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Smarmie Doofus

(14,498 posts)
Sun Mar 17, 2013, 10:21 PM Mar 2013

From 2005: Freepers Brainstorm How to Break Teachers Unions

Fascinating stuff. Read past the post and on into the comments.

>>>The power of the teachers unions within the DemocRATic Party is enormous. A big percentage of delegates at their conventions are teachers.

Can someone start by volunteering to be in charge of an AT WAR WITH THE TEACHERS UNIONS ping list? Will someone or several someones volunteer to help with assigning tasks?

Make no mistake about it. Hillary Clinton is depending on these foot soldiers to carry her back into the White House.>>>


History is useful because it allows perspective. Perspective deepens understanding.

So the question is: why have so many Democrats... electeds ( a lot of them are $$$-off; so I at least understand that) of course, but also a lot people HERE, gone over to that "side"?

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1519119/posts#comment?q=1

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From 2005: Freepers Brainstorm How to Break Teachers Unions (Original Post) Smarmie Doofus Mar 2013 OP
Not me. Never. Aristus Mar 2013 #1
This worked in Wisconsin. reteachinwi Mar 2013 #2
Goodness are you taking freepers seriously? dkf Mar 2013 #3
Not at all. Exactly the opposite. But apparently many DEMs have. n/t Smarmie Doofus Mar 2013 #7
The GOP doesn't have to break teachers' unions. madfloridian Mar 2013 #4
My point exactly. What I can't figure out is exactly when.... Smarmie Doofus Mar 2013 #5
I am still in disbelief about a lot of it. madfloridian Mar 2013 #6
That's a good comparison Nevernose Mar 2013 #8
The IWR was a reawakening for me. Smarmie Doofus Mar 2013 #9
This message was self-deleted by its author Sadiedog Mar 2013 #10

madfloridian

(88,117 posts)
4. The GOP doesn't have to break teachers' unions.
Sun Mar 17, 2013, 11:33 PM
Mar 2013

The new education "reforms" supported by both parties are doing a fine job of that.

 

Smarmie Doofus

(14,498 posts)
5. My point exactly. What I can't figure out is exactly when....
Sun Mar 17, 2013, 11:50 PM
Mar 2013

.... it became acceptable , even *respectable* for Democrats to echo the idiotic and hysterical ravings of the far right on the question of public education.

Was it about the same time that it became *profitable*? For example, around the same time Gates et al started pouring hundreds millions all over the issue like so much pancake syrup?

I'd like to think that most people running w. a D after their names are better than that. But what I'd like to think and what I increasingly find myself thinking are increasingly two different things.

madfloridian

(88,117 posts)
6. I am still in disbelief about a lot of it.
Sun Mar 17, 2013, 11:52 PM
Mar 2013

It's just like before the Iraq war...we who fear what is being done in our name are ignored and often insulted by our own party.

Nevernose

(13,081 posts)
8. That's a good comparison
Sun Mar 17, 2013, 11:59 PM
Mar 2013

"Just sit tight, commoners, and let the experts deal with the major crisis." And then we're left trying to solve a largely artificial problem.

 

Smarmie Doofus

(14,498 posts)
9. The IWR was a reawakening for me.
Mon Mar 18, 2013, 12:03 AM
Mar 2013

Less that it passed than that so many DEMS supported it.

I would have believed it in the seventies. But got complacent/"moderate"/"pragmatic" by the 90's. Clinton was not Gingrich, after all.

Then: 2002... I could not believe what I was seeing and hearing. i.e. What many DEMs in congress were doing and saying.

There are a lot of parallels here, I'll give ya that.

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