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Tx4obama

(36,974 posts)
Mon Mar 18, 2013, 12:32 AM Mar 2013

OMG!!! Unbelievable! Have ya'll seen this? (History Channel's Obama/Satan look-alike controversy)


Obama As The Devil? The History Channel’s The Bible’s Stunning Look-alike

Article and screenshot PHOTO here: http://www.mediaite.com/online/obama-as-the-devil-the-history-channels-the-bibles-stunning-look-alike/

Can't believe this crap was aired on the History channel!


Edited to add...

The photo below is from the History Channel's website, the caption to the photo says: Satan




http://www.history.com/shows/the-bible/pictures/episode-3-hope/the-bible-46

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OMG!!! Unbelievable! Have ya'll seen this? (History Channel's Obama/Satan look-alike controversy) (Original Post) Tx4obama Mar 2013 OP
This just confirms what I've long suspected... Comrade Grumpy Mar 2013 #1
ALIENS AtheistCrusader Mar 2013 #17
Beck thinks all black men look alike ZRT2209 Mar 2013 #2
This morning on CBS' "Sunday Morning", Roma Downey (Tess) snappyturtle Mar 2013 #3
I've added a photo from the History Channel's website to the OP up above. n/t Tx4obama Mar 2013 #5
I've been looking for a picture of the actor, Mohamen Mehdi Quazanni, who portrayed the devil. snappyturtle Mar 2013 #7
Ouazanni is listed as being in two episodes of 'The Bible': 'Hope' and 'Passion' Tx4obama Mar 2013 #10
I wrote down "O" but I thought I must have seen it wrong. Time to go to bed! snappyturtle Mar 2013 #11
A Buzzfeed post says the photo below is him Tx4obama Mar 2013 #13
This name too "Mehdi Ovazzani". Life Long Dem Mar 2013 #14
He looks pretty good in the photo below, I'd get on the back of his Harley if he had one ;) Tx4obama Mar 2013 #15
They've been doing subliminal pix on Obama since Day One. Now they got THC to push the fear. freshwest Mar 2013 #21
+1 nt snappyturtle Mar 2013 #53
I watched it today and Roma Downey does not play Mary brush Mar 2013 #16
Funny, Roma said very plainly she plays Mary. Pic manipulation? Maybe. nt snappyturtle Mar 2013 #25
May be later Roma Downey plays Mary brush Mar 2013 #27
Sorry. I teach English literature (at the college level). tblue37 Mar 2013 #38
Good point. nt snappyturtle Mar 2013 #54
It is produced by reality TV kingpin Mark Burnett, so I guess I'm not surprised. Kennah Mar 2013 #4
Obama looks pretty cool there LittleBlue Mar 2013 #6
Their remarkably dark, one might even say African, Satan LadyHawkAZ Mar 2013 #8
Why, that man positively SCREAMS Middle Eastern to me!!1 Number23 Mar 2013 #9
At least when Jesus Christ Superstar did it LadyHawkAZ Mar 2013 #37
That hole is uttery stupid. defacto7 Mar 2013 #18
I think I saw that Jesus at Bonnaroo last summer ... Myrina Mar 2013 #34
All that time on the cross and his hair is still clean and flowing! Arugula Latte Mar 2013 #35
And it looks so nice with that neatly trimmed beard! LadyHawkAZ Mar 2013 #36
I don't see him as looking like Obama Demo_Chris Mar 2013 #12
Who owns the History Channel ? they finance this garbage olddots Mar 2013 #19
Nothing but toxic waste. freshwest Mar 2013 #22
A&E owns History, and Disney owns A&E. dixiegrrrrl Mar 2013 #23
You "Can't believe this crap was aired on the History channel!"? Egalitarian Thug Mar 2013 #20
Well said! randome Mar 2013 #24
Yep, same thing with "TLC - the Learning (cough cough) Channel" Myrina Mar 2013 #33
Yeah I almost never watch TV but last night as I was channel surfing SomethingFishy Mar 2013 #40
YES, I get to post my favorite link AGAIN joeglow3 Mar 2013 #48
Oh come on - consider the source and the audience merh Mar 2013 #26
And in a hoodie no less! Zambero Mar 2013 #28
Hah! Good one. nt brush Mar 2013 #30
I much prefer Lucifer as played by Peter Stormare in Constantine ... Myrina Mar 2013 #29
It was brilliant casting, and even more brilliant acting. Ikonoklast Mar 2013 #45
so much for history and learning DonRedwood Mar 2013 #31
Ya just saw that in another thread. Rex Mar 2013 #32
He doesn't really look like Obama to me n/t Dpm12 Mar 2013 #39
heard talk bout it on talk radio this morning. Said the devil looked like an older Obama. yep Liberal_in_LA Mar 2013 #41
Statements made by History Channel and Producers.. Cha Mar 2013 #42
Was this after offering up the Big 3 to the GOP? RedCloud Mar 2013 #43
Well it is a man and he appears to be black....... yellowcanine Mar 2013 #44
Watch him in action. It doesn't really look like him at all. Xithras Mar 2013 #46
A screenshot below of a TV screen Tx4obama Mar 2013 #49
Okay.... ProudToBeBlueInRhody Mar 2013 #52
Looks to me like the History Channel has been totally compromised by conservatives, Zorra Mar 2013 #47
I agree that in motion he bears no resemblance. MY beef is that all women are depicted as conniving nolabear Mar 2013 #50
Not to defend the History Channel, Blue_In_AK Mar 2013 #51
Silly me...I always thought Satan was a blonde Nazi. David Zephyr Mar 2013 #55
Satan is a creepy half-black man wearing a hoodie. Quantess Mar 2013 #56
History channel was overtaken by the moonpie/ers a long time ago. lonestarnot Mar 2013 #57

snappyturtle

(14,656 posts)
3. This morning on CBS' "Sunday Morning", Roma Downey (Tess)
Mon Mar 18, 2013, 12:48 AM
Mar 2013

from Touched by an Angel and husband, Mike Burnett, creator of "Survivor" and other reality teevee programs, promoted their new Bible series. Roma said that whether one believes or not one should know the stories of the Bible. (Wonder if she feels the same about the Koran?) She plays the role of Mary, Mother of Jesus.

They quickly flashed through scenes in the series with the special effects depicting the parting of the Red Sea by Moses. They did show a scene with the devil shown in the link but it went by so quickly I didn't get a good look.

It is a striking resemblance and more evidence of the hatred of the President. (imho) I didn't watch it tonight....better things to do.

snappyturtle

(14,656 posts)
7. I've been looking for a picture of the actor, Mohamen Mehdi Quazanni, who portrayed the devil.
Mon Mar 18, 2013, 01:19 AM
Mar 2013

I wanted to see if his natural appearance is a true resemblance or if he was made up to look like the President. No luck. Couldn't find a picture. The title of tonight's episode is "Hope" ??????

Thanks Tx4obama for posting the picture.

Tx4obama

(36,974 posts)
10. Ouazanni is listed as being in two episodes of 'The Bible': 'Hope' and 'Passion'
Mon Mar 18, 2013, 01:52 AM
Mar 2013

IMDB: http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0653405/

Btw, his last name starts with an 'O'.
His full name is Mohamen Mehdi Ouazanni, but most of his films he is listed as Mehdi Oauzanni

snappyturtle

(14,656 posts)
11. I wrote down "O" but I thought I must have seen it wrong. Time to go to bed!
Mon Mar 18, 2013, 02:00 AM
Mar 2013

Yeah, I saw he is appearing in two episodes. I also put my boots on and tripped over to FReeper land as it popped up in my search. Think your darkest thoughts and that's what's being said there. I think the creators, the director, the producers, the actor....all...knew what they were doing. It certainly has not gone un-noticed. Time will tell. In any case, it's taking a dark skinned person to portray evil period. Not good. imho

freshwest

(53,661 posts)
21. They've been doing subliminal pix on Obama since Day One. Now they got THC to push the fear.
Mon Mar 18, 2013, 03:58 AM
Mar 2013

If people don't step away from Goebbels, we're gonna have a mess. This is totally dishonest and dishonorable, but they have no shame, none of them.

brush

(53,764 posts)
16. I watched it today and Roma Downey does not play Mary
Mon Mar 18, 2013, 02:40 AM
Mar 2013

It's a young actress, after all Roma Downey has to be looking at 50. Also, the Satan character looked nothing like the President as it ran. There is a filter in Photoshop that can age people the more you dial it up. I wouldn't be surprise if there has been some manipulation of parts of this image.

brush

(53,764 posts)
27. May be later Roma Downey plays Mary
Mon Mar 18, 2013, 01:51 PM
Mar 2013

Maybe later on in the series when Jesus is older (not aired yet) but the nativity scenes shown yesterday with Mary giving birth in a manger, definitely was not Roma Downey, who like I said, must be pushing 50. If that was Roma Downey their make-up artist deserves a lifetime Immy. It had to be a young 20-something actress. Picture manipulation, btw, is extremely difficult with moving images, unlike with a single still image that a skilled graphics person can created layer after layer in Photoshop and combine or delete or darken or age all or parts of images, and even superimpose a layer or layers of a manipulated image onto another image altogether. And it can be done seamlessly if the person doing it is skilled enough. I know because work in the field. I'd like to know the source of that image that's been plastered all over the web. Could it be . . . Satan . . . er, ahh, I mean some right wing site/source.

tblue37

(65,318 posts)
38. Sorry. I teach English literature (at the college level).
Mon Mar 18, 2013, 03:05 PM
Mar 2013

Last edited Mon Mar 18, 2013, 11:34 PM - Edit history (1)

I also tutor in almost all subjects in the humanities--art history, history, anthropology, philosophy, Western Civilization, etc.

I am an atheist, but when I teach literature or any of those other subjects, have to make sure my students understand the historical and conceptual background of the material we cover, as well as the relevant allusions.

In the same way that our cultural foundation includes the Greek philosophers (especially Socrates, Plato, and Aristotle), as well as the Greek and Roman myths, it also includes the Judaeo-Christian scriptures and many, many centuries during which all of Europe was Christendom. You simply cannot teach the philosophy, art, literature, or history of the Western world without including the bible. I often have to explain to so-called "Christians" in my classes all kinds of stuff they are supposed to know about from their own religion, but of course they often don't know about those things, because even though they call themselves "Christians," for many of them that is just the name of a club they belong to, like being a Cubs fan or a Girl Scout.

Here's a good one for you. Three times I have been called on to tutor seminary students working on a master's degree in theology. They must study the foundational texts of their particular sect (in all three cases my students were training as Methodist ministers), but reading fairly difficult texts (the kind I call "chewy&quot is pretty much beyond a lot of students these days, so I walk them through the texts and explain the parts they have trouble understanding.

They are really lucky that I have such a strong ethical streak. I have often thought about how tutoring future ministers put me in a position to subtly twist their comprehension of the tenets of their faith! Of course I would never do such a thing, but it does amuse me to think about the fact that I, an atheist, am teaching them what they are supposed to believe and to teach to their future congregations!

Both of my kids are also atheists, but when they were young, I made sure they learned all the bible stories, too--right along with all the Greek and Roman myths, as well as the Norse myths and many of the myths of Africa, Japan, China, etc. They also learned the fairy tales and legends of Europe and the American West.

I never directly tried to tell them what to believe or not to believe--I figured that as adults they could make their own choices. Their dad and stepmom took them to Roman Catholic church services and had them baptized in the RC church. But I did make sure that they were familiar with a wide range of mythologies, which undoubtedly helped them to see how the biblical scriptures fit into belief systems of certain times and places. (They also knew that I was not a believer, of course--but since their other family were churched, I figured they weren't being pressured by knowing about my lack of belief.)

My very religious Sicilian-American grandparents kept boxes full of children's books full of bible stories. (They also made sure my 5 siblings and I were confirmed in their church when we ended up living nearby after Dad retired from the Air Force.) I loved to read those bible stories as a child, and when I was old enough to read the original (the bible itself) I read it, too, a lot! To me, it was just more interesting stories, and then when I got older, it also became a glimpse into another time and place, basically an anthropological study. Even as an atheist, my daughter attended bible study classes as a college undergrad, just because like me, she was interested in the stuff as literature and as a cultural study.

Richard Dawkins says he tells Christians that they are also atheists--but he just believes in one less god than they do, because they are atheists with respect to the gods of the Greek and Roman pantheon (and any other mythology they might be familiar with).

It is frustrating to me that my literature students--even "Christians"--cannot be taught to understand and appreciate poetry or stories until I first explain to them what the allusions mean, even when the allusions are to ideas, phrases, or images from their own religion or from their own scriptures! (For example, not one of the Christians in any of my classes for the last two decades has recognized the phrase "three score and ten" or understood that it refers to the allotted span of human life, as referenced in Psalm 90:



The days of our years are threescore years and ten;
and if by reason of strength they be fourscore years,
yet is their strength labor and sorrow;
for it is soon cut off, and we fly away.


Just as examples, Shakespeare refers to this allotment in Macbeth, and so does A.E. Housman in "Loveliest of Trees, the Cherry Now." Here is a stanza from the Housman poem:

<snip>

Now, of my threescore years and ten,
Twenty will not come again,
And take from seventy springs a score,
It only leaves me fifty more.

<snip>


See what I mean?

LadyHawkAZ

(6,199 posts)
8. Their remarkably dark, one might even say African, Satan
Mon Mar 18, 2013, 01:40 AM
Mar 2013

goes well with their remarkably light, one might even say European, Jesus.



This is why I avoid the TV.

Number23

(24,544 posts)
9. Why, that man positively SCREAMS Middle Eastern to me!!1
Mon Mar 18, 2013, 01:45 AM
Mar 2013

Yeah, I share your

As for the evil person of course being dark and the good person being portrayed as light, SSDY(ear).

LadyHawkAZ

(6,199 posts)
37. At least when Jesus Christ Superstar did it
Mon Mar 18, 2013, 02:33 PM
Mar 2013

they did it with some good music and really sexy actors.

defacto7

(13,485 posts)
18. That hole is uttery stupid.
Mon Mar 18, 2013, 03:19 AM
Mar 2013

Looks like he was playing with his hand gun again. No, more like a giant hole puncher did it. Maybe home-made laser made from a DVD-R... You just can't point those anywhere.

Myrina

(12,296 posts)
34. I think I saw that Jesus at Bonnaroo last summer ...
Mon Mar 18, 2013, 02:23 PM
Mar 2013
dirty unwashed nature-loving hippie socialist!!
 

Arugula Latte

(50,566 posts)
35. All that time on the cross and his hair is still clean and flowing!
Mon Mar 18, 2013, 02:24 PM
Mar 2013

It's a miracle. A MIRACLE, I tell you!!!

 

olddots

(10,237 posts)
19. Who owns the History Channel ? they finance this garbage
Mon Mar 18, 2013, 03:31 AM
Mar 2013

Old Rupert owns the National Geographic channel.......... jeeez the plot thickens

dixiegrrrrl

(60,010 posts)
23. A&E owns History, and Disney owns A&E.
Mon Mar 18, 2013, 11:46 AM
Mar 2013

"History, formerly known as The History Channel, is a US-based international satellite and cable TV channel
owned by A&E Television Networks.
It originally broadcast documentary programs and historical fiction series.
However since 2008, it has mostly broadcast a variety of scripted "reality" television series and other nonhistory-related content."
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_%28TV_channel%29

"A&E Television Networks (Doing business as A+E Networks and formerly also known as AETN) is an American media company that owns a group of television channels available via cable & satellite in the US and abroad.
A&E stands for Arts & Entertainment.
The company is a joint venture between Hearst Corporation and Disney-ABC Television Group, a subsidiary of The Walt Disney Company."
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/A%2BE_Networks

 

Egalitarian Thug

(12,448 posts)
20. You "Can't believe this crap was aired on the History channel!"?
Mon Mar 18, 2013, 03:45 AM
Mar 2013

How many hours a day do you spend bathing in the warm blue light in supplication to the God of Dumb?

The History channel? The channel that brings you such informative, historical shows as; The Bible, American Pickers (I don't even want to know), Pawn Stars (I live here believe me, they are not stars by any stretch of the definition), Men who built America (I feel certain a 21st century version of Horatio Alger's dreck), Ax Men, Big Rig Bounty Hunters, Swamp People, Ultimate Soldier Challenge...

I just can't look anymore, my IQ dropped 10 points just perusing their website to get the names of these shows.

For the future's sake, kill your TV. You don't even know how far you've fallen.

Myrina

(12,296 posts)
33. Yep, same thing with "TLC - the Learning (cough cough) Channel"
Mon Mar 18, 2013, 02:22 PM
Mar 2013

Lookit how far that channel has deteriorated .... honey boo boo, the palins, my big greek wedding, 19 kids & counting etc etc ... dreck. total dreck.

SomethingFishy

(4,876 posts)
40. Yeah I almost never watch TV but last night as I was channel surfing
Mon Mar 18, 2013, 03:20 PM
Mar 2013

waiting for the Walking Dead to come on I passed a channel marked H2 which I think is supposed to be the History Channel 2. They were talking about "Area 51" and some huge military underground that exists under the whole country. The kicker was when they showed the narrator it was Alex Jones.

I shut the TV off and played guitar until The Walking Dead came on.

merh

(35,996 posts)
26. Oh come on - consider the source and the audience
Mon Mar 18, 2013, 01:36 PM
Mar 2013

These are the same folks that accept Roma Downey as a teenage Mary, Mother of Jesus.

Makes me laugh every time I see her in the role in clips.

I wouldn't watch the show if you paid me, it is about making money and putting their spin on things, they are the folks in the temple that made Jesus get all angry, imho.

Zambero

(8,964 posts)
28. And in a hoodie no less!
Mon Mar 18, 2013, 02:16 PM
Mar 2013

Per chance does a dead ringer for Romney show up in this series as the Angel Gabriel?

Myrina

(12,296 posts)
29. I much prefer Lucifer as played by Peter Stormare in Constantine ...
Mon Mar 18, 2013, 02:19 PM
Mar 2013


He chewed the scenery brilliantly, and had about the same sense of humor/irony/evil that one would expect someone/thing like Lu to have.

Ikonoklast

(23,973 posts)
45. It was brilliant casting, and even more brilliant acting.
Mon Mar 18, 2013, 04:41 PM
Mar 2013

He creeped me right the fuck out in his scene....the bare feet dripping viscous black goo, the utter banality.

Cha

(297,136 posts)
42. Statements made by History Channel and Producers..
Mon Mar 18, 2013, 04:15 PM
Mar 2013
So in the continuing saga of History Channel and the Obama-looking Satanic character, here are 3 statements made by the History Channel and the produces in response to the Twitter uproar last night.

1. UPDATE (March 18): The History Channel says in a statement Monday:
HISTORY channel has the highest respect for President Obama. The series was produced with an international and diverse cast of respected actors. It’s unfortunate that anyone made this false connection. HISTORY’s ‘The Bible’ is meant to enlighten people on its rich stories and deep history.”

2. “The Bible” Executive Producers, Mark Burnett & Roma Downey said Monday:
“This is utter nonsense. The actor who played Satan, Mehdi Ouzaani, is a highly acclaimed Moroccan actor. He has previously played parts in several Biblical epics– including Satanic characters long before Barack Obama was elected as our President.

3. “The Bible” Executive Producer Roma Downey adds:
Both Mark and I have nothing but respect and love our President, who is a fellow Christian. False statements such as these are just designed as a foolish distraction to try and discredit the beauty of the story of The Bible.”

http://www.buzzfeed.com/andrewkaczynski/history-channels-satan-looks-a-lot-like-barack-obama

http://theobamadiary.com/2013/03/18/rise-and-shine-460/#comments

yellowcanine

(35,699 posts)
44. Well it is a man and he appears to be black.......
Mon Mar 18, 2013, 04:23 PM
Mar 2013

Yep, dead ringer for Obama! There is only so much Righteous Indignation. Let's reserve it for when it is truly justified.

Xithras

(16,191 posts)
46. Watch him in action. It doesn't really look like him at all.
Mon Mar 18, 2013, 04:57 PM
Mar 2013

IMHO, they found one moment, and one camera angle, where he may have worn a facial expression similar to one seen in some Obama photos, but there really wasn't much of a resemblance outside of that one brief screengrab. Skip to the very end of this Youtube video to see the actor actually speaking...I didn't see any hint of Obama.



The actor isn't even black...he's a well known Moroccan actor who has played these kinds of roles before.

ProudToBeBlueInRhody

(16,399 posts)
52. Okay....
Mon Mar 18, 2013, 06:50 PM
Mar 2013

I'm sure if I try hard enough I can pause and screen shot something from a movie that makes Kate Beckinsale look kinda hideous.

It doesn't look like President Obama. Period.

Zorra

(27,670 posts)
47. Looks to me like the History Channel has been totally compromised by conservatives,
Mon Mar 18, 2013, 05:01 PM
Mar 2013

and it might be time for progressives to stage a boycott of the corporate advertisers of the channel.

That shot/actor is not an error, it/he is being used as a deliberate malicious attack on the President, IMO.

nolabear

(41,959 posts)
50. I agree that in motion he bears no resemblance. MY beef is that all women are depicted as conniving
Mon Mar 18, 2013, 05:45 PM
Mar 2013

Yes, I only lasted 1 1/2 episodes in so maybe they did a little nod to the few stories in the Bible where women were anything other than manipulators and malcontents and prostitutes. But while they left out Lot offering his daughters to the angels (who were remarkably Asian and had mad martial arts skills) they blamed his wife for his breaking with Abraham in the first place, didn't hesitate to make Delilah a prostitute, forgot Judith and Bathsheba and Ruth and made Sarah a jealous schemer.

So I got pissed off and went home early.

Betcha the Magdalene isn't shown as a disciple either.

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