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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsDUers, would you use a dedicated area for GOOD NEWS? (w/edit)
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I posed this question in the AtA forum, and Skinner said that if enough people want it, he has no problem creating a new sub-forum.
I know the resistance to creating new forums is that people fear those posts will be relegated to a shadow area and never make it to GD, but I disagree. I love having a go-to place for various specific topics, and STILL BEING ABLE TO POST (or cross post) in GD and other areas when applicable.
I don't see it as one or the other when new forums are created. It provides a way to have more dedicated discussion and attention to a certain subject, but it doesn't mean it can't still be shared in GD. In such a busy forum as GD, too many awesome posts are missed. It's the nature of having a busy community
DU's two main forums are reliably full of posts which keep us informed about the many injustices in the world and issues which require our attention, and we desperately need that!!!
In order to maintain my own sanity, I curate good news every day (as do some other DUers), but we don't want to bombard GD with posts.
Yet it occurred to me that having a sub-forum dedicated to positive, inspiring stories (again, knowing they could be cross-posted when applicable to balance things in GD) would be appreciated by members who get worn down by all the negativity. Apolitical news; overt political good news would be posted in GD/Politics.
As I said, I curate such info daily and post elsewhere, so I could post it daily here at DU in such a forum as well. And others could do the same. Maybe people could even share good news they just experienced or witnessed, not only share existing stories we stumble upon.
Perhaps I could also post more regular Wishadoo/Help a DUer updates in such a sub-forum, so DUers can see how we are DOING GOOD and how we can do even more in different ways. I definitely don't want to bombard the bigger forums with this, but I also know many of you want a more reliable way to stay informed about Wishadoo/DUer things.
Would this interest you? If so, please K&R so we can see the level of interest.
Thanks!!!
malaise
(268,709 posts)but I have no problem with a Good News forum
OneGrassRoot
(22,920 posts)Thanks. Just replying to give you a
malaise
(268,709 posts)You're a good human being
MineralMan
(146,258 posts)Good news is always welcome in GD. I can't see that another place on DU is necessary. In fact, I'd love to see more good news posted in GD.
OneGrassRoot
(22,920 posts)for many awesome OPs (good news and otherwise) to be seen and gain traction in such a busy forum as GD.
It's the nature of having a big community. No one's fault.
Plus, many of us don't like to essentially spam one forum with posts we personally like. If I posted the many good news-type stories I would like to in GD every day, I would be accused of just that: spamming.
Hence my suggestion for a sub-forum.
MineralMan
(146,258 posts)actually go to an additional forum on DU. Most DUers have their list of forums they visit. GD is kind of home for everyone.
I suspect your good news will get more readers if posted in GD than in a forum just for good news. Look at the view count for some of your posts. That's the key thing.
OneGrassRoot
(22,920 posts)And we're all very different, with different personalities.
I love GD, the main gathering place, but I often want to slink into a room to get away from the bickering and negativity (even though both are often very necessary), and gather with the others who want to escape the same thing and focus on one particular topic. In this case, good.
There may not be others who feel as I do. I just get so frustrated when wonderful, inspiring OPs go unnoticed, especially in the midst of the latest brouhaha in GD, with a frenzy of posts about the same thing. Ya know?
Anyway, we'll see. Thanks, MineralMan.
renate
(13,776 posts)For some reason it's oddly fascinating to read about the infuriating things in the news, or to get all worked up about the angry debates that sometimes happen in GD, but I don't ever feel better about life or the world afterwards. I think it'd be great to have an only-positive place on DU, as sort of a palate cleanser... I wouldn't want to ignore bad news because it's a bummer, or pretend the world is all sunshine and lollipops because that's the way I want it to be, but the world isn't all bad, either, and it's easy to forget that sometimes.
Great idea!
OneGrassRoot
(22,920 posts)That's my buzz word of the day, evidently.
We need balance, and I hope this could provide such balance here at DU.
Thanks, renate!
RKP5637
(67,087 posts)not be seen. Human nature, for the most part, seems to be ... to be attracted to bad news. So, mixing in some good with the bad, to me at least, sheds some light on the good news!
OneGrassRoot
(22,920 posts)RKP5637
(67,087 posts)The Straight Story
(48,121 posts)Stories that may be of interest often spool off the main page of GD whereas in a group they stay more readily accessible since the traffic is less (which means one has to check it less frequently).
Since one would know the group type and that it was an aggregate of such stories it would aid in spending less time searching for such stories when needed (and one could repost some in GD). Like election area here, I see some off and on in GD but when I want to look more in depth I know I can go there and that it basically all that is posted there.
Personally, in the long run, it would be nice if we could tag our OP's with up to four descriptors and we could sort by such. They could show up in the group without actually being in a group.
Until we get such breaking out things (like on reddit) is one way to help in looking for such specific things.
OneGrassRoot
(22,920 posts)I was just going to contact you, as you're the Main Curator for Good in GD.
THANK YOU FOR EXPLAINING THE REASON WE NEED A SEPARATE AREA SO WELL!!!
NRaleighLiberal
(60,006 posts)I assume the realm of good news could range from the macro - world wise, country, newsworthy - to the micro - personal, family, things observed....
Yes, I am an optimist! (which always reminds me of when I had to take some sort of IQ test early on - 6th or 7th grade - when they start to split classes into groupings based on ability. This psych asked me what an optimist is, and what a pessimist is. I told him an eye doctor, and a foot doctor.....somehow they allowed me to stay in school!)
OneGrassRoot
(22,920 posts)Micro, macro, and all GOOD in between, with the one exception being political good news. That gets good traction in GD and Politics already.
OMG about the eye doctor/foot doctor story...
woodsprite
(11,905 posts)OneGrassRoot
(22,920 posts)a2liberal
(1,524 posts)only caveat being that I would want to see it primarily geared towards "real world" good news (person helps out person, etc.) not political good news (bill that dems like passes)
OneGrassRoot
(22,920 posts)My first thought is that that is the one exception: political good news. That gets plenty of traction in GD and Politics 2013, as well it should, of course!
This new sub-forum would be for all other types of good news. There's no reason we can't t be cross post on a regular basis, not only with GD but other areas of DU (like the environmental sub-forums in the case of good news re: the environment).
Especially in the case of good news, we need to spread the love far and wide!
Thanks.
arikara
(5,562 posts)stuff gets buried in GD. Some days I go looking for good news and it can be hard to find.
OneGrassRoot
(22,920 posts)Posteritatis
(18,807 posts)OneGrassRoot
(22,920 posts)Yeah, we'd need fairly clear forum guidelines, I suppose, to keep that to a minimum. If something is posted that seems like good news but can be seen from another perspective, one which isn't so positive, that's a good discussion, imho. Piling on good news because someone hates good news is another story (and, let's face it; online forums are full of people whose sole intention is to crap on anything positive...).
But things do tend to be beaten to death in communities like DU, so it could go off track fairly easily if basic guidelines for the sub-forum aren't established. I agree.
freemay20
(243 posts)OneGrassRoot
(22,920 posts)UnrepentantLiberal
(11,700 posts)I think it would be a popular forum.
OneGrassRoot
(22,920 posts)bloomington-lib
(946 posts)OneGrassRoot
(22,920 posts)Howler
(4,225 posts)K&R
Le Taz Hot
(22,271 posts)OneGrassRoot
(22,920 posts)davsand
(13,421 posts)I love seeing good news stuff on DU, but it seems like a lot of times it gets pushed off the front pages by all the other stuff. I can hear some people arguing that it could go into the Lounge, but even there it never seems to stay on the first page for too long without a concentrated effort to keep it kicked.
I'd like to see a place here dedicated to the good news.
Laura
mainstreetonce
(4,178 posts)Thumbs up
OneGrassRoot
(22,920 posts)Tumbulu
(6,268 posts)Good idea and I would welcome it.
Thank you for bringing it up! And for the good news you help spread every day with Wishadoo!
OneGrassRoot
(22,920 posts)Thanks for being so supportive.
lins the liberal
(169 posts)Personally, while I still come to DU each day, over the years I've been spending less and less time here, because many days it is just a downer I don't need to read so much bad news.
OneGrassRoot
(22,920 posts)We want to stay informed and aware of what's going on in the world (and I tend to zero in on how to take positive action, not just complain about the injustices and such), but it's easy to get flat-out depressed as a result of doing so.
That's why I immerse myself in finding good news. Balance.
glinda
(14,807 posts)BillyJack
(819 posts)OneGrassRoot
(22,920 posts)nolabear
(41,933 posts)I'm sometimes shocked at how that happens. I do like good news in GD, though, when it can sneak in without being beaten to death by an angry mob.
OneGrassRoot
(22,920 posts)I hear you, nolabear, I hear you.
Maybe the Good News posts can stay in GD longer after being "filtered" via this new forum.
NYC_SKP
(68,644 posts)You are amazing, OneGrassRoot.
So simple, but so brilliant, this idea.
Thanks!
OneGrassRoot
(22,920 posts)aw shucks...thanks, NYC_SKP!
Glad you think it's a good idea.
lunatica
(53,410 posts)I'd love to post good news and have conversations about the future that are hopeful and positive!
OneGrassRoot
(22,920 posts)marions ghost
(19,841 posts)I'm not sure I would recognize good news of a political nature. Has there been any lately?
Maybe you could give us an example?
OneGrassRoot
(22,920 posts)Any political good news would go in GD/Politics 2013.
This would be human interest stories and such that inspire and show there IS some good in the world.
marions ghost
(19,841 posts)--I didn't know GD politics was for political good news? I never go there. I thought it was for discussion of Dem candidates.
OneGrassRoot
(22,920 posts)I just mean that's where any good news that develops of a political nature is posted.
You're right though: it's few and far between.
Yes, we would need to make the guidelines clear. Hopefully others would help me with that.
marions ghost
(19,841 posts)marions ghost
(19,841 posts)whistler162
(11,155 posts)live with it! So no more place for good news.
OneGrassRoot
(22,920 posts)but thanks for replying anyway.
From The Ashes
(2,628 posts)...so often I miss good news because my time to spend here is limited. Count me in!!
OneGrassRoot
(22,920 posts)Hopefully it will be approved. *fingers crossed*
Thanks, From The Ashes.
ChazII
(6,202 posts)but, yes!! It would wonderful to have a place for inspiring and good news. I especially like your idea of "sharing good news we experienced or witnessed." Keeping my fingers crossed that it gets approval. Thank you.
OneGrassRoot
(22,920 posts)Thanks, ChazII!
ChazII
(6,202 posts)Habibi
(3,598 posts)I would subscribe to such a group, indeedy!
OneGrassRoot
(22,920 posts)WillyT
(72,631 posts)hvn_nbr_2
(6,485 posts)I like the idea of a "go-to place".
OneGrassRoot
(22,920 posts)Glad you agree.
liberal_at_heart
(12,081 posts)OneGrassRoot
(22,920 posts)sibelian
(7,804 posts)OneGrassRoot
(22,920 posts)dmr
(28,344 posts)Count me in!
OneGrassRoot
(22,920 posts)SunSeeker
(51,513 posts)I really need a place to go to restore my faith in humanity on a daily basis.
OneGrassRoot
(22,920 posts)I hear you.
Duer 157099
(17,742 posts)I usually retreat to The Lounge when too much bad news in LBN or GD finally get the better of me.
It would be fantastic to have a dedicated forum for GOOD NEWS.
OneGrassRoot
(22,920 posts)"Not just yes but HELL YES"
Cha
(296,848 posts)I like to be the glass is half full kinda girl so this sounds Good to me.
OneGrassRoot
(22,920 posts)It saves my sanity to find and create as much good as I can. I'd lose my mind if I didn't find a way to balance the daily intake of misery all around, and maintain hope.
idwiyo
(5,113 posts)OneGrassRoot
(22,920 posts)RKP5637
(67,087 posts)would be a nice place to go especially when feeling low.
OneGrassRoot
(22,920 posts)madrchsod
(58,162 posts)Sienna86
(2,148 posts)Can't think of a better way to brighten my day. Great idea.
csziggy
(34,131 posts)In addition to their regular news section. It's nice to have a place to go as a relief from the relentless stream of bad and controversial news that is usually at the top of the headlines.
They also have a "Weird News" section for those really strange stories and a "Celebrity News" one for stuff that is not really news worthy but has to do with famous people.
I'm not advocating adding all those sections, but at least one online forum has found a place for them - and gets enough traffic in each of those sections to keep them alive.
Lady Freedom Returns
(14,120 posts)There are times where even the Lounge get a little mean. It would be nice to have a group where one can read about the good without having to drudge through the other stuff.
Lets face it, there are days when one just need to stop and see the roses that are out there without the mass of thorns.
OneGrassRoot
(22,920 posts)Man oh man, do I hear you.
Zorra
(27,670 posts)banchie
(5 posts)Hi! I don't have enough posts to start a thread, yet I have a story as Hot as Domino's or Chick-a-fil. The rule prevents DUers from learning of it. I suggest a newbie category that flips over once a week to start fresh again, so DUers can see new posters, or ideas new posters have to share.
This is probably wrong to post it, but I feel members should see and take the opportunity to protest this farmer who is protesting Obama with giant signs from his property. PLEASE post it!!
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Farmer under attack for signs on semi trailers criticizing Obama
Farmer, township at odds over M-6 signs
Signs on semi trailers criticize Obama, socialism
Updated: Friday, 22 Mar 2013, 6:15 AM EDT
Published : Thursday, 21 Mar 2013, 8:58 PM EDT
By Henry Erb
GAINES TOWNSHIP, Mich. (WOOD) - A cattle farmer is fighting a Gaines Township zoning ordinance to keep a couple of trailer-sized political signs on his property.
A crowd is expected in 63rd District Court Friday as Vern Verduin takes on Township officials who are trying to force him to remove his signs.
The signs, which are visible from M-6, are posted on two semi-truck trailers parked in Verduin's pasture.
One reads "Marxism/Socialism = Poverty & hunger." The other reads "Obama's 'mission accomplished.' 8% unemployment. 16 trillion debt."
(More & video) http://www.woodtv.com/dpp/news/local/kent_county/farmer-and-gaines-township-at-odds-over-m6-signs
In the Video you will see a new semi trailer on his property with Grassmid Transport on its side that he is using. I called their company and told the dispatcher I wouldn't rent trailers from them, as they support a farmer Vern Verduin who opposes our Commander in Chief. He wants to use his business for political means (Like Domino's, Chick-a-fil), so I figure he is fair game for shutting his business down.
Grassmid Transport, Inc
adam@grassmidtransportinc.com
616.875.8171 | 800.253.8388
http://www.woodtv.com/dpp/news/local/kent_county/farmer-and-gaines-township-at-odds-over-m6-signs
uppityperson
(115,677 posts)property. It seems he is posting a political message which you do not agree with. And so you are calling for a boycott of a company that this man rents from? Is this right? Trying to clarify what you mean.
http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=forum&id=1256
FWIW, look around, read and post some more and you will soon have the 10 posts you need to start a thread.
RedCappedBandit
(5,514 posts)I'd rather it be posted in GD along with all the bad news.
Edit: After reading the thread, the yes arguments do have merit, though.
Digit
(6,163 posts)There are times when I go looking for good news and it can be difficult to find.
OneGrassRoot
(22,920 posts)mntleo2
(2,535 posts)steve2470
(37,457 posts)treestar
(82,383 posts)This would be a victory for the black cloud people.
OneGrassRoot
(22,920 posts)It's not an all-or-nothing thing.
GD moves so quickly that many really good posts -- inspiring posts -- go unnoticed. That's why a dedicated space would be valued for many.
The most popular "good news" stuff would still be posted in GD. There would just be a lot more good being shared in the GOOD NEWS group.
treestar
(82,383 posts)With a group you could exclude the black clouders too.
OneGrassRoot
(22,920 posts)not enough coffee in the world this morning, it seems.
Yes, clear guidelines for the group would need to be established. I hope others will help with that, if we get permission, that is.
LiberalLoner
(9,761 posts)lunatica
(53,410 posts)OneGrassRoot
(22,920 posts)I'll bug Skinner tomorrow to see if the 48 recs and many supportive comments indicate a GOOD NEWS Group would be worthwhile for the admins to set up.
I believe so.
I'll keep you posted. Thanks again!
cate94
(2,810 posts)great idea!
OneGrassRoot
(22,920 posts)datasuspect
(26,591 posts)Brigid
(17,621 posts)We need a place to go for good news.
felix_numinous
(5,198 posts)-and too often GD tends to fill with examples of destruction on one level or another. Being able to shift away to a forum with examples of progress, kindness and hope would rock.
I agree that having a good news forum would keep these threads available for longer periods of time