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Roy Rolling

(6,905 posts)
Thu Mar 28, 2013, 11:02 PM Mar 2013

WTF is wrong with some people?

Almost universally there is a limit of three shotgun shells in a gun when hunting ducks.

But there is an outcry when it is suggested to regulate 30 and 100-bullet high capacity magazines in guns used to hunt humans?

Are ducks and other waterfowl worth protecting but human children are not?

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WTF is wrong with some people? (Original Post) Roy Rolling Mar 2013 OP
Children are only important in the womb... Historic NY Mar 2013 #1
George Carlin said it best: "When you're pre born you're fine. When you're pre school you're fucked! Initech Mar 2013 #6
You got it nadinbrzezinski Mar 2013 #2
Nothing ProgressiveProfessor Mar 2013 #3
There is no civilian need for such capacity. They are for wars, the unspoken intent is overthrowing freshwest Mar 2013 #4
"...the unspoken intent is overthrowing the government and it always has been." Volaris Mar 2013 #9
You need to defend yourself from..... Cleita Mar 2013 #5
The more posts I read... Fla_Democrat Mar 2013 #7
I sort of agree. Igel Mar 2013 #8
Thanks Roy Rolling Mar 2013 #11
I might add, the analogy actually works nadinbrzezinski Mar 2013 #12
I own MANY guns backwoodsbob Mar 2013 #10

Initech

(100,013 posts)
6. George Carlin said it best: "When you're pre born you're fine. When you're pre school you're fucked!
Thu Mar 28, 2013, 11:43 PM
Mar 2013
 

nadinbrzezinski

(154,021 posts)
2. You got it
Thu Mar 28, 2013, 11:05 PM
Mar 2013

And my feathered kids appreciate it

Nor could they use the guns to defend themselves. The Glock is heavier than them

for those who need that.

freshwest

(53,661 posts)
4. There is no civilian need for such capacity. They are for wars, the unspoken intent is overthrowing
Thu Mar 28, 2013, 11:30 PM
Mar 2013
the government and it always has been.

People won't call them on it because they are afraid of them and there are so many they are considered mainstream.

They have been conditioned by religion, conspiracy theorists or hate radio for the collapse of society or want a revolution because they don't like the way things are.

Skim the propaganda they spew off the top and that's what's left.

Volaris

(10,266 posts)
9. "...the unspoken intent is overthrowing the government and it always has been."
Fri Mar 29, 2013, 02:21 AM
Mar 2013

Only the governments that THEY didn't vote for. The other ones are fine, and can stay. No matter how bad they are at you know, actually GOVERNING.

Igel

(35,268 posts)
8. I sort of agree.
Thu Mar 28, 2013, 11:46 PM
Mar 2013

But not really.

The only guns that are really licensed for hunting humans are police guns. Possibly those in the house for self-defense, but that's like hunting ducks in a barrel.

The other guns aren't licensed for hunting humans, even when they're in season and you have a toe tag.

The analogy fails. There may be an argument in there, but not using that kind of analogical reasoning.

Roy Rolling

(6,905 posts)
11. Thanks
Fri Mar 29, 2013, 10:13 AM
Mar 2013

The analogy is that right-wingers accept gun regulations on ammunition limits on weapons that hunt ducks, but there is a "second amendment" outcry when gun regulations are proposed to limit ammunition on assault rifles.

 

nadinbrzezinski

(154,021 posts)
12. I might add, the analogy actually works
Fri Mar 29, 2013, 11:41 AM
Mar 2013

Both the AR family and AK family of weapons were designed primarily for combat...so was the M-1 and M-14, as well as the ones designed by Springfield Arms going back to mid 19th century.

That any of them are used for hunting, sorry, primary design of these weapons was military, to be used by the line infantry in combat. And unless I missed my beat, deer are not joining the infantry, for that matter chimps. (They have a capable hand for that)

In fact, they all met military specs as to the size of the round, and even grain count. Once we understood cavitation, they also met military standards for both cavitation and tumbling. Hell, recent testing of the next infantry rifle includes extensive testing with ballistic gel and human analogues. (Read pigs)

What is funny is what you said about the police. The old venerable 38 was developed primarily for target shooting and adopted by police forces since it was cheap. These days they use side arms that once again were developed for military forces...meeting military specifications. These include the Beretta 9mm, originally developed for the Italian carabinieri, who wanted a gun with same ammo as the MP-5 SMG. Now it has been adopted by the Armed Services and multiple police forces.

The Glock family was developed for the German military again, under mail spec.

What boggles the mind is the insistence that these are just hunting weapons and never ever had a thing to do with the military, or that is just a coincidence...that is what boggles the mind.

 

backwoodsbob

(6,001 posts)
10. I own MANY guns
Fri Mar 29, 2013, 02:28 AM
Mar 2013

I have stated over and over I would have no problem with a FIVE round limit on magazines and jail time for those who dont turn in the higher capacity mags.
The only exception is pistols that hold more than 5 without extending past the bottom of the grip...no extended grips

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