SCALIA: Have gays and lesbians tried NOT having homosexual sex?

[kpete]

Here Are the 7 Worst Things Antonin Scalia Has Said or Written About Homosexuality
This week the Supreme Court will hear arguments about equal rights for gay Americans. But we already know what Scalia thinks.

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7. Have gays and lesbians tried NOT having homosexual sex?

During oral arguments in Lawrence, the attorney challenging the Texas law argued that it was "fundamentally illogical" for straight people to be able to have non-procreative sex without being harassed by the state while same-sex couples did not have the right to be "free from a law that says you can't have any sexual intimacy at all." But Scalia pointed out that gays and lesbians could just have sex with people of the opposite sex instead. "It doesn't say you can't have—you can't have any sexual intimacy. It says you cannot have sexual intimacy with a person of the same sex." Later on in his dissent, Scalia argued that Americans' constitutional right to equal protection under the law wasn't violated by the Texas law for that reason. "Men and women, heterosexuals and homosexuals, are all subject to (Texas') prohibition of deviate sexual intercourse with someone of the same sex." That should sound familiar: It's the same argument defenders of bans on interracial marriage used to make, arguing that the bans were constitutional because they affected whites and blacks equally.

Scalia has been on a tear lately, calling the Voting Rights Act a "racial entitlement" and ripping into the president in a dissent on Arizona's harsh anti-immigration law in the middle of an election season. But when it comes to LGBT rights, he's been off the rails for a long time

much more:
http://www.motherjones.com/politics/2013/03/scalia-worst-things-said-written-about-homosexuality-court

[Faux pas]

1. Yeah scalia, right after the heteros quit trying to have sex.

Screw this supreme court justice for life shit! Wrong side of justice and history.

[Warpy]

84. I was going to point out he's been unsuccessful at keeping that thing in his pants

and how unfair it is of him to suggest that some of us don't have the right to sexual expression just because he finds it icky.

What rigid, narrow, morally certain men like Scalia never realize is that hetero sex seems just as icky to gays. Telling them to go against their basic natures in that department is always going to be doomed to failure.

[Eleanors38]

108. "You must eat your peas & carrots!"

[Faux pas]

116. He reminds me of a slug

and not in a good way. (lol)

I do believe you've nailed it.

[JaneyVee]

2. Gee, Scalia. What a deep insightful thought.

[badtoworse]

3. He's a piece of work

[William769]

4. OY!

[SoonerPride]

5. Scalia is a pig

[nolabear]

10. Please. Pigs wouldn't have him.

[FourScore]

25. I don't think that's at all fair

to pigs.

[Spitfire of ATJ]

46. He's hung like a corkscrew?

Remind me to never to go with him to a wine tasting festival.

[Solly Mack]

6. I wonder if Scalia has picked up Rehnquist's old pill habit.

[oldhippydude]

7. During oral arguments indeed n/t

[Spitfire of ATJ]

49. Beat me to it!

[oldhippydude]

57. the irony

there were no posts when I started.. during my reply puter froze... I assumed someone else got the punch line... however great minds doo run in the same gutter..

[krispos42]

8. We know that Republicans have tried to not have "homosexual" sex.

And they, too, have failed. Right, Pastor Haggart? Representative Foley? Senator Craig?

[LAGC]

23. ...

[sigmasix]

47. right wing pedophilia

I wouldn't be surprised if Scalia supported lowering the age of consent to 12 to keep Ted Nugent, Rush Limbaugh and the other right wing pedophiles from being punished for their evil. Scalia has revealed his hatred for America on many ocassions- this is another instance of Teabaggers targeting America for liberty destruction and the unravelling of American cohesion.
Why do Teabaggers hate America? Why does Scalia hate America? Why do fox "news" viewers hate America? Why do NRA gun-fetish advocates hate America?
They hate the liberties and social saftey net that allows Americans to speak the truth to right wing power structures and have a voice about labor, drug, immigration and environmental policy. The strong America created by the new deal and other progressive policies is roundly hated by right wing extremists like Scalia, Glenn Beck and LaPierre. This is the reason right wing teabagger legislators and Scalia are working so hard to destroy our dearly held principles of freedom and equality. I just wish these people that hate America so much would move to a country they like, instead of ruining OUR country.

[VWolf]

52. Would be great if they tried not having heterosexual sex

Then we'd be rid of them once and for all

[justiceischeap]

9. Is it me, or is he getting worse the older he gets?

I don't want this to sound like ageism but it seems as he gets older, he's been more forthright with his bigotry... or maybe I'm paying more attention now.

[Paladin]

12. He's Getting Worse By The Day.

And while age may be a factor, the basic reason is because he's obviously a deeply flawed person. I believe Scalia could teach Cheney a thing or two about life on the Dark Side; perhaps he already has....

[randome]

14. He's gonna blow!

[Spitfire of ATJ]

109. Who?

[Heather MC]

16. He certainly has become more, impeachable

[Johonny]

21. I agree- he clearly knows why he's wrong in his arguments

he just doesn't care. He'd love to move back to the 1800s except for how badly he, himself, would be discriminated against back then.

[missingthebigdog]

22. The OP case is ten years ago

Lawrence was heard in 2003. Those were his comments then.

Not defending him by any means- I just think it's important to keep the timeline straight.

[Smarmie Doofus]

30. "We get neither better nor worse, but more like our true selves." n/t

[SmileyRose]

72. off topic but

I LOVE YOUR NAME

[Smarmie Doofus]

79. I was hoping you'd say: "Hmmm... who said that?"

I was ready w. "Smarmie Doofus. Can't ya read?"

Actually it was Voltaire or someone like that. ( i.e. someone smart, foreign and dead.)

[Blue_Tires]

87. May Lamberton Becker(?)

http://quotations.about.com/od/stagesoflife/a/growing-up.htm

[Smarmie Doofus]

101. And here she is:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/May_Lamberton_Becker

I was 2 out of three. Smart and dead.... but American as all get out.

[bullwinkle428]

11. Wow...he's just mailing in RW talking points from the Mesozoic era at this point.

[Paladin]

13. Nicely put. (nt)

[Scuba]

15. Have SCOTUS members tried NOT being stupid and bigoted?

OK, some have. But clearly not all.

[FourScore]

26. LOL n/t

[idwiyo]

31. For some of them that's a physical impossibility. Not enough brain left for anything else.

[toby jo]

17. Hey, Johnny supreme, you're legislating for people with bigger hearts and deeper minds.

Wrap your head around that once in awhile, would ya please?

[cbdo2007]

18. Has he tried not having heterosexual sex?? Only seems fair that if he wants them to do the opposite

he should do it as well.

[jtuck004]

20. I am more than positive others have tried not having sex with him.

Homosexual or heterosexual

And their life has been richer for that.

[rurallib]

40. count me in that number which must be over 7 billion

He doesn't even make any sense.
And he is considered a "conservative intellectual" as if there were such a thing.

Looks like his views may come from his son:
"Insights into Scalia’s understanding of homosexuality (or lack thereof) can perhaps be found through his son, Rev. Paul Scalia, a Catholic priest in Arlington, Virginia. The younger Scalia has worked with the Church’s Courage ministry, which promotes “chastity” for gay Catholics using principles from ex-gay therapy. He has also spoken openly on the topic, and though he’s proven quite capable of reiterating the Church’s anti-gay teachings, a 2005 article reveals just how distorted the family’s view on homosexuality may be."

http://thinkprogress.org/lgbt/2012/12/17/1345051/scalias-son-dont-label-kids-gay-or-its-harder-to-condemn-them/

[proReality]

118. Yeah, chastity has worked so well for so many priests! n/t

[bhikkhu]

19. Isn't it more about love?

One thing that gets me is that so many objections are based on physical procreation and biological construction.

Not long ago I was listening to an interview about a man who may or may not have "been gay" - the question was about emotional attachment and lifelong partnership with a person of the same sex, but the answer was "he couldn't possibly have been gay", as there was no evidence at all of gay sex having occurred...some people just don't get it, in the most boneheaded obvious way.

It makes one wonder whether some people are capable of feeling or perceiving love, and so can't imagine that its of any importance to others.

[Fawke Em]

24. What an embarrassment he is to this country.

Seriously?

[goclark]

77. God Bless America

[hrmjustin]

27. Wow, just wow.

you get the sense he enjoys annoying people with is presence

[Spitfire of ATJ]

50. Bingo. That's how you score points on the Right.

[pauljulian]

91. Actually, I think that's the entire mindset of the Right

Actually, I think that's the entire mindset of the Right... all about "scoring points" and "winning an argument," and seldom if ever about doing the correct, decent and responsible thing... examine the r/w trolls on just about any liberal blog for evidence.

[Spitfire of ATJ]

97. What's funny is when they parrot something,...

...and then claim they're free thinkers.

[idwiyo]

28. What? ... Is there ANY brain left in that scull?...

[mikeysnot]

29. Hey Scalia ever try not being an ASSHOLE

or does it just come naturally to you....?

[Spitfire of ATJ]

51. His BEING an asshole is why he feels threatened by gays....

He needs to loosen up.

[Ian_rd]

32. Poor guy's turned into a parody of a right-wing radio shock jock. Meanwhile ...

... in the not-so-dumb world, I heard a story on NPR about parents protecting kids from inappropriate TV. And the family they featured comprised of two fathers and their kids. The gay aspect didn't even come up as an issue in the story, not at all whatsoever, just a mention of how the child's "dads" safeguard their family's TV consumption. This was as clear a sign as any that this is being accepted as a normal situation. Couldn't help but raise a fist in my car on the way to work.

[kestrel91316]

33. Reagan appointed this guy. Why isn't he dead yet????

He's 77. We could be in for a few more years of this insanity.

[Initech]

34. Has Scalia tried NOT being a douchebag?

[randome]

36. He may end up convincing some of the swing judges to vote against his assinine arguments.

[abelenkpe]

35. His comments are so offensive

the man is an embarrassment for our nation and the supreme court. Why has no one made an effort to remove him from the court?

[MurrayDelph]

37. Has Scalia ever tried

NOT being an asshole?

[valerief]

38. Why does he get to breathe? nt

[tavalon]

103. An unfair world, I'm afraid

Actually, neither fair nor unfair, dispassionate world. It is unfortunate that he continues to consume air and water.

[titanicdave]

39. Was this idiot

born that stupid or has he worked on being stupid all of his life??....what a dick

[ZRT2209]

41. Remember the student who asked Scalia if he had anal sex with his wife?

Fair question.

[liberal_at_heart]

42. there's no way this can continue for many more years. There simply is no constitutional or legal

argument for what they are saying. They sound completely and utterly ridiculous. The things they are saying are as ridiculous as what the republicans were saying about rape and abortion during the last campaign.

[jessie04]

43. Isn't it time for him to retire ?

He needs to go.

[yellowcanine]

44. Scalia would probably have upheld "separate but equal" on similar grounds.

"We are not saying that blacks can't go to public school, just not a public school for whites."

[peace13]

45. Home of the free!

When he puts it that way it sounds even more stupid.

[blackspade]

48. Scalia has no business on the Supreme Court

He diminishes it as an institution daily. Just like Thomas, Alito, and Roberts.

[Spitfire of ATJ]

53. Scalia is a great example of the Right and why America is rejecting it.

[Walk away]

54. If only his parents had tried and succeeded! He is going to destroy the SCOUS. nt

[Downtown Hound]

55. Has Scalia ever tired shoving an umbrella up his ass?

And no Clarence, that question was NOT directed at you.

[backscatter712]

56. Hurry up and die, Scalia! n/t

[ZombieHorde]

58. Yes, they're called

Dungeon & Dragons fans.

[caseymoz]

59. I seem to recall-- hasn't that been tried?

Like, from 1800-1950? Like most conservative policies, wasn't that why liberalism came about, because people despised it?

[xtraxritical]

60. Hey, they're lawyers. Speaking arcane bullshit and obfuscating is their bread and butter.

[barbtries]

61. he's like hate personified.

does not deserve to be on the Court.

[LiberalFighter]

62. Gays and lesbians should have sex with other sex?

Why would uptight religious conservatives want gays and lesbians to have sex with heterosexuals? I thought they just wanted heterosexuals to have sex.If gays and lesbians can't marry how does one know if they are in a relationship and not open to a new relationship that might be hetersosexual?

[Major Nikon]

63. Scalia would have been the lone dissenter on Loving v Virginia

[get the red out]

64. Has Scalia tried not butchering the Constitution

in favor of his particular religious beliefs?

[pokerfan]

65. Young Turks

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[Iliyah]

66. Far right conservatives are always concerned

about what you are doing in your bedroom.

[Zoeisright]

67. I just wish there was a hell so that fucker

would burn in it.

[Dark n Stormy Knight]

68. Has Scalia tried not being a racist, homophobic tool?

I see I should have read all of the responses first. "Has Scalia tried..." maybe should become a Twitter hashtag!

[The Wizard]

69. The people want to know

Is Justice Scalia a self loathing closeted gay man?

[SmileyRose]

70. He takes pride in being the crazee uncle

I think half the time he spews shit only for the shock value. Doesn't give one fig about thoughtful discourse or anything remotely related to serious law.

We knew he was unfit when he was nominated.

[benld74]

71. Scalia, Please define " deviate sexual intercourse ",,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,

[Volaris]

124. means fucking with the lights on.

[AnnieK401]

73. I can't believe he gets away with statements like this.

Oh yeah, he's got a lifetime appointment. Wish we could stop that.

[Zorra]

74. That seals it. Tony will go down in history as the

George W. Bush of the United States Supreme Court.

[Rider3]

75. What a dolt.

I will never respect this guy.

[olddots]

76. can somebody explain why his job is for life ?

Why are these judges who we have little if any say in the selection of given a job for the remainder of their lives like royalty ?

he is part of an antiquated system that fears the facts of progress because it would end their ignorance and that's all this turd maggot has =ignorance -ego and insecurity .Scalia should be held responsible .

[Beacool]

78. Ahhhhh, Scalia............

The Justice who argued that the Paula Jones civil case should go forward because it wouldn't take more of the president's time than what it took for him to play a round of golf. Five years, $70M of taxpayer's money, a president & first lady left with a $2.5M legal debt, staffers left with a combined $14M debt and what did we get for it? A special prosecutor who used as evidence an illegally recorded audio tape to entrap the president over a fling between two consenting adults.

FUCK Scalia!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[Boomerproud]

80. There is no way he believed his own argument in that case.

Everything he hoped would happen to the Clinton's did in fact happen. I truly believe the only thing that upsets Scalia is the fact that Bill and Hillary Clinton are alive and (despite him) and thriving.

[Beacool]

100. You're probably correct.

That bastard is a disgrace to the Court.

[Kurovski]

81. I don't know, Tony, can you NOT have a second helping of chocolate chip cheese cake?

Doesn't look like it.

[ck4829]

82. How is it intimacy if you can only have it with someone you have no desire for?

God, how did this guy become a Supreme Court justice when he's not even qualified to be a doorstop?

[TBF]

83. Oh FFS ... nt

[Amimnoch]

85. Not that it is any of his fucking business, nor does it have ANY bearring on

Constitutional rights, but actually yes Many of us have at some point in our lives attempted to make ourselves believe we could be straight, and done everything we could to try to make it happen, including abstaining from sex, or even trying to force ourselves to have sex with opposite sex partners that we had no sexual interest in what so ever.

[phylny]

96. Thank you for bringing this up -

what does MORALITY (and who gets to decide WHOSE morals?) have to do with the constitutionality of your sexual desire for a man or a woman?

I could no more "make" myself desire to have sex with a woman than a lesbian would want to have sex with my husband.

What a fucking moron Scalia is.

[Cali_Democrat]

86. What would you say to Antonin Scalia if you were giving an oral aurgument before the Supreme Court?

Here's what I would say:

"Hey Scalia, I know you consider yourself to be the resident troll on the court, but have you ever thought about siting back and keeping your mouth shut like your friend Mr. Thomas over here? The guy hasn't uttered a word for years."

Boom!

[Rex]

88. Wow I had no idea Scalia was that stupid on the subject.

I guess he has never had true sex.

Sex = the act between two people for sexual gratification.

How can people have sexual gratification with someone they don't want to have sex with Tony? You are a really stupid little man.

[Guy Whitey Corngood]

89. He should try fucking himself. nt

[Spitfire of ATJ]

110. He just did.

[John2]

90. Scalia is just another

present day Robert Taney. He doesn't belong on the Supreme Court. He is mixing his personal and religious beliefs with the Constitution. It is true some states enforced laws against interracial marriages and even having sex out of wedlock was deviant. He belongs back in the time of the Salem witch hunts.

[patricia92243]

92. This is VERY scary to think somebody with that much power is that ignorant!! n/t

[Warren DeMontague]

93. Exactly. It is offensive to tell consenting adults how to conduct their consenting adult sex lives.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1002&pid=2534895

But try explaining that to DU's anti porn brigade.

[Phillip McCleod]

94. gawd that toad must GO!

impeach the rat bastard.

[dawn frenzy adams]

95. Insane

There is something seriously wrong with this man's mind.

[intheflow]

98. As if I needed seven more reasons to not respect Scalia...

Still, I'm glad to see him voluntarily both condemning his soul to hell and enshrining his historical legacy as one of the worst, most prejudiced judges to ever sit on the SCOTUS. Right up there with Justice Taney leading the way on Dredd Scott and Justice Brown on Plessy v. Ferguson, to be judged harshly for eternity.

[treestar]

99. That is the same argument they make about marriage

Equal rights to marry someone of the opposite sex. A gay person is free to marry someone of the opposite sex. They could not be clearer in saying they are not listening at all and not considering other people's point of view.

They are so mean and little. They don't even think of the straight people who may have been married to gays trying to do the conventional thing in the past. So they are putting potential suffering onto some straight people, too. They want to go back to the 50s where

[tavalon]

102. Thoughtless comments from a brainless "Justice"

Luckily, I hold the bar very, very, very low for Scalia and his lapdog.

[allan01]

104. re:SCALIA: Have gays and lesbians tried NOT having homosexual sex?

Don't jump on me. This post is just my opinion, which I am entitled to. Thanks.

[Coyotl]

105. This is what happens to a nation that lets a fool steal the Presidency

You end up with another fool in charge of the Supreme Court. When will the time come to undo the Junta?

[agentS]

106. Um, Justice Scalia, I think you've missed the point of sexual orientation...

The reason why the Gays and Lesbians want to have sex with the same gender is because they are configured for sex with the same gender, just like we are for opposite gender and Bis are set up for both genders.
It's like trying to force an American plug into an Australian socket.



You 'might' get one prong to fit but the whole thing ain't gonna fit. Know what I'm saying, judge?

[Fearless]

107. Umm... forever?

That'll be a resounding no.

[davidpdx]

111. I don't even need to read it to know what he said was asinine

My only wish is I'd be in the US the day he kicks the bucket. Because I'd go into the nearest bar and yell "the next round is on me"

[AndyTiedye]

112. From His Dissent on "Lawrence v. Texas"

Scalia voted to keep throwing gay people in prison. He would very much like to let them do so again.

[Divine Discontent]

113. it's amazing someone so lacking could be a justice... n/t

[Granny M]

114. We have a nutcase on the highest court in the land. Probably more than one nutcase. nt

[Nitram]

115. Has Scalia tried

not being a total @sshole?

[spanone]

117. he shames supreme court. he shames humankind

[olegramps]

119. Scalia is a member of the secret Opus Dei a cult that is determined to create a theocracy.

Despite numerous attempts to awaken the citizens as to their intent on imposing their religious sanctions on the entirety of society, they continue to be able to operate unopposed in virtual secrecy. This cult has taken over the Catholic Church hierarchy blocking any attempts at meaningful reform with their determination to return it to the mentality of the Dark Ages. The cult is so misogynistic that their multi-million dollar headquarters in New York City has separate parking and entrances for males and females. Women in the cult are relegated to performing menial tasks and regarded as inferior beings by their male superiors.

[klyon]

120. scalia have you tried not breathing

we would appreciate it

[Moostache]

121. I keep waiting for him top pull of his mask and reveal he's really Rush Limbaugh... (n/t)

[Jack Rabbit]

122. Has Scalia tried not being an insufferable idiot?

Yes, that's a rhetorical question.

[WhaTHellsgoingonhere]

123. Rachel nailed it: Scalia is nothing more than a troll