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Emit

(11,213 posts)
Tue Mar 19, 2013, 12:04 PM Mar 2013

If you don’t want to be labeled as a rapist, don’t fucking rape.

— Anonymous comment left on the CNN petition demanding they apologize for sympathizing with the Steubenville rapists:


Jane Doe BURBANK, CA · 1 day ago · Liked

“I was raped by four men in one evening. I got drunk and tried to say no. What did my predators do? They told me to drink more. They shoved a bottle in my face and told me to keep drinking. Drink till I was drunk enough to fuck them. I blacked out. They urinated on me. They assaulted me. They shoved foreign objects in my body, anally and vaginally. They took videos. I was just 16 years old. The video was sent around my entire school, and I was bullied every single day of my senior year of high school. I lost all of my friends. I was physically and verbally abused by peers and people I once called friends. Someone tried to set me on fire in the hallway during passing period. Nobody sympathized with me. Nobody cared about the fact that because of these events, I was trying to kill myself every single day. I was cutting myself, making myself puke, showering upwards of fifteen times a day because I felt filthy. I was scratching and peeling the skin off of my body because I was dirty. I looked at myself like I deserved what I got. The world saw me as dirty, so I began to see myself that way, too. My rapists were praised by my peers for their deed. I never had a voice. When I first learned about the Steubenville incident going to trial, I was overjoyed. Because Jane Doe’s story was my story, and if anyone deserved justice, it was her. She would get the justice I never got. She would change the tide of the rape culture movement. Despite the horrific events that occurred, I knew that the justice served would help ease her pain. But she didn’t get justice, and now she has to witness this news coverage, favoring and sympathizing with her attackers. Pain is not an accurate word to describe what she is feeling right now. Pain is the simplest term you could use. As a rape victim and an aspiring journalist, I am disgusted with the way this case was reported on. Jane Doe’s rapists deserve their suffering in prison. They deserve more. They do not deserve to be sympathized with. They made their stupid decision, and they deserve whatever consequences come their way. If you don’t want to be labeled as a rapist, don’t fucking rape.”


Link to petition:

http://www.change.org/petitions/cnn-apologize-on-air-for-sympathizing-with-the-steubenville-rapists

I'm sorry if this has been posted already.

I am speechless. I am pissed. The sympathizing for these rapists is sickening to me.
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If you don’t want to be labeled as a rapist, don’t fucking rape. (Original Post) Emit Mar 2013 OP
and if you do not want to be labeled a rape apologist, do not apolize to and for the rapist. seabeyond Mar 2013 #1
exactly niyad Mar 2013 #11
Well said Demo_Chris Mar 2013 #18
k&r Little Star Mar 2013 #2
There will be a non-apology - you know the kind: CrispyQ Mar 2013 #3
or, "I am so sorry that I was such a clueless jerk that I actually sympathized with heinous niyad Mar 2013 #13
You know it's pervasive when women are guilty of this too. CrispyQ Mar 2013 #14
the patriarchy has done a wonderful job of teaching women to hate themselves and to see other niyad Mar 2013 #16
K&R myrna minx Mar 2013 #4
K&R for Jane Doe and all who are dehumanized. There is never any justice or peace for rape victims. freshwest Mar 2013 #5
K&R ismnotwasm Mar 2013 #6
Wow, just wow. demmiblue Mar 2013 #7
these are rapes of annihilation roguevalley Mar 2013 #8
The Steubenville rape victim's life was threatened via Twitter & Facebook . . . Petrushka Mar 2013 #9
Update ---> Petrushka Mar 2013 #22
Unfortunately, that's nowhere near necessary, and not quite sufficient either. Donald Ian Rankin Mar 2013 #10
and, right on schedule--we hear about the small number falsely accused (and funny, nobody ever niyad Mar 2013 #12
K&R stevenleser Mar 2013 #15
Angry sad rec. progressoid Mar 2013 #17
I wish I could say I was the least bit surprised by the fawning over rapists. redqueen Mar 2013 #19
K&R kdmorris Mar 2013 #20
signed bench scientist Mar 2013 #21
 

seabeyond

(110,159 posts)
1. and if you do not want to be labeled a rape apologist, do not apolize to and for the rapist.
Tue Mar 19, 2013, 12:08 PM
Mar 2013

this is basically what i said to cnn. it is not only the victim here, but all victims of rape they need to apologize to. and not only for sympathizing with these rapist, but creating and enforcing the rape culture.

CrispyQ

(36,460 posts)
3. There will be a non-apology - you know the kind:
Tue Mar 19, 2013, 12:39 PM
Mar 2013

I'm sorry if anyone was offended by what I said.

NOT,

I'm sorry for what I said.




niyad

(113,275 posts)
13. or, "I am so sorry that I was such a clueless jerk that I actually sympathized with heinous
Tue Mar 19, 2013, 05:19 PM
Mar 2013

criminals rather than their victims. I am sorry that I believe the societal norm that says that athletes are somehow special and above the law, and more important than their victims. I am sorry that I am parroting the memes of this sexist, screwed-up, woman-hating society, when I should be speaking truth."

CrispyQ

(36,460 posts)
14. You know it's pervasive when women are guilty of this too.
Tue Mar 19, 2013, 05:37 PM
Mar 2013

Last summer a friend was outraged at the statements the repub men were making. "They're not taking away my birth control, or my daughters!" Two months later she liked Romney & Ryan.

niyad

(113,275 posts)
16. the patriarchy has done a wonderful job of teaching women to hate themselves and to see other
Tue Mar 19, 2013, 05:44 PM
Mar 2013

women as competition and threats.

freshwest

(53,661 posts)
5. K&R for Jane Doe and all who are dehumanized. There is never any justice or peace for rape victims.
Tue Mar 19, 2013, 12:55 PM
Mar 2013

Donald Ian Rankin

(13,598 posts)
10. Unfortunately, that's nowhere near necessary, and not quite sufficient either.
Tue Mar 19, 2013, 03:15 PM
Mar 2013

There's strong evidence that not merely some but the majority of rapists are never identified.

Some people are wrongly identified as rapists (e.g .the Duke Lacrosse team).

So while not raping people is a good start when it comes to not being accused of being a rapist, it's not actually either a necessary or a sufficient condition.

niyad

(113,275 posts)
12. and, right on schedule--we hear about the small number falsely accused (and funny, nobody ever
Tue Mar 19, 2013, 05:16 PM
Mar 2013

questions whether the victim is just bullied into recanting, or the police just decide she is lying)

redqueen

(115,103 posts)
19. I wish I could say I was the least bit surprised by the fawning over rapists.
Tue Mar 19, 2013, 06:09 PM
Mar 2013


When it comes to men or boys whom most consider to be 'good guys who would never do that', it would take a mountain of evidence to turn the tide. Women must be blamed, because "good guys" don't rape, right?

kdmorris

(5,649 posts)
20. K&R
Tue Mar 19, 2013, 06:37 PM
Mar 2013

No one should ever be victimized a second time after being raped. I think about the girl in Steubenville often and think "yeah, she's never going to have a life". These rapists get our of jail and they can go on to play the football that everyone so loves, but the girl will be in prison for the rest of her time in Steubenville. Her life there is literally ruined for something she didn't even do.

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