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Katashi_itto

(10,175 posts)
Tue Mar 26, 2013, 11:08 AM Mar 2013

Video -Adorable Young Japanese Girl practicing Sword -Iaido

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Iaido teaches discipline and focus. Iaido (居合道, Iaidō or just Iai 居合?) is a modern Japanese martial art associated with the smooth, controlled movements of drawing the sword from its scabbard or saya, striking or cutting an opponent, removing blood from the blade, and then replacing the sword in the scabbard.[citation needed] While new students of iaido[1] may start learning with a wooden sword (bokken) depending on the teaching style of a particular instructor, many of those who study iaido use a blunt edged sword (iaitō . Few, more experienced, iaido practitioners use a sharp edged sword (shinken).

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Video -Adorable Young Japanese Girl practicing Sword -Iaido (Original Post) Katashi_itto Mar 2013 OP
I loved iaido Recursion Mar 2013 #1
What a cutie. enlightenment Mar 2013 #2
I agree! I really enjoyed watching how determined she is :) Katashi_itto Mar 2013 #3
Adorable or Evil? Paul E Ester Mar 2013 #4
Oh, FFS. kestrel91316 Mar 2013 #5
+1! n/t backscatter712 Mar 2013 #12
As a practicing Iaidoka...your point? Trace any martial art back to it's original form, Katashi_itto Mar 2013 #6
My point is the sport is not adorable Paul E Ester Mar 2013 #16
I hope it's tamer than Paul E Ester Mar 2013 #19
The Original: Jūsan-nin no Shikaku / The Thirteen Assassins [1963 | 640p | full film Katashi_itto Mar 2013 #26
The scene where he's eating dinner, and making target practice on the peasant family.. Paul E Ester Mar 2013 #32
She cut someone's head off? LanternWaste Mar 2013 #15
If she learns the basic Iaido moves, she's training to behead someone. Paul E Ester Mar 2013 #17
BFD. Do you whine about ALL martial arts? More importantly, do you kestrel91316 Mar 2013 #21
I am biased toward Aikido Paul E Ester Mar 2013 #22
Well, then, you'd better work hard to make these sword arts illegal. kestrel91316 Mar 2013 #25
No problem with people studying martial arts Paul E Ester Mar 2013 #41
I used to do the same thing on the farm when I was 10, 11, 12... snooper2 Mar 2013 #51
+1000 I am done debating nonsense with him Katashi_itto Mar 2013 #23
How do you feel about fencing? Marr Mar 2013 #24
I studied fencing when I was younger. Paul E Ester Mar 2013 #49
Son na baka na... AsahinaKimi Mar 2013 #28
Gomene Paul E Ester Mar 2013 #38
... AsahinaKimi Mar 2013 #45
When I clicked this thread, I said to myself, "I wonder who said the inevitable stupid thing." WilliamPitt Mar 2013 #39
cheers...nt Paul E Ester Mar 2013 #42
Kewl...will we get to see her in Banki state or is she still learning Shikai? Rex Mar 2013 #7
Well this was film just last year. I will look and post more if I find more :) Katashi_itto Mar 2013 #8
Thanks...she is adorable. Rex Mar 2013 #9
Awwww, so cute LittleBlue Mar 2013 #10
Ha...! So thats what that refferance is!! I was racking my brains wondering...well thats not Iaido. Katashi_itto Mar 2013 #11
Hehe...banki!!! Rex Mar 2013 #13
That's "bankai." sakabatou Mar 2013 #33
Oops you are right, spelled it wrong. Rex Mar 2013 #43
Np sakabatou Mar 2013 #46
YES! Rex Mar 2013 #47
I said after he got his Vizard form, "Wouldn't it be cool if he also had Quincy powers?" sakabatou Mar 2013 #48
So he/has been/was/might be a shinigami, full blown hollow, visard, quincy, fullbringer Rex Mar 2013 #52
Well... (spoiler alert) sakabatou Mar 2013 #54
LOL Rex Mar 2013 #56
Me too sakabatou Mar 2013 #57
I don't think he is dead. Rex Mar 2013 #58
What I meant was after the battle with Aizen sakabatou Mar 2013 #61
If you outlaw katanas, only criminals will have katanas. Bucky Mar 2013 #14
Katanas are outlawed for the public in Japan without a license. Paul E Ester Mar 2013 #44
And THAT'S why the UN blue helmets were able to take over Japan's sovereignty! Bucky Mar 2013 #50
It is an ironic sort of world we live in cthulu2016 Mar 2013 #18
Discipline Aerows Mar 2013 #20
By the time she reaches 20 she may AsahinaKimi Mar 2013 #27
+100 Katashi_itto Mar 2013 #29
Toshiya - Pretty Japanese Girls in Kimono doing Kyudo (Japanese Archery) in Kyoto Katashi_itto Mar 2013 #31
Loved the Ninja dog.. AsahinaKimi Mar 2013 #34
:) Katashi_itto Mar 2013 #35
here is another cool item AsahinaKimi Mar 2013 #37
Oooo very nice!!! I've only done this twice, and never hit anything ! :) Katashi_itto Mar 2013 #40
That must be a lil harder on the forearms sakabatou Mar 2013 #36
Wish I started kenpo/karate at that age too sakabatou Mar 2013 #62
What a little cutie! She's going to be great one day! Demo_Chris Mar 2013 #30
Kids with swords = good. Kids with guns = bad. Common Sense Party Mar 2013 #53
Except no practitioner of iado has used them outside of a dojo (I think) sakabatou Mar 2013 #55
Righhttt... Katashi_itto Mar 2013 #60
I believe she's using a wakazashi Samurai_Writer Mar 2013 #59

enlightenment

(8,830 posts)
2. What a cutie.
Tue Mar 26, 2013, 11:29 AM
Mar 2013

So serious and determined! Must be frustrating when your arms are just a little too short to get the sword back in the scabbard in a smooth motion - she's going to be great.

 

Paul E Ester

(952 posts)
4. Adorable or Evil?
Tue Mar 26, 2013, 12:18 PM
Mar 2013
Iaido (居合道 Iaidō or just Iai 居合?) is a modern Japanese martial art associated with the smooth, controlled movements of drawing the sword from its scabbard or saya, striking or cutting an opponent, removing blood from the blade, and then replacing the sword in the scabbard.


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Iaido

Now, Koryu Iaido dogma claims that Koryu arts are pure because they were created and tested by warring samurai. Thus, current practitioners are unfit to alter swords arts because they have not been in real sword fights. However, this article makes it clear that for certain men, Japanese militarization gave them a combat opportunity to re-test and then alter their arts.

In some ways this sounds good for the martial arts, in other ways it is deeply, deeply disturbing. Nakamura discusses exchanging ideas with Takayama Masayoshi, a war criminal who was sentenced to twenty five years "because of his sword testing in China." As footnote #4 explains, the euphemism "sword testing" translates to "killing 10 Chinese prisoners of war with his sword."

That image--a dedicated martial artist killing prisoners to perfect his technique--is a haunting one. It is perfectly understandable that many teachers refused to keep the lessons from the War and "reverted to old-school sword techniques." In fact, I think I now understand why many lineages of iaido discourage tameshigiri (test-cutting).

But yet...as horrible as the Japanese war crimes were, were the samurai of old any better? Or do they just seem safe and pure because of the distance of history? Swords are designed for killing. We may play at creative-anachronism, but the real truth is messy and tinged with evil.


http://www.yachigusaryu.com/blog/2006/06/thoughts-on-iaido-by-nakamura.html

 

Katashi_itto

(10,175 posts)
6. As a practicing Iaidoka...your point? Trace any martial art back to it's original form,
Tue Mar 26, 2013, 01:04 PM
Mar 2013

generally they were there to give you the upper hand in combat.

Combat. You know, mankind's greatest sport.

Even today, while we practicing tameshigari against a bamboo pole, we acknowledge the idea that the pole we are cutting through is worth approximately two bodies that I would technically be slicing through.


"...real truth is messy and tinged with evil."

"Truth"...meh. Its all in your perspective.

No one in Iaido I know denies anything about the uses the the sword has been put to.

That's what the Samurai code of Bushido was meant to mitigate.

I've seen several people initially enthused with Iaido and Kendo, drop out because it suddenly sunk in, that this discipline is at it's core is about how to kill efficiently. In an of itself the discipline is neutral. It's is the sword's wielder's own morality that makes it a clean or bloody path.


A movie I heartly recommend is

"Sword Of Doom" it explores the nature of evil.



 

Paul E Ester

(952 posts)
16. My point is the sport is not adorable
Tue Mar 26, 2013, 02:14 PM
Mar 2013

It could be considered evil.

Kendo might be considered less evil. Aikido even less.

That a child would practice wringing blood off the blade of a sword, imaginary blood of a human, is disgusting. There is nothing wrong with adults being killing machines and budo arts are generally good for you. Some martial arts are better for your soul than others.

I'll check out the movie thanks.

 

Paul E Ester

(952 posts)
32. The scene where he's eating dinner, and making target practice on the peasant family..
Tue Mar 26, 2013, 03:50 PM
Mar 2013

Will haunt me forever. Cheers for the link to the old movie I'll check it out. "Total Massacre"

 

LanternWaste

(37,748 posts)
15. She cut someone's head off?
Tue Mar 26, 2013, 01:44 PM
Mar 2013

If you can supply us with some verified links in which this little girl is about to, or is in the process of, decapitating a prisoner of war or a political prisoner with no provocation, then I'll consider the moral relativism.

Until then, I'll simply let the idiots who consider themselves clever debate it, whilst I label it "adorable"

 

Paul E Ester

(952 posts)
17. If she learns the basic Iaido moves, she's training to behead someone.
Tue Mar 26, 2013, 02:20 PM
Mar 2013
Shohatto – sit face east, make a cut on the level of the neck

Uto - sit face north, 90 degree turning from west to north, right leg forward, make a cut on the level of the neck,

Sato – sit face south, 90 degree turning from east to north, left leg forward, make a cut on the level of the neck

Atarito – sit face west, 180 degree turning from south to east to north, left leg out, make a cut on the level of the neck

Inyoshintai - sit face east, make a cut on the level of the neck

Maybe she'll learn Junto
Junto - (ceremonial) - very calm and relaxing waza. You helping another samurai to finish his life. In case he will not have enough courage to cut his stomach, you will cut his head off. Sit face south, face to the left, left leg forward, draw the sword, upper block, jump to the facing direction to the forward-right side, make a cut (horizontal cut) on the level of the pelvis, move forward with the upper block, make a cut till the belly button, move blade over the opponent's body, switch tsuka when a tip of a the blade points to your right foot, "swing shiburi", notto, hold hand on kashira, three steps back.

it goes on and on, adorable really.

http://www.artofiaido.com/fight-techniques/omori-ryu-shoden
 

kestrel91316

(51,666 posts)
21. BFD. Do you whine about ALL martial arts? More importantly, do you
Tue Mar 26, 2013, 02:27 PM
Mar 2013

whine about people with guns going target shooting??

 

Paul E Ester

(952 posts)
22. I am biased toward Aikido
Tue Mar 26, 2013, 02:49 PM
Mar 2013

Aikido is mostly defensive. Even when it is used offensively it harnesses the attackers energy to use against him.

The other end of the spectrum is krav maga which has as it's goal the destruction of a person. I think what we choose to teach children is important and I think a child would learn much more positive things practicing aikido than Krav maga.

Kendo, another japanese sword art, removed all the beheading, neck cutting, and belly cutting replacing it with points scored by hitting parts of the opponents body. kendo is a sport, Iaido is a meditative art focused on efficient killing, based on actual experience.

Regarding gun target practice, I would not approve of a child practicing the "art of shooting a person". Most ranges will not allow the use of lifelike human targets for that reason.

 

Paul E Ester

(952 posts)
41. No problem with people studying martial arts
Tue Mar 26, 2013, 04:01 PM
Mar 2013

I don't want to ban swords.

I am just saying what she is doing is not adorable and some may consider it evil.

The blood thing is GROSS. Hara-kiri practice, please.

Peace.

 

Paul E Ester

(952 posts)
49. I studied fencing when I was younger.
Tue Mar 26, 2013, 04:37 PM
Mar 2013

It is a martial art but closer to kendo in that the violence of swordsmanship is more abstract. No imaginary dripping blood in fencing.

This is more akin to training with a bayonet or a broadsword.,

 

Paul E Ester

(952 posts)
38. Gomene
Tue Mar 26, 2013, 03:59 PM
Mar 2013

Baka was one of the first words I learned from my wife.
More often, I'm told I am kuchi ga umai.

Peace

 

WilliamPitt

(58,179 posts)
39. When I clicked this thread, I said to myself, "I wonder who said the inevitable stupid thing."
Tue Mar 26, 2013, 03:59 PM
Mar 2013

You did not disappoint.

 

Katashi_itto

(10,175 posts)
11. Ha...! So thats what that refferance is!! I was racking my brains wondering...well thats not Iaido.
Tue Mar 26, 2013, 01:25 PM
Mar 2013

Whats he talking about...!!?!

 

Rex

(65,616 posts)
47. YES!
Tue Mar 26, 2013, 04:25 PM
Mar 2013

I was fearful they were finally going to can the series. So happy to see it going!

What do you think about the current arc of Ichigo's mom being a Quincy? I love how they keep me guessing as to what will be next! This latest episode has me on the edge of my seat waiting to see what is going to happen between Ichigo's dad and that familiar figure that shows up at the end of the episode.

sakabatou

(42,133 posts)
48. I said after he got his Vizard form, "Wouldn't it be cool if he also had Quincy powers?"
Tue Mar 26, 2013, 04:32 PM
Mar 2013

Proven right when Ichigo used Blut.

 

Rex

(65,616 posts)
52. So he/has been/was/might be a shinigami, full blown hollow, visard, quincy, fullbringer
Tue Mar 26, 2013, 05:07 PM
Mar 2013

all those wrapped up in one person. I hope he gets to use ALL those powers - wouldn't THAT be something!

sakabatou

(42,133 posts)
54. Well... (spoiler alert)
Tue Mar 26, 2013, 10:42 PM
Mar 2013

Ever since he lost his fulbring powers to Ginjo, he hasn't gone vizard.

 

Rex

(65,616 posts)
56. LOL
Tue Mar 26, 2013, 11:55 PM
Mar 2013

Didn't notice and wondered why he has not. Didn't for see the head captain getting taken out so soon after losing his arm. That was a surprise.

 

Rex

(65,616 posts)
58. I don't think he is dead.
Wed Mar 27, 2013, 12:00 AM
Mar 2013

Like you said so stubborn I think he is drifting somewhere healing in some realm he knows about from his zillion personal adventures before becoming the boss. I mean when you fight like a boss, you die like one too so won't be surprised to see him just show back up out of the blue and start kicking ass like a young yoda.

Bucky

(53,928 posts)
14. If you outlaw katanas, only criminals will have katanas.
Tue Mar 26, 2013, 01:36 PM
Mar 2013

If King Arthur didn't have the right to own his swords, we'd all be speaking Ork today.

 

Paul E Ester

(952 posts)
44. Katanas are outlawed for the public in Japan without a license.
Tue Mar 26, 2013, 04:15 PM
Mar 2013

In Japan the people are not allowed to freely own a real katana without a license.

You can own, without a license, something that looks like a katana but it will made of a non ferrous metal. At the airport in japan they x-ray all the luggage. If they see a Katana they will test the blade and if a magnet sticks to the blade and you do not have a license they will confiscate it on the spot as an illegal weapon.

Japanese law prohibits owning a blade longer than 5.5cm without a permit.

Pocket knife lands tourist, 74, in lockup

Bucky

(53,928 posts)
50. And THAT'S why the UN blue helmets were able to take over Japan's sovereignty!
Tue Mar 26, 2013, 04:52 PM
Mar 2013
First they came for the Japanese, but I didn't speak up because I don't get manga. Then, when they came for me, there was no one left who could fight Iaido style.
--Elie Wiesel
 

Aerows

(39,961 posts)
20. Discipline
Tue Mar 26, 2013, 02:27 PM
Mar 2013

was the very best thing I ever learned from the martial arts, along with calm in the face of difficult situations. Both of my nieces are in martial arts now, and I couldn't be prouder of both of them.

AsahinaKimi

(20,776 posts)
27. By the time she reaches 20 she may
Tue Mar 26, 2013, 03:07 PM
Mar 2013

be an expert. I was probably younger than her when I took Kendo and Judo. I wish I had continued. I was amazed to read that more women take Kendo and Kenjitsu more than men. Kyudo (Archery) as well.

She is really cute though, I would love to give her a big hug!

sakabatou

(42,133 posts)
55. Except no practitioner of iado has used them outside of a dojo (I think)
Tue Mar 26, 2013, 10:43 PM
Mar 2013

I've used chinese broadsword (dao), spear and staff inside of a dojo and have never used them outside.

Samurai_Writer

(2,934 posts)
59. I believe she's using a wakazashi
Wed Mar 27, 2013, 12:21 AM
Mar 2013

Which is the short sword. The katana would probably be as tall as she is.

I study a form very similar to this girl... American Hard Style Japanese Swordsmanship. It takes useful elements from three traditional Japanese Sword Styles and combines them into American Hard Style. They are Batto Ryu, Toyama Ryu and Shinkendo.

Her form is very good... she is going to make a good master of Iaido

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