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Scuba

(53,475 posts)
Mon Mar 18, 2013, 01:11 PM Mar 2013

I've never said this before but here goes: You need to forward this to "All"

http://petitions.whitehouse.gov/petition/please-consider-and-promote-progressive-caucus-budget-plan-we-feel-it-most-equitable/10078lWf


This is a White House petition to "consider and promote the Progressive Caucus Budget".

If ever there was an issue the White House should be promoting, this is it.


Here's the 2013 Progressive Caucus Budget release from Reps. Keith Ellison and Raúl M. Grijalva ...


http://www.washingtonpost.com/r/2010-2019/WashingtonPost/2013/02/05/Editorial-Opinion/Graphics/Balancing%20Act%20-%20Executive%20Summary.pdf


more coverage ...

Poll: The Most Popular Plan To Avert Looming Budget Cuts Is The Progressive Caucus’

http://thinkprogress.org/economy/2013/02/27/1647221/progressive-sequester-plan-most-popular/

There are several plans floating around to replace the so-called “sequester” spending cuts scheduled to kick in on Friday. Senate Democrats and the Congressional Progressive Caucus have both released their own plans, while House Republicans have not released a new plan, but point to one passed in the last Congress.

According to a new poll commissioned by the Business Insider, the Progressive Caucus’ plan is the most popular of the three:

– Surprisingly, the plan that polled the strongest was the House Progressive Caucus plan. More than half of respondents supported it compared to sequestration and just a fifth of respondents were opposed.

– A plurality of people — 28 percent — believed the House Progressive Caucus Plan would have the least financial impact on them personally. This makes the most sense, as only 14 percent of respondents reported having income over $150,000.


The deficit busting Progressive Caucus People's Budget

http://cpc.grijalva.house.gov/index.cfm?sectionid=70

Budget of the Congressional Progressive Caucus Fiscal Year 2012

The People’s Budget eliminates the deficit in 10 years, puts Americans back to work and restores our economic competitiveness. The People’s Budget recognizes that in order to compete, our nation needs every American to be productive, and in order to be productive we need to raise our skills to meet modern needs.

Our Budget Eliminates the Deficit and Raises a $31 Billion Surplus In Ten Years
Our budget protects Social Security, Medicare and Medicaid and responsibly eliminates the deficit by targeting its main drivers: the Bush Tax Cuts, the wars overseas, and the causes and effects of the recent recession.

Our Budget Puts America Back to Work & Restores America’s Competitiveness
• Trains teachers and restores schools; rebuilds roads and bridges and ensures that users help pay for them
• Invests in job creation, clean energy and broadband infrastructure, housing and R&D programs

Our Budget Creates a Fairer Tax System
• Ends the recently passed upper-income tax cuts and lets Bush-era tax cuts expire at the end of 2012
• Extends tax credits for the middle class, families, and students
• Creates new tax brackets that range from 45% starting at $1 million to 49% for $1 billion or more
• Implements a progressive estate tax
• Eliminates corporate welfare for oil, gas, and coal companies; closes loopholes for multinational corporations
• Enacts a financial crisis responsibility fee and a financial speculation tax on derivatives and foreign exchange

Our Budget Protects Health
• Enacts a health care public option and negotiates prescription payments with pharmaceutical companies
• Prevents any cuts to Medicare physician payments for a decade

Our Budget Safeguards Social Security for the Next 75 Years
• Eliminates the individual Social Security payroll cap to make sure upper income earners pay their fair share
• Increases benefits based on higher contributions on the employee side

Our Budget Brings Our Troops Home
• Responsibly ends our wars in Iraq and Afghanistan to leave America more secure both home and abroad
• Cuts defense spending by reducing conventional forces, procurement, and costly R&D programs

Our Budget’s Bottom Line
• Deficit reduction of $5.6 trillion
• Spending cuts of $1.7 trillion
• Revenue increase of $3.9 trillion
• Public investment $1.7 trillion
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I've never said this before but here goes: You need to forward this to "All" (Original Post) Scuba Mar 2013 OP
Signed and DU rec'd. 2naSalit Mar 2013 #1
done...K&R hwmnbn Mar 2013 #2
I was signature #21 ashling Mar 2013 #3
Hell yes! daleanime Mar 2013 #4
Number 76 Lydia Leftcoast Mar 2013 #5
and I was #75. It appears we are joined at the hip. 1-Old-Man Mar 2013 #11
Looks Good, But How Would You Get Something Like This Through the House? AndyTiedye Mar 2013 #6
At the moment it will do for this to be the White House position 1-Old-Man Mar 2013 #10
Number 80 Worried senior Mar 2013 #7
k/r....and acted upon. marmar Mar 2013 #8
more revenue also TOO! pansypoo53219 Mar 2013 #9
Done. n/t winter is coming Mar 2013 #12
I was 91. I also sent an email to my HOR Rep. nm rhett o rick Mar 2013 #13
Too complicated juajen Mar 2013 #14
ALSO: Send Letters to the Editor, and Call In Talk Shows. bvar22 Mar 2013 #15
Nice kick. Thanks. Scuba Mar 2013 #18
This is a NO-BRAINER, and anyone who doesn't support it should just join the "Starve Granny" caucus! grahamhgreen Mar 2013 #16
Signed - K&R - also please consider signing too big to jail Smilo Mar 2013 #17
Done & K&R! patrice Mar 2013 #32
Damn Straight titanicdave Mar 2013 #19
did and done retired rooster Mar 2013 #20
Done Berlum Mar 2013 #21
Signed, Rec, and posted to Facebook. 99Forever Mar 2013 #22
K&R sheshe2 Mar 2013 #23
99,876 to go. UnrepentantLiberal Mar 2013 #24
Thanks, Scuba. I'm the 135th person to sign. n/t jamesatemple Mar 2013 #25
Signed, K&R, Facebooked (nt) Babel_17 Mar 2013 #26
My signature was #140 ON THIS PETITION Vincardog Mar 2013 #27
#141 timdog44 Mar 2013 #28
KICKING! patrice Mar 2013 #29
kicked Fawke Em Mar 2013 #30
K&R&Done. n/t Egalitarian Thug Mar 2013 #31
Signed it, thanks. - eom dreamnightwind Mar 2013 #33
Thanks Scuba. I have been avoiding registering with whitehouse.gov for years. but this was well wort robinlynne Mar 2013 #34
K & R nt abelenkpe Mar 2013 #35
K & R nt abelenkpe Mar 2013 #35
K&R ReRe Mar 2013 #37
I'm 199.. thanks Scuba! n/m Cha Mar 2013 #38
I'll get right on that. harmonicon Mar 2013 #39
The White House will respond to a petition on We the People if it reaches Fawke Em Mar 2013 #43
And then what? You'll be placated? harmonicon Mar 2013 #44
This is an online petition AT the White House's official website. Bolo Boffin Mar 2013 #48
HAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!!! (nt) harmonicon Mar 2013 #49
The point being, the White House is inviting this input. Bolo Boffin Mar 2013 #50
Enjoy your Death Star while you're at it! harmonicon Mar 2013 #51
The White House's response to the Death Star petition was one of the cleverest I've seen. Bolo Boffin Mar 2013 #52
You really want to get this worked up about this? harmonicon Mar 2013 #53
Any "worked up" you think you see in my response, you're projecting into it. Bolo Boffin Mar 2013 #54
You're welcome. harmonicon Mar 2013 #55
Oh, are you our ambassador from Reality Land? Bolo Boffin Mar 2013 #56
No, I'm not an ambassador. I just live here. (nt) harmonicon Mar 2013 #57
To be honest, you appear to be the only one getting worked up about this LanternWaste Mar 2013 #61
Nancy Pelosi's office is taking calls for the next 25 minutes, and if so many people... harmonicon Mar 2013 #62
Done. defacto7 Mar 2013 #40
Done. Phlem Mar 2013 #41
Why is this getting so few sigs? Fawke Em Mar 2013 #42
239 I think. K & R'd, too. Let's hope it does some good. Thanx! judesedit Mar 2013 #45
k&r Starry Messenger Mar 2013 #46
Done. And thanks! n/t Bolo Boffin Mar 2013 #47
# 266 chervilant Mar 2013 #58
Did it! GoneOffShore Mar 2013 #59
signed & rec. silvershadow Mar 2013 #60
is there any evidence that any of these petitions have actually resulted in ANYTHING? datasuspect Mar 2013 #63
Signed. snort Mar 2013 #64
Where are the sig's? Babel_17 Mar 2013 #65
Another kick,,,,, daleanime Mar 2013 #66

ashling

(25,771 posts)
3. I was signature #21
Mon Mar 18, 2013, 01:27 PM
Mar 2013

then sent it on to everyone (almost)


That one shaded in gray at the top of the names - that's me!


J. P.
Cleburne, TX
March 17, 2013
Signature # 21

including Rachel Maddow:
I don't sign a lot of petitions and when I do I don't usually send them to everybody I know, and almost never to people I don't "know", but would like to . . . but this is different. Could use your support on this.


The 5 Things to Know: Budget Proposals from Paul Ryan, the Senate, and Congressional Progressive Caucus
http://nationalpriorities.org/en/blog/2013/03/14/5-things-know-paul-ryan-budget-senate-budget-and-congressional-progressive-caucus/

1. The budgets differ about whether deficit reduction should be a central goal

For Rep. Ryan and the House, deficit reduction is a major goal, while the CPC made job creation the centerpiece – something reflected in its title, "Back to Work." Again, Senate Democrats did a little bit of both – some new spending on job creation and job training initiatives and some deficit reduction. But together these budgets indicate that there's no clear consensus that deficit reduction should be the central goal. Indeed, while 72 percent of Americans listed deficits as a top priority, some 95 percent said the same about restoring the job market

http://nationalpriorities.org/en/analysis/2013/budget-proposals-2014/
go to the above link for a side by side comparison



Lydia Leftcoast

(48,217 posts)
5. Number 76
Mon Mar 18, 2013, 01:32 PM
Mar 2013

Come on, people, this needs some support.

Even Krugman says that the Progressive Caucus budget makes more sense than any of the others.

AndyTiedye

(23,500 posts)
6. Looks Good, But How Would You Get Something Like This Through the House?
Mon Mar 18, 2013, 01:57 PM
Mar 2013

Not a single Rapeuglican would vote for it even if it ever made it to the floor, which it wouldn't.

1-Old-Man

(2,667 posts)
10. At the moment it will do for this to be the White House position
Mon Mar 18, 2013, 02:06 PM
Mar 2013

And of course its clear that it could not make it past Boner to get to the floor of the House of Representatives. Not that this will ever become the President's position, no matter how many Democrats vote in favor of it.

juajen

(8,515 posts)
14. Too complicated
Mon Mar 18, 2013, 02:30 PM
Mar 2013

While it asked for my email address to change my password, it then said that my email address was wrong.

Why is this so hard to do? I sign petitions all the time. This just irritates the bejesus out of me.

bvar22

(39,909 posts)
15. ALSO: Send Letters to the Editor, and Call In Talk Shows.
Mon Mar 18, 2013, 02:41 PM
Mar 2013

WHY isn't ANYBODY talking about the Progressive Caucus Budget?
The Progressive Caucus is the LARGEST CAUCUS in The House,
and ALL we hear about is The Tea Party Budget or the White House Budget.

Bill Maher featured this on his show on Friday.
He said that when polled on the Budget Items,
a wide MAJORITY or Americans AGREE with the Progressive Caucus Budget.

But NO Air Time by any Talking Heads or Political Celebrities.

Once Again, Americans are being forced into a False Dilemma:

[font size=3]AMERICA, You may pick one:
1)The Tea Bag Budget
OR

2)The White House Budget
[/font]

There ARE other options, and the Progressive Caucus Bidget is the BEST one for MOST Americans!!!
Somebody please send a copy to the White House!



You will know them by their WORKS,
not by their rhetoric, promises, or excuses.
[font size=5 color=green]Solidarity99![/font][font size=2 color=green]
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------[/center]

 

grahamhgreen

(15,741 posts)
16. This is a NO-BRAINER, and anyone who doesn't support it should just join the "Starve Granny" caucus!
Mon Mar 18, 2013, 02:49 PM
Mar 2013

Smilo

(1,944 posts)
17. Signed - K&R - also please consider signing too big to jail
Mon Mar 18, 2013, 02:57 PM
Mar 2013
https://petitions.whitehouse.gov/petition/end-too-big-jail-no-institution-above-justice-and-accountability/W43ShhqM

End too big to jail - No institution is above justice and accountability.
The country's financial institutions are out of control. As information continues to surface over the years, we discover ever more clearly that our financial institutions not only have no interest in serving We The People, but also are at times, simply criminal.

There can be no such thing as "too big to prosecute" in this country for justice to have any meaning at all. Mr. President, you can be impeached if you were to commit a crime - why are banks above the justice of the people? Your own US AG agrees: http://tinyurl.com/bgsvl9j

Money laundering for Colombian drug cartels, securities manipulations -- and their punishment is to pay a fine that equates to a fraction of the profits of their crimes? It's a joke.

The people demand more than empty deterrents. We demand real justice.

titanicdave

(429 posts)
19. Damn Straight
Mon Mar 18, 2013, 02:59 PM
Mar 2013

this needs serious considerations, especially since the majority of the American people support this budget

robinlynne

(15,481 posts)
34. Thanks Scuba. I have been avoiding registering with whitehouse.gov for years. but this was well wort
Mon Mar 18, 2013, 07:28 PM
Mar 2013

worth it!

harmonicon

(12,008 posts)
39. I'll get right on that.
Mon Mar 18, 2013, 09:40 PM
Mar 2013

If there's one thing that will sway executive decisions, it's an online petition.

harmonicon

(12,008 posts)
44. And then what? You'll be placated?
Tue Mar 19, 2013, 12:26 AM
Mar 2013

Death Star, dude. This is no different. This petition thing is a cute, sometimes neat public relations outreach thing, but it has zero impact on policy and never will.

Bolo Boffin

(23,796 posts)
48. This is an online petition AT the White House's official website.
Tue Mar 19, 2013, 01:16 AM
Mar 2013

Did you catch that part while you were readying your weapons of mass disdain for us to deal with?

Bolo Boffin

(23,796 posts)
50. The point being, the White House is inviting this input.
Tue Mar 19, 2013, 02:57 AM
Mar 2013

And people here, in starting a petition and getting people to sign it, are taking advantage of this to help increase public awareness of their close-felt issues. In this case, it's the Progressive Budget. And I for one would like to hear the White House comment on the Progressive Budget.

Thank you, however, for making me aware your contempt and disdain is something the rest of us should be proud to have leveled at us. It's just one more way we know we're on the right path. Goodbye!

Bolo Boffin

(23,796 posts)
52. The White House's response to the Death Star petition was one of the cleverest I've seen.
Tue Mar 19, 2013, 03:33 AM
Mar 2013

It took a silly petition idea and turned it into a great, fun response on our actual space program. It also promoted the petition page as some place Americans could talk to the White House about pretty much anything.

But, please, embarrass yourself some more with your shitty attitude.

harmonicon

(12,008 posts)
53. You really want to get this worked up about this?
Tue Mar 19, 2013, 04:01 AM
Mar 2013

Do you not know that you'll be disappointed? Do you actually think an online petition is going to influence policy?! IT WON'T. That WILL NOT HAPPEN, regardless of any response.

Bolo Boffin

(23,796 posts)
54. Any "worked up" you think you see in my response, you're projecting into it.
Tue Mar 19, 2013, 04:13 AM
Mar 2013

Thank you for your concern over how I and the others in this thread spend our time and speak with our White House. Goodbye!

Bolo Boffin

(23,796 posts)
56. Oh, are you our ambassador from Reality Land?
Tue Mar 19, 2013, 04:17 AM
Mar 2013

Your diplomatic skills need some work. I'll let you have the last word since you seem to need it.

 

LanternWaste

(37,748 posts)
61. To be honest, you appear to be the only one getting worked up about this
Tue Mar 19, 2013, 12:37 PM
Mar 2013

To be perfectly honest, you appear to be the only one getting worked up about this. No one else is emphatically digging in their heels, accepting no other resolution other than the one they imagine.

There are, as once written, more things on heaven and earth than your philosophies...

harmonicon

(12,008 posts)
62. Nancy Pelosi's office is taking calls for the next 25 minutes, and if so many people...
Tue Mar 19, 2013, 12:46 PM
Mar 2013

blah blah blah.

I am worked up. Apart from voting, I think there's very little that the ordinary citizen can do to influence the political process, and most of those things involve how we simply live our day-to-day lives and interact with one another on a personal level. I see things like the White House petitions as nothing more than entertainment, but it's not just entertainment when people take it this seriously. When people take it seriously, it becomes another subversion of our energies from where they could have a real impact.

I think working against subversive political/PR tactics is one of the good things that can be done which could have a real impact. No online petition will ever have an impact, but letting politicians know that we see through their bullshit by refusing to participate in the charade may have an impact, or at the least force them to come up with new ways to placate the unsettled masses.

 

datasuspect

(26,591 posts)
63. is there any evidence that any of these petitions have actually resulted in ANYTHING?
Tue Mar 19, 2013, 12:48 PM
Mar 2013

just curious.

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