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malaise

(268,693 posts)
Sun Mar 17, 2013, 04:12 PM Mar 2013

Iraq war planning wholly irresponsible...Rumsfeld and Bremer "intellectually bankrupt"!!!

http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2013/mar/17/iraq-war-planning-wholly-irresponsible
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The way Britain was led into war with Iraq 10 years ago was "wholly irresponsible" and the lack of intelligence on the country a national disgrace, senior military figures have told the Guardian.

Though they direct their fire principally at the Bush administration, they make clear the Blair government must share a lot of the blame.

Donald Rumsfeld, US defence secretary at the time, had a "lot to answer for", Guthrie added, referring to the way Rumsfeld, notorious for his "stuff happens" description of widespread looting in Baghdad, allowed Paul Bremer, the US chief administrator – in effect the US governor of Iraq after the invasion – to ban the Ba'ath party and dismantle the Iraqi army.

"Why did Bremer squash any sense of the Iraqi people taking any role in their own destiny?" asked Air Chief Marshal Sir Brian Burridge, commander of British forces in Iraq at the time of the invasion. "That defies logic."

General Sir Mike Jackson, head of the army at the time, described Rumsfeld and Bremer as "intellectually bankrupt". With other British defence chiefs, he expected and wanted Iraqi military units, including Saddam Hussein's Republican Guard, to remain in place and help maintain law and order in Iraq after the invasion.
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Intellectually bankrupt is kind.
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Iraq war planning wholly irresponsible...Rumsfeld and Bremer "intellectually bankrupt"!!! (Original Post) malaise Mar 2013 OP
Of course they were intellectually bankrupt--but Bush and Cheney are primarily responsible. TwilightGardener Mar 2013 #1
I agree 100% malaise Mar 2013 #2
I can see the revisionist history machine cranking up, protecting figures like Blair and Junior TwilightGardener Mar 2013 #7
Intellectually and morally bankrupt. PDJane Mar 2013 #3
They should be sent into the dungeon malaise Mar 2013 #4
I'll accept that too, provided the dungeon is at the Hague. PDJane Mar 2013 #6
Yes that's the place for them n/t malaise Mar 2013 #8
Nice link here malaise Mar 2013 #5
What are the odds that someone made a lot of money on this? AnotherMcIntosh Mar 2013 #9
I would say 1/9 malaise Mar 2013 #10

TwilightGardener

(46,416 posts)
1. Of course they were intellectually bankrupt--but Bush and Cheney are primarily responsible.
Sun Mar 17, 2013, 04:13 PM
Mar 2013

The buck stops with THEM.

TwilightGardener

(46,416 posts)
7. I can see the revisionist history machine cranking up, protecting figures like Blair and Junior
Sun Mar 17, 2013, 04:17 PM
Mar 2013

and FiveDeferments by throwing cabinet members and underlings under the bus. Not that Rummy doesn't deserve the poo flung his way, mind you...

PDJane

(10,103 posts)
3. Intellectually and morally bankrupt.
Sun Mar 17, 2013, 04:15 PM
Mar 2013

The crazies should have been left in the basement. That was true of Cheney and Bush, too; they were part of that group from the beginning.

This was a mistake that can't be wiped out, no matter how the bush bunch attempt to expunge the record.

 

AnotherMcIntosh

(11,064 posts)
9. What are the odds that someone made a lot of money on this?
Sun Mar 17, 2013, 04:20 PM
Mar 2013

Including those who not don't care whether others call them "morally bankrupt."?

malaise

(268,693 posts)
10. I would say 1/9
Sun Mar 17, 2013, 04:36 PM
Mar 2013

'made money' doesn't describe the profits from that illegal invasion and occupation.
Men got filthy rich.

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