 #66
We're all fucking tired of this trivial bullshit hairsplitting. Occulus Mar 2013 #14
This must be more Benevolent Sexism because we progressive men are inherently evil Katashi_itto Mar 2013 #60
Why Do Men Carve The Corn Beef On St. Patrick's Day? kwassa Mar 2013 #15
Beats me. My mom always carved the turkey when I was growing up winter is coming Mar 2013 #16
I didn't know people still carved turkeys. Apophis Mar 2013 #17
I think that is just in movies... Kalidurga Mar 2013 #19
is thanksgiving approaching? spanone Mar 2013 #20
good catch! liberal_at_heart Mar 2013 #21
Best answer on this thread malaise Mar 2013 #82
Obviously mythology Mar 2013 #22
same reAson that women carve the turkey - it's easier to eat in smaller pieces :-) nt msongs Mar 2013 #23
^^^^thread winner^^^^ Z_I_Peevey Mar 2013 #50
men carve the turkey because they're pigs olddots Mar 2013 #25
It's a "head of the household" thing jmowreader Mar 2013 #27
^^THIS treestar Mar 2013 #64
Well, I know one thing... Fawke Em Mar 2013 #68
a picture perfect turkey that needs carving is a dry nasty disaster Kali Mar 2013 #28
In my house, by the time the turkey is on the table, the woman of the house (me) JDPriestly Mar 2013 #30
Because I don't want to... onpatrol98 Mar 2013 #55
Sounds like you spend Thanksgiving at my house. JDPriestly Mar 2013 #80
Because I was trained and used to get paid quaker bill Mar 2013 #31
Tradition. nt Honeycombe8 Mar 2013 #32
Here's how it works at my mom's house on Thanksgiving... LeftofObama Mar 2013 #33
For the same reason they hold doors - they hate and want to oppress women The Straight Story Mar 2013 #34
Two LOLs already this morning, and I haven't even made it to the Lounge to see Salmons LOLcats! Ghost in the Machine Mar 2013 #36
unfortunately this will go over a lot of people's heads olddots Mar 2013 #77
I'da thunk dipsydoodle Mar 2013 #38
In my case... because I suck at it kdmorris Mar 2013 #39
LOL...a wood chipper... onpatrol98 Mar 2013 #61
In order to more easily distribute portions among the others at the table. Folks randomly grabbing bike man Mar 2013 #40
Sounds more renaissance like to me Bay Boy Mar 2013 #79
My mom always carved the turkey, or ham, even to this day. I'll cook a turkey, and take it to my.... Ghost in the Machine Mar 2013 #41
I wasn't aware they did. Not in my family. MadrasT Mar 2013 #43
They must be thinking of Norman Rockwell paintings Puzzledtraveller Mar 2013 #46
My Dad never carved the turkey, but he and my brothers would cut and split wood for the cookstove. eShirl Mar 2013 #44
What? Puzzledtraveller Mar 2013 #45
Who carved Dubya's fake-o turkey? Helen Reddy Mar 2013 #47
Not in my house ellie Mar 2013 #48
My husband carves it 'cause I don't want to and I suck at at it. *shrug* n/t Butterbean Mar 2013 #49
Cause my wife asked me to. yourout Mar 2013 #51
I worry about my husband... peace13 Mar 2013 #52
I cooked the turkey and I wanted to carve the damn thing but... Little Star Mar 2013 #53
I CAN'T BELIEVE YOU CUT THE TURKEY!!!! Squinch Mar 2013 #54
Cornish Game Hens for the win toddaa Mar 2013 #56
hahahaha d_b Mar 2013 #57
You have to ask? matt819 Mar 2013 #58
Spoken like someone who has never seen Guy's Big Bite. n/t flvegan Mar 2013 #59
The carver is the 'Control Freak', controlling who gets what and how much. TheBlackAdder Mar 2013 #62
Thanksgiving??? onpatrol98 Mar 2013 #63
I let... pipi_k Mar 2013 #67
I've been cooking Thanksgiving dinners for 40 years, and I never carve the bird 1-Old-Man Mar 2013 #69
Nobody in my family has ever carved a turkey at the table sylvi Mar 2013 #70
I didn't say Norman Rockwell style snooper2 Mar 2013 #73
My experience as well. hughee99 Mar 2013 #76
Around here the only one who is good at it is my brother NNN0LHI Mar 2013 #71
dad does it because he knows how to fizzgig Mar 2013 #72
to perpetuate patriarchy, through control and the subtle threat of violence (wielding a knife, which arely staircase Mar 2013 #74
Because shooting it would be redundant? WinkyDink Mar 2013 #75
So it won't cross the road like the chicken did? Jamastiene Mar 2013 #78
Why do women carve the pumpkins? NaturalHigh Mar 2013 #81
my wife has me cut the tops, vent, and gut it.. snooper2 Mar 2013 #84
In my house mercuryblues Mar 2013 #83
I do it in my house... one_voice Mar 2013 #85
Because women let them. nolabear Mar 2013 #86

treestar

(82,383 posts)
1. Interesting, don't know
Sat Mar 16, 2013, 11:34 PM
Mar 2013

it was traditional - maybe it's the man who should handle the knives in the house. Something about carving is OK - it's not cooking and is masculine enough. The man is the head of the house and head of the table, so he should do the honors, or something like that.

 

snooper2

(30,151 posts)
3. When I cook the turkey I carve the turkey
Sat Mar 16, 2013, 11:36 PM
Mar 2013

outside of that I'm not responsible for anyone else's fuck-ups


 

Buzz Clik

(38,437 posts)
2. "As Thanksgiving approaches..."??? Well, okay. Anyway, it's because:
Sat Mar 16, 2013, 11:35 PM
Mar 2013

It's actually a menial job that no one who actually cooks cares to do. So, dump it on the slob who hasn't done jack all day.

 

Buzz Clik

(38,437 posts)
8. Err... not right now. Have you been talking to my wife? Is there something I should know?
Sat Mar 16, 2013, 11:46 PM
Mar 2013

Dammit all. Nobody ever tells me anything.

raging_moderate

(147 posts)
10. The same reason that they make the medical doctor do it...
Sat Mar 16, 2013, 11:50 PM
Mar 2013

to make us look bad?? Without fail, any thanksgiving dinner I am at I am always, and mean ALWAYS, expected to carve the damn turkey. I must have missed that day in med school, so I actually had to go online to figure out how to do it half-way correctly so as to not embarrass myself too much. Hint - try cutting off all of the white meat from the carcass in one piece first, then slice it up nice and pretty (in theory anyway).

liberal_at_heart

(12,081 posts)
12. sometimes I carve it, sometimes my husband carves it
Sat Mar 16, 2013, 11:52 PM
Mar 2013

Sometimes my husband gets in a hurry and wants to carve it while it is still steaming hot. If he wants to burn his fingers, go ahead. When I carve it, I let it stand for a little while so it doesn't burn my fingers.

 

Paul E Ester

(952 posts)
65. I heard that if you chop up cooked meat right away
Sun Mar 17, 2013, 01:28 PM
Mar 2013

you'll lose a lot of flavor in the juice that runs out. If you wait a few minutes the juices gel up and stay with the meat.

 

Buzz Clik

(38,437 posts)
13. In my sister's household, the answer was obvious.
Sat Mar 16, 2013, 11:52 PM
Mar 2013

My brother-in-law lost his right arm in Vietnam and had one of the prosthetic hook thingies. He could carry the bird right from the oven to the cutting board on his "hook", and she simply handed him the knife.

pipi_k

(21,020 posts)
66. Sorry...
Sun Mar 17, 2013, 01:44 PM
Mar 2013

It's not a laughing matter, and I really don't mean to laugh, but...

hahahahahah!!!!

The mental movie I get from this is awesome





PS...apologies for my warped sense of humor.

Occulus

(20,599 posts)
14. We're all fucking tired of this trivial bullshit hairsplitting.
Sat Mar 16, 2013, 11:53 PM
Mar 2013

In my family whoever was closest did it. Picked up the electric knife and bzzzzzz.

Oh no, wait. My mom had prepared four other dishes which she got to the table simultaneously with my father, who.... oh no, wait my mom got all the food ready at the same time with the help of her mother-in-law, who despite stereotypes had raised five kids and was one unsinkable batty old bitch who got shit done.

I don't know which Thanksgiving is "proper" and "not sexist": before or after most of the women in my extended family were dead and gone

Each period was different

help

winter is coming

(11,785 posts)
16. Beats me. My mom always carved the turkey when I was growing up
Sat Mar 16, 2013, 11:57 PM
Mar 2013

and it's a toss-up who does the carving in my household. Then again, a lot of media images make it look like one person carves and then plates and food get passed around. Damned stupid way to serve a crowd. We always put the food out on a sideboard and let people take a plate and get what they want. It's a lot faster, and if you really like or can't stand X, you can adjust your portion accordingly.

Kalidurga

(14,177 posts)
19. I think that is just in movies...
Sun Mar 17, 2013, 12:06 AM
Mar 2013

It won't matter in my house though. We won't ever be having turkey here again since I gave up meat. But, back in the day I have seen many women carving turkey's and I did it myself on the holidays were we had turkey. So, I am pretty sure it's a movie thing.

malaise

(268,885 posts)
82. Best answer on this thread
Sun Mar 17, 2013, 05:16 PM
Mar 2013

Still shaking my head - men have never always carved the turkey or any other bird.

 

mythology

(9,527 posts)
22. Obviously
Sun Mar 17, 2013, 12:22 AM
Mar 2013

because the carving of the turkey skill is on the Y chromosome. It's a special skill that the womenfolk just can't handle on account of the intricacy.


 

olddots

(10,237 posts)
25. men carve the turkey because they're pigs
Sun Mar 17, 2013, 01:18 AM
Mar 2013

So pigs carve the turkey ? do turkeys carve the pigs ?
I'm so confused with this subject . Do pigs hold the door for turkeys ?

jmowreader

(50,552 posts)
27. It's a "head of the household" thing
Sun Mar 17, 2013, 01:51 AM
Mar 2013

This is Norman Rockwell's famous painting "Freedom from Want."



Notice two things about it: the turkey has come to the table in one piece (these days, who does that? Who has a table that big anymore?) and Grandfather, the head of the household for this festive meal, has all the equipment sitting there to carve the bird. Oh, and he's wearing a suit. Once again, who does that now?

The Traditional Thanksgiving Meal is cooked by the matriarch of the family, and carved by the patriarch. His laying the slices of succulent turkey on each family member's plate symbolizes his role in giving the family a decent life.

Fawke Em

(11,366 posts)
68. Well, I know one thing...
Sun Mar 17, 2013, 01:53 PM
Mar 2013

That family has my china.

Actually, I inherited my china from my great-grandmother, so it was probably purchased sometime around the time this picture was painted, so it makes sense.

Kali

(55,007 posts)
28. a picture perfect turkey that needs carving is a dry nasty disaster
Sun Mar 17, 2013, 01:56 AM
Mar 2013

sure the skin was nice right when it came out of the oven (and everybody should have just stood there picking at it until it was gone) but I usually cook turkey covered and breast down until the meat falls off the bone. not picturesque, but damn fine eating. whoever is handy can pile onto a serving plate, but it sure as hell isn't gong to slice like some ad on the teevee.

JDPriestly

(57,936 posts)
30. In my house, by the time the turkey is on the table, the woman of the house (me)
Sun Mar 17, 2013, 03:20 AM
Mar 2013

is too exhausted to pick up the knife. That's why. It's not that my husband could not or would not cook the turkey. It's that I like to do it. And if he cuts it, we are all happy.

onpatrol98

(1,989 posts)
55. Because I don't want to...
Sun Mar 17, 2013, 11:31 AM
Mar 2013

My husband always carves, because I never want to. So, in my role as mom and chief mischief maker, I hand him the knife and announce to the family that their father is going to carve the turkey. Then we all sit together as part of a collective joke and watch him battle the bird. Sometimes he wins, sometimes the bird wins. But, regardless a great time is had by everyone...well, everyone except the bird.

quaker bill

(8,224 posts)
31. Because I was trained and used to get paid
Sun Mar 17, 2013, 06:51 AM
Mar 2013

to carve roasted meat on a hot line. It was a cleaner job than carving raw meat, but not as much fun as baking.

LeftofObama

(4,243 posts)
33. Here's how it works at my mom's house on Thanksgiving...
Sun Mar 17, 2013, 06:59 AM
Mar 2013

Since I love to cook I am the one who makes the turkey (and a damn good one too, I might add). After the turkey comes out of the oven I ask the first adult I see male or female if they know how to carve a turkey. If they say, "Well, I think you're supposed to start by....", I tell them to go get started carving. If they say, "No, I don't know anything about that sort of thing." I tell them to go find someone who does because dinner will be ready in a few minutes.

The Straight Story

(48,121 posts)
34. For the same reason they hold doors - they hate and want to oppress women
Sun Mar 17, 2013, 07:26 AM
Mar 2013

That is the only motivation men have when it comes to women. Even if a man does not know it, he is being sexist and mind raping women every time he looks at them and does not see them in his mind's eye as a man.

Us men are terrible beings and women should just love women. And film it.

Ghost in the Machine

(14,912 posts)
36. Two LOLs already this morning, and I haven't even made it to the Lounge to see Salmons LOLcats!
Sun Mar 17, 2013, 07:56 AM
Mar 2013

This might turn into a good day all around!

Peace,

Ghost

kdmorris

(5,649 posts)
39. In my case... because I suck at it
Sun Mar 17, 2013, 08:16 AM
Mar 2013

My husband does the cooking around here, too, so he cooks AND carves the turkey. I tried a couple of times, but it looked like I put the thing through a wood chipper, so it seems best to let him continue it so that they turkey looks edible.

 

bike man

(620 posts)
40. In order to more easily distribute portions among the others at the table. Folks randomly grabbing
Sun Mar 17, 2013, 08:19 AM
Mar 2013

chunks from the whole dead bird is so zombie-like and many people would rather avoid that.

Ghost in the Machine

(14,912 posts)
41. My mom always carved the turkey, or ham, even to this day. I'll cook a turkey, and take it to my....
Sun Mar 17, 2013, 08:26 AM
Mar 2013

... parents' house, 3 doors up from me, but mom likes to carve it. I'll carve it sometimes, if she isn't feeling well, bot other than that, she enjoys doing it. As for the hams, we haven't much worried about that lately since I've been buying the spiral sliced honey hams.

For most of my life, my mom has cooked the Holiday meals, but that all changed when I moved close to them about 12 years or so ago. Now, I cook the turkey or hame, the stuffing, green beans and mashed potatoes & gravy, leaving mom to cook pumpkin pies, sweet potato casserole and, sometimes, corn.

BTW... my Grandmother always carved the turkey and hams at her house, too, so I have no idea where this "men carving the turkey" bunk comes from, but I can take a wild guess just from the link...

Ghost

MadrasT

(7,237 posts)
43. I wasn't aware they did. Not in my family.
Sun Mar 17, 2013, 09:47 AM
Mar 2013

In my family, the turkey gets carved by whoever is nearby and volunteers to do it.

Puzzledtraveller

(5,937 posts)
46. They must be thinking of Norman Rockwell paintings
Sun Mar 17, 2013, 09:54 AM
Mar 2013

Some people still take them to be a representation of life in America.

eShirl

(18,490 posts)
44. My Dad never carved the turkey, but he and my brothers would cut and split wood for the cookstove.
Sun Mar 17, 2013, 09:51 AM
Mar 2013

I even got in on the wood splitting; that's good exercise. One of my brothers has always "got in on" the cooking, too. Nobody ever complained.

ellie

(6,929 posts)
48. Not in my house
Sun Mar 17, 2013, 10:03 AM
Mar 2013

I carve the turkey. I also slice up pies, cakes, and quiches as well as dole out the food.

 

peace13

(11,076 posts)
52. I worry about my husband...
Sun Mar 17, 2013, 11:08 AM
Mar 2013

He makes the gravy, drains the potatoes, and carves the turkey. Oh, I forgot to mention he loves to do the food shopping especially at holiday time.. His dad sat and ate the meals that were prepared for him. My son, doesn't know what all the fuss about holiday's is and while he prepares nothing, eats very little of the holiday feast. There is no hope. Tradition shifts from generation to generation....not always in the direction 'one' would call forward.

Little Star

(17,055 posts)
53. I cooked the turkey and I wanted to carve the damn thing but...
Sun Mar 17, 2013, 11:12 AM
Mar 2013

Noooooo. My husband was so into the art of carving turkey that he looked for different methods to carve and found that he liked Bobby Flay's method best. I agreed with him, Bobby's way is great. I just wish he had been as into preparing the meal and cleaning up the mess! Funny how that works.

http://www.recipedirect.net/cooking-videos-mainmenu-46/25-poultry-cooking-videos/80-how-to-carve-a-turkey.html

Happy Thanksgiving!



Squinch

(50,935 posts)
54. I CAN'T BELIEVE YOU CUT THE TURKEY!!!!
Sun Mar 17, 2013, 11:13 AM
Mar 2013

and he NEVER drank water. No. Never.

Did all these "stop calling me sexist when all I want is to be admired" threads put me into a coma? Is it Thanksgiving already?

matt819

(10,749 posts)
58. You have to ask?
Sun Mar 17, 2013, 12:17 PM
Mar 2013

Because if I don't carve the turkey, it doesn't get carved. I would have to put it on the table, and we would pick at it until it was gone. Come to think of it, that may not be a bad idea. Check in with me after Thanksgiving to see if I give this a try.

TheBlackAdder

(28,182 posts)
62. The carver is the 'Control Freak', controlling who gets what and how much.
Sun Mar 17, 2013, 01:14 PM
Mar 2013

The men in my family generally cook the Thanksgiving meals.

For me, I don't care who picks up the knife and serves... as long as it's not me.
I'm too busy trying not to burn the last minute dinner rolls or grabbing things from the kitchen.

===

I have noticed that those who do grab the knife are the ones who like to be in control.

onpatrol98

(1,989 posts)
63. Thanksgiving???
Sun Mar 17, 2013, 01:17 PM
Mar 2013

Thanksgiving???

What month is this...clearly, I have been asleep at the wheel. I haven't done any Christmas shopping, either.

1-Old-Man

(2,667 posts)
69. I've been cooking Thanksgiving dinners for 40 years, and I never carve the bird
Sun Mar 17, 2013, 02:19 PM
Mar 2013

My wife cooks more now than she ever used to, I've been the primary cook for a very long time. I have always enjoyed making Thanksgiving dinner but when it comes to carving the bird you may as well hand the knife to a monkey as have me take a stab at it. My wife is more than happy to dismember the unfortunate fowl but mostly its been our son who has taken over the duty; he also does the cooking at most of the other yearly get-togethers.

 

sylvi

(813 posts)
70. Nobody in my family has ever carved a turkey at the table
Sun Mar 17, 2013, 02:19 PM
Mar 2013

Nobody in my family has ever carved a turkey at the table, Norman Rockwell style. It gets whacked up in the kitchen by whoever is cooking and set out with the rest of the food. There's never been much formality when it comes to eating, unless you want to count saying Grace as a formality. Certainly not in the presentation. Maybe it's a Southern Thang.

 

snooper2

(30,151 posts)
73. I didn't say Norman Rockwell style
Sun Mar 17, 2013, 03:32 PM
Mar 2013

I just meant doing it period....

I do it on the counter, put a plate full of white meat and another with legs and some dark meat (which I am the only who ends up eating) and people come get it

hughee99

(16,113 posts)
76. My experience as well.
Sun Mar 17, 2013, 03:51 PM
Mar 2013

When my mother took the turkey out of the oven, she carved it. When my father did, he carved it. It was always done in the kitchen and not part of some display.

arely staircase

(12,482 posts)
74. to perpetuate patriarchy, through control and the subtle threat of violence (wielding a knife, which
Sun Mar 17, 2013, 03:46 PM
Mar 2013

which is both deadly and phallic).



Jamastiene

(38,187 posts)
78. So it won't cross the road like the chicken did?
Sun Mar 17, 2013, 04:06 PM
Mar 2013

You can't rightly eat a turkey that crosses the road after it has been cooked, now, can you?

See? There is a reason for everything. At my house, I do the cooking, carving, and plating up the food, so it will last a couple meals. That way I don't have to damn wash dishes so fast and cook again so soon. The only man at my house, though, is my cat. He doesn't care who carves the damn bird, as long as he gets a few bites and some gravy to go along with it.

mercuryblues

(14,530 posts)
83. In my house
Sun Mar 17, 2013, 07:09 PM
Mar 2013

When the meal finally makes it to the table, no one in my house is stupid enough to put a carving knife and fork in my hand.

one_voice

(20,043 posts)
85. I do it in my house...
Sun Mar 17, 2013, 07:21 PM
Mar 2013

my husband would fuck it up beyond all recognition, and he knows it, that's why wants me to do it. I cook it too.

nolabear

(41,959 posts)
86. Because women let them.
Sun Mar 17, 2013, 07:25 PM
Mar 2013

Kidding! Kidding! I think it's just tradition and an archaic nod to men as head of the family. I like it. I'm usually whipped by then. But Mr. Bear and I are secure in our division, pretty much. We both take equally outrageous advantage of one another when we don't want to take on a task.

Latest Discussions»General Discussion»Why Do Men Carve The Turk...