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Police say two 16-year-old girls are charged with threatening the girl. They say one of the suspected girls was arrested and the other turned herself in.
Police say one of the girls tweeted a threat to the victim, and they later learned of another threat from a second teen.
In a tweet to the victim, Police say one of the teens wrote, you ripped my family apart, you made my cousin cry , so when I see you xxxxx, its gone be a homicide.
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http://pittsburgh.cbslocal.com/2013/03/18/police-probe-death-threats-against-steubenville-rape-victim/
Jesus... no wonder so many girls and women are reluctant to report sexual assaults.
And now the whole world knows her name...
niyad
(113,074 posts)destroyed. candy crowley offered her deepest sympathies for those convicted thugs and how their lives are ruined. never uttered a word about the rape survivor.
niyad
(113,074 posts)have to pay for security for their victim and her family.
bettyellen
(47,209 posts)seabeyond
(110,159 posts)bettyellen
(47,209 posts)*crosses fingers*
seabeyond
(110,159 posts)oh lets hope.
bettyellen
(47,209 posts)sexually abused women.
go find my thread and kick it when it gets low.
I still want to help her pay for college. somehow.
bighart
(1,565 posts)I would be willing to bet a good many of us would contribute to assist this young lady.
bettyellen
(47,209 posts)this kid deserves a big reward for her courage. I can't imagine what it must be like for her to live there knowing some random peers might want to hurt her at any time.
This shld be looked into. PM me if you have a chance, or i'lll PM you after I get through the next two days of work. If that's okay?
bighart
(1,565 posts)bettyellen
(47,209 posts)They're very grateful, but would prefer we support on of two nearby crises center programs for abused women.
So I posted about it here:
http://www.democraticunderground.com/10022536967
bighart
(1,565 posts)get the red out
(13,460 posts)She needs to get far away and not look back. That community seems set on abusing her as much as possible and it might become physically dangerous on top of psychologically damaging.
CaliforniaPeggy
(149,525 posts)The girls making the death threats need to be stopped or punished, or something.
Dorian Gray
(13,479 posts)and punished for "terrorizing." My husband was arrested and charged with that for making prank phone calls in college. He had his charges reduced (they were prank calls), but this is serious. That poor girl's life has been altered forever.
freshwest
(53,661 posts)Dorian Gray
(13,479 posts)The media sympathy for the boys. And the entire culture that supported them while villifying the young girl who they attacked. It's reprehensible.
polly7
(20,582 posts)I could NOT believe how the judge treated them after his sentencing. He might as well have gotten off the bench and given them both a comforting hug.
freshwest
(53,661 posts)Did they detail any of the texts, video, pictures on television or the horrendous details, accusations or any of that? The threats by the coach made against the reporter locally?
After all, they make a mint of money off salacious stories and spreading dirt. But here they ONLY have interest in those poor innocent lambs who are being sent to Juvenile for only a year or two. In many other cases, felons of their age would be sent to adult prison, with no consideration or protection. I wonder how hight the dirt from Stuebenville goes in the owners of major networks.
Although I get all my news here instead of being polluted by CNN, MSNBC, FOX and the rest, I haven't seen any network stories about how the Koch brother held an employee in Colorado at his home. It was essentially kidnapping. And that was reported here. I think there's more to this Stuebenville mafia than is getting out.
seabeyond
(110,159 posts)Kingofalldems
(38,424 posts)I resent that statement.
seabeyond
(110,159 posts)part of the much more important collective healing that is so needed to right the wrongs.
Kingofalldems
(38,424 posts)Just responded to your disgusting post.
Little Star
(17,055 posts)Kingofalldems
(38,424 posts)Little Star
(17,055 posts)Her post was speaking of some anonymous people in general.
Kingofalldems
(38,424 posts)gollygee
(22,336 posts)Our society. This isn't hard to understand.
Kingofalldems
(38,424 posts)Too bad you don't like my opinion. And oh, I get it. You are questioning my intelligence.
Little Star
(17,055 posts)Kingofalldems
(38,424 posts)Scootaloo
(25,699 posts)Rugged individualist, totally independent, an island unto yourself?
Kingofalldems
(38,424 posts)freshwest
(53,661 posts)seabeyond
(110,159 posts)part that creates exactly this. death threats to the victim.
we can do it
(12,173 posts)onpatrol98
(1,989 posts)I was reading a couple of days ago where her friends had "unfriended" her, because of the accusation...even after seeing the text messages and hearing the bragging, they unfriended her, not the guys.
Gravitycollapse
(8,155 posts)Because in our assbackwards world, seeking justice for a crime committed against you makes you a target for more hatred.
Whisp
(24,096 posts)It is Shameful. And this is the product of looking at women and girls as sex objects first than humans. Holes to diddle in and look upon with scorn. Why do these men hate women so much? It's hate hate hate, in so many ways.
This is a horrible horrible case, but there are many others just like this that haven't been recorded and gone nation wide. This is SHAMEFUL.
and the way CNN handled the coverage just makes me want to VOMIT down their ugly and ignorant throats.
Shivering Jemmy
(900 posts)It is difficult to comprehend that women would turn on another female victim.
Response to Shivering Jemmy (Reply #12)
Whisp This message was self-deleted by its author.
seabeyond
(110,159 posts)Shivering Jemmy
(900 posts)Limitations. So I'm told. But it looks like hate to me.
You judged my motives pretty quickly. I never get anyone's motives at all but I'm always amazed at how so-called normals say they can do it. Though they really can't.
I do not think we will talk again.
Whisp
(24,096 posts)Did I say something offensive to you? I apologize. Ill leave you be now though.
Whisp
(24,096 posts)but it's become pretty normal that when horrific things like this rape happen, implicating fault with others rather than the rapists is common.
Shivering Jemmy
(900 posts)It is not a big deal. I should write more clearly...in terrible at speaking out loud you would think I'd be more clear with writing.
But I still want to understand the reward structure here. Do you think these girls know deep down that they could as easily have been a victim? That's what I do not get. When I was 5, I couldn't really talk and wasnt able to tell anyone that I was being molested. But it did teach me that no one is safe from rape. Is that what it takes for people to generalize?
Whisp
(24,096 posts)and not speaking out for themselves but for others.
Sorry about your struggles, Jemmy.
Shivering Jemmy
(900 posts)Things happen. Some have been really good. Some not so much. The past is a million miles away anyway.
On topic: I've been assured that most in Steubenville are aghast at this crime. Could be we are seeing outliers. For the species sake I hope so.
Response to Whisp (Reply #15)
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seabeyond
(110,159 posts)both genders suffer because of it.
get the red out
(13,460 posts)The high school football program is the most important thing in that community for both kids and adults. To defend that is to defend the "pride" you have been taught to have; to defend it can ingratiate you with the power at the top of the community food chain. To criticize is most likely a quick trip to the land of the social outcast. I am sure the girls who attacked the victim were defending the power structure, "pride", of the community as they know it. They aren't thinking, they are defending the status quo because they have no idea what happens without it.
I am reminded in this story how many adults live for and through high school sports in communities all over the country. No wonder so many kids learned nothing but support the team.
I am certain there are MANY people, most, in the community who are outraged by the rape and subsequent actions to cover it up and silence the victim; but they are not the ones in power, the people closely associated with the "team". They are the parents of kids deemed much lower in status, and the kids who are much lower in status. It would be like the serfs taking down the landowners.
Gravitycollapse
(8,155 posts)Women are brainwashed into believing the sexist, woman-hating rhetoric. So they turn their hatred back on themselves.
redqueen
(115,103 posts)Join the 'in-crowd' and feel like life is mostly fair and you're part of a team, or open your eyes to the widespread and insidious and constant examples of misogyny... and realize how many of your friends and loved ones embrace and participate in that hatred?
It's a choice many make unconsciously, many times over.
It's been said feminists need a 'soft landing space' for people who have decided to open their eyes. It can be a hard thing to deal with.
Sargasso Sea
(16 posts)liberal_at_heart
(12,081 posts)If it were my daughter we would be moving, she would be in counseling, and probably home schooled too. She must be protected and given a chance to begin the life long road to healing. And anyone guilty of any crime associated with this case should be prosecuted. I was glad to hear that they are looking into investigating more people for not stopping or reporting the crime.
Recursion
(56,582 posts)That one always puzzled me.
slackmaster
(60,567 posts)davidn3600
(6,342 posts)On that page the OP posted and others like on Yahoo. Many coming from women saying the "girl wasnt raped," "she was lying," "the girl got drunk, it's her fault," etc, etc, etc...
There are women out there that don't like women.
freshwest
(53,661 posts)we can do it
(12,173 posts)seabeyond
(110,159 posts)there is a reward.
LadyHawkAZ
(6,199 posts)Young girls are still taught that their main goal in life is to compete to catch and keep men, and that their greatest weapon is virgin purity (or at least the appearance of it). Impure girls are scorned as sluts. In that mold, the victim is now an impure girl, and has also taken two promising catches off the playing field by sending them to jail, which equals more scorn. It's the same pathetic setup that Amanda Todd got caught up in. Sick, sad and wrong on all levels.
davidn3600
(6,342 posts)geek tragedy
(68,868 posts)Heard a young woman yesterday saying the most disgusting things about this case yesterday, about how the victim 'cried rape' and how it was her fault because she knew she was going to a party where alcohol would be served.
Lots of women also thought Rihanna deserved her beating from Chris Brown, that only golddiggers seek child support, etc.
YoungDemCA
(5,714 posts)Far as I can tell, men have defined the roles for both, but both men and women act them out.
Recursion
(56,582 posts)YoungDemCA
(5,714 posts)They're the social elite, and I mean that in all aspects of that phrase-economic, media, cultural, political, government, military, business, religious....the makers, enforcers, and adjudicators of social norms and conventions, through the socialization process, especially at home (families-"Father Knows Best" , in the classroom or out in the social lives of kids, adolescents, and young adults, and in the broader culture, media, and political discourse.
It should be obvious from this description that the social elite have pervasive influence throughout America's society. Some may just call it "culture", but every culture is created in the image of some sort of ruling social elite.
nadinbrzezinski
(154,021 posts)I wish I could say I was surprised.
It is also partly the small town football culture that places it above all.
Warren DeMontague
(80,708 posts)Hmmm. I wonder if he's gonna put his powerful sleuthin' hat on to find these death threats assholes.
I won't hold my breath.
Solly Mack
(90,758 posts)Little Star
(17,055 posts)Canuckistanian
(42,290 posts)Standards of decent civil behaviour seem to be totally out of whack. Is anyone there decrying this madness?
freshwest
(53,661 posts)Judge to rule Sunday morning
March 16, 2013 11:30 PM
http://pittsburgh.cbslocal.com/2013/03/16/defense-questions-2-former-friends-of-victim-in-steubenville-rape-case/
While the trial was taking place. Wonder if they've changed in follow-up stories. Because the evidence was heard before that, videos, etc. before Saturday.
Perhaps, they don't want to be sued, but really. They knew she was raped from the overwhelming electronic evidence, but the trial wasn't over.
Even if the two little media darlings got off, she was raped.
seabeyond
(110,159 posts)· 51% of the boys and 41% of the girls said forced sex was acceptable if the boy, "spent a lot of money" on the girl;
· 31% of the boys and 32% of the girls said it was acceptable for a man to rape a woman with past sexual experience;
· 87% of boys and 79% of girls said sexual assault was acceptable if the man and the woman were married;
· 65% of the boys and 47% of the girls said it was acceptable for a boy to rape a girl if they had been dating for more than six months.
· 35% anonymously admitted that, under certain circumstances, they would commit rape if they believed they could get away with it (ref 6,7).
· One in 12 admitted to committing acts that met the legal definitions of rape, and 84% of men who committed rape did not label it as rape.(ref 6,7)
· 43% of college-aged men admitted to using coercive behavior to have sex, including ignoring a woman's protest, using physical aggression, and forcing intercourse.
· 15% acknowledged they had committed acquaintance rape; 11% acknowledged using physical restraints to force a woman to have sex.
http://www.uic.edu/depts/owa/sa_rape_support.html
duffyduff
(3,251 posts)on the subject, but somehow I doubt it.
seabeyond
(110,159 posts)it had about rhianna being abused and if she deserved it. i can hunt it using her name. i forgot about that. but, it was much more thorough in showing the big picture. i couldnt find it. and no, not better, if anything, worse.
gonna hunt a bit more.
Sissyk
(12,665 posts)She is being assaulted again. Over and over by girls and other boys.
I hope she and her family can move somewhere far away from this or she will never be able to heal.
I also hope the girls that are threatening her are prosecuted.
Texasgal
(17,039 posts)That get pissy when we ( generic WE ) discuss rape culture and apologists.
UGH.
There is a reason why!
In_The_Wind
(72,300 posts)Court supervision and social services should intercede to protect the rape victim..
Nuclear Unicorn
(19,497 posts)Their family obviously didn't teach their offspring any better and the family itself shows no remorse. Maybe they ought to be torn apart; it's just a damned shame another human being had to be destroyed for the obvious to be made manifest.
arely staircase
(12,482 posts)eom
REP
(21,691 posts)I like my mis-reading a lot better.
I know it's meaningless symbolism, but I don't know her name, but I do know the rapists' names.
Apophis
(1,407 posts)It's not the victim's fault she was raped. Gah. The guys who committed the crime ripped their own families apart by committing the crime.
gollygee
(22,336 posts)This has been one horrible moment after another for her. People have to be held responsible for what they do, so others don't think they can get away with whatever they want.
NaturalHigh
(12,778 posts)If the locals won't do it, the state attorney general should.
LiberalFighter
(50,787 posts)riderinthestorm
(23,272 posts)Source: WKYC-TV
STEUBENVILLE -- Ohio Attorney General Mike DeWine tells WKYC's Tom Beres two girls have been arrested for making threats social media threats against the victim in the recent emotional rape trial here.
"Let me be clear. Threatening a teenage rape victim will not be tolerated. If anyone makes a threat verbally or via the internet, we will take it seriously, we will find you, and we will arrest you," said DeWine.
Detectives with the Jefferson County Sheriff's Office alerted the Attorney General's Bureau of Criminal Investigation to the online threats soon after Sunday's sentencing hearing concluded.
The Steubenville girls, 15 and 16, were both taken to the Jefferson County Juvenile Detention Center upon arrest.
Read more: http://www.wkyc.com/news/state/article/290053/23/Steubenville-2-arrested-for-threatening-rape-victim-on-social-media
seabeyond
(110,159 posts)i could not get the line in the title. but, i want all to see. this is the talk. this is what the nation needs to repeatedly see and hear. no qualifications. but this