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cali

(114,904 posts)
Fri Mar 29, 2013, 01:40 PM Mar 2013

Jon Hamm Is Being Treated Like an Actress. He Hates It



Jon Hamm has a great job playing repressed advertising executive Don Draper on Mad Men, what appears to be a terrific long-standing life partnership with actress and director Jennifer Westfeldt, and a great deal of critical respect for his work. He’s also got a large … problem. Just as actresses have been plagued by paparazzi shots up their skirts and with flashes that can, at times, expose their nipples, Hamm's become perturbed by the proliferation of photos of and gossip about his penis, whether he's caught at an unflattering angle on the street or asked to wear underwear on the Mad Men set so he's not exposed by tighter-fitting suits.

"They're called privates for a reason. I'm wearing pants, for fuck's sake," he grumbled to Rolling Stone. "When people feel the freedom to create Tumblr accounts about my cock, I feel like that wasn't part of the deal."

For an earlier generation of actors, it wouldn't have been. But for actresses, having your anatomy scrutinized has long been part of the celebrity, er, package. The questions that Hamm faces, from whether he should just invest in some Calvins to whether he should be flattered by the attention, are ones actresses have fielded forever. It's a framing that acts as if the problem were the kind of underwear starlets and their stylists were picking out, rather than the photographers who zoom telephoto lenses in on their crotches. It says that if people get a glimpse of your body once, they're entitled to speculate about it forever, and you're a prude for reminding people that you're more than the sum of your junk.

What makes Hamm different from, say, Anne Hathaway, who had to weather discussion about the appearance of her nipples in her Academy Awards dress, is that Hamm isn't used to being objectified. He has outrage left to burn, rather than being exhausted by endless appearance-based prying and insane body standards. It might be easy for men to brush off how women are treated when they're unaffected. But when they're subject to the same standards, men often discover quickly how difficult to endure they really are.


http://www.slate.com/blogs/xx_factor/2013/03/28/jon_hamm_s_penis_mad_men_actor_is_sick_of_being_singled_out.html
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Jon Hamm Is Being Treated Like an Actress. He Hates It (Original Post) cali Mar 2013 OP
rec rec rec elehhhhna Mar 2013 #1
K&R redqueen Mar 2013 #2
lol, in other words, lay off his dick quinnox Mar 2013 #3
Oh! The poor boy 2naSalit Mar 2013 #4
He's hating it all the way to the bank Major Nikon Mar 2013 #5
Shocking that this whole thing should "pop up" in the "thick" of the marketing weeks for Season 6 alcibiades_mystery Mar 2013 #7
Yeah, if he wants a *normal* life, he can trade lives with me... Blue_Tires Mar 2013 #10
Haha sure LittleBlue Mar 2013 #6
Bingo! MinneapolisMatt Mar 2013 #9
I had a pair of pants made from thin material once. dawg Mar 2013 #8
Even if Hamm is playing this, like some say Cal Carpenter Mar 2013 #11
Wondering why the Original Post requires bold font? nt Bernardo de La Paz Mar 2013 #12
It doesn't require it. I generally bold anything that isn't my original text cali Mar 2013 #24
That's what the 'excerpt' tag is for. Much more recognizable as such and much easier to read. nt Bernardo de La Paz Mar 2013 #25
for you. you do it how you like. I'll do what I wish. Problem with that? Tough. cali Mar 2013 #27
Of course you will. But DU provides the excerpt tag for a wise and powerful purpose. Bernardo de La Paz Mar 2013 #28
Implying that actors and actresses don't love attention and admiration... Comrade_McKenzie Mar 2013 #13
Dilemma. Brings up a point though . . . SleeplessinSoCal Mar 2013 #14
if he can master the money shot like peter north datasuspect Mar 2013 #15
lol quinnox Mar 2013 #16
The Hamaconda will not be restrained! Mr. Sinister Mar 2013 #17
And it's only been a very few days he's had to endure this lunatica Mar 2013 #18
Can't wait for the huge fake boner skit on SNL thelordofhell Mar 2013 #19
I suspect his agent got this started. This is a boon to his career. Honeycombe8 Mar 2013 #20
Now he knows what women are subjected to every day meow2u3 Mar 2013 #21
Street harassment: Bernardo de La Paz Mar 2013 #26
He should stop dishing it out? Is he known to be sexist? Beaverhausen Mar 2013 #29
I'm skeptical. False modesty? caseymoz Mar 2013 #22
Maybe if more of them got a taste of it, they'd stop? tblue Mar 2013 #23
I doubt he actually "hates" it, as others have noted on this thread. nomorenomore08 Mar 2013 #30
The era the show portrays was ALL about sexuality SoCalDem Mar 2013 #31
 

quinnox

(20,600 posts)
3. lol, in other words, lay off his dick
Fri Mar 29, 2013, 01:51 PM
Mar 2013

Leave the guy alone, he is hung like a horse, and he is sick of all the attention for it.

Major Nikon

(36,827 posts)
5. He's hating it all the way to the bank
Fri Mar 29, 2013, 01:52 PM
Mar 2013

Why would a guy who doesn't want to be "objectified" forget to wear tighty wighties on set?

Hamm is playing the media like a tune.

 

alcibiades_mystery

(36,437 posts)
7. Shocking that this whole thing should "pop up" in the "thick" of the marketing weeks for Season 6
Fri Mar 29, 2013, 01:58 PM
Mar 2013

Can we say "Record Viewership for Mad Men Season 6 Episode 1?"

A transparent (har har!) viral advertising campaign.

 

LittleBlue

(10,362 posts)
6. Haha sure
Fri Mar 29, 2013, 01:58 PM
Mar 2013

Boy, are people misunderstanding Hamm. That's his false modesty. He loves showing off his dick, but feigns the desire for privacy so he doesn't look like a show-off. Otherwise, he would wear underwear, and his coworker actually requested that he wear underwear on the set. The people who work with him say he "knows what he's got" wink wink.

But please, do continue. I wouldn't want to ruin a misguided op-ed.




dawg

(10,624 posts)
8. I had a pair of pants made from thin material once.
Fri Mar 29, 2013, 02:01 PM
Mar 2013

I only wore them a few times until I caught a look at myself in the mirror. Even with the tighty whities I probably wore at the time, there was a distinct outline there.

So I stopped wearing the pants.

That's what a guy does when he doesn't want to draw attention to himself in this way.

This guy is seeking attention, which is what sexy celebrities, both male and female, do.

Cal Carpenter

(4,959 posts)
11. Even if Hamm is playing this, like some say
Fri Mar 29, 2013, 02:04 PM
Mar 2013

I think this article makes a really good point in the broader context.

Regardless of Hamm's true inner thoughts or motivations.

Bernardo de La Paz

(49,000 posts)
28. Of course you will. But DU provides the excerpt tag for a wise and powerful purpose.
Fri Mar 29, 2013, 05:54 PM
Mar 2013

Mindful writers use the tools available to enhance comprehension for their readers and make the experience more pleasant.

Do what you want. You will anyway. But there is no need for belligerence in response to a thoughtful suggestion. Unless you think you are above reproach and how dare anyone suggest a formatting change.


 

Comrade_McKenzie

(2,526 posts)
13. Implying that actors and actresses don't love attention and admiration...
Fri Mar 29, 2013, 02:38 PM
Mar 2013

Whether it be for their bodies or their talent.



I have a Hollywood sign to sell anyone that believes that.

SleeplessinSoCal

(9,112 posts)
14. Dilemma. Brings up a point though . . .
Fri Mar 29, 2013, 03:18 PM
Mar 2013

If this had come out before "Bridesmaids", I wouldn't have been able to shake the image from my mind and the comedic effect of his scenes would have been lost. Similarly with gay actors who don't want to be outed. It's hard to shake the mind from knowing that he isn't the least bit like the character he's playing. And some outed gays careers do suffer and lose jobs because they're out.

Dilemma.

 

datasuspect

(26,591 posts)
15. if he can master the money shot like peter north
Fri Mar 29, 2013, 03:20 PM
Mar 2013

he might have a future in hardcore pornography.

the camera likes huge weiners.

Honeycombe8

(37,648 posts)
20. I suspect his agent got this started. This is a boon to his career.
Fri Mar 29, 2013, 04:38 PM
Mar 2013

Handsome, sex symbol, and now supposedly well hung, too? Every man should have those problems.

meow2u3

(24,761 posts)
21. Now he knows what women are subjected to every day
Fri Mar 29, 2013, 04:50 PM
Mar 2013

All I say is that if can't take it, he should stop dishing it out.

Beaverhausen

(24,470 posts)
29. He should stop dishing it out? Is he known to be sexist?
Fri Mar 29, 2013, 05:56 PM
Mar 2013

I hadn't heard that about him. Or are you just accusing him of something he hasn't done just because he is male?

caseymoz

(5,763 posts)
22. I'm skeptical. False modesty?
Fri Mar 29, 2013, 04:52 PM
Mar 2013

That having been said, people, that is males or females all respond differently to anatomy exposure. Whether they're modest or exhibitionists, the important thing is to respect their wishes, either way.

tblue

(16,350 posts)
23. Maybe if more of them got a taste of it, they'd stop?
Fri Mar 29, 2013, 04:55 PM
Mar 2013

Just a taste. Just enough to try that shoe on for a change.

nomorenomore08

(13,324 posts)
30. I doubt he actually "hates" it, as others have noted on this thread.
Fri Mar 29, 2013, 06:21 PM
Mar 2013

But this focus on certain body parts - female or male - is crass and excessive no matter what.

SoCalDem

(103,856 posts)
31. The era the show portrays was ALL about sexuality
Fri Mar 29, 2013, 06:26 PM
Mar 2013

Everyone "flaunted" what they had. The fabrics of that era were rather flimsy, and tight pants were the norm for men..Clever tailoring could alleviate the "problem" for him, but it is a show that tried to be true to the era ..

Underwear does not solve the tight pants issue

There will be a lot more people paying a lot closer attention when the season starts

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