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Cooley Hurd

(26,877 posts)
1. Ol' LBJ was all about fucking with people's heads...
Sat Mar 30, 2013, 09:33 PM
Mar 2013

...whether it be legislatively:



...or just generally.

 

Leslie Valley

(310 posts)
3. Especially that really neat Gulf of Tonkin Resolution that he got rammed through
Sat Mar 30, 2013, 10:28 PM
Mar 2013

But having super Democratic majorities in both houses of Congress might have helped.

And he loved his dogs too, so there's that.

Honeycombe8

(37,648 posts)
5. I think I read his family convinced him to quit doing that "trick" with his dogs.
Sat Mar 30, 2013, 11:04 PM
Mar 2013

He really did love dogs. Always had his dogs around, and he had quite a few dogs. His daughter tells a sweet story how she brought home a mutt she rescued, and her parents allowed her to keep it. Before long, it became LBJ's constant companion. They had an unusual bonding. Yuki was with LBJ all the time, including on Air Force Once, when LBJ stepped down from the Presidency.

Yuki went with LBJ when he retired to his ranch, and outlived the President. Then LBJ's daughter, Luci, took Yuki back to live with her, until he died.

LBJ adored Yuki. Here they are howling together.

 

HiPointDem

(20,729 posts)
14. unlike bush and his photo-op pets.
Sun Mar 31, 2013, 07:29 AM
Mar 2013

i have mixed feelings about johnson, but he comes across as a 'real' personality as opposed to a manufactured one -- my feeling about every president starting with reagan is that what we see is largely their manufactured persona.

Honeycombe8

(37,648 posts)
15. That's exactly how I feel. Mixed feelings about Johnson, but at least we saw the real man.
Sun Mar 31, 2013, 09:36 AM
Mar 2013

I sort of understand the brusque, unethical politician that he was, since I'm from Louisiana (Huey Long and all). Reagan forward, we saw the image that was meant for us to see.

I think we knew Reagan, though, since he had been in the limelight for years.

NBachers

(17,105 posts)
4. I've heard literally, too. I'd rather not believe that but it leaves a little mental asterisk for me
Sat Mar 30, 2013, 10:52 PM
Mar 2013

I also believe he'd have won in '68, too, if he hadn't been chased out of office. How different things would've been if Nixon hadn't been elected.

 

Spider Jerusalem

(21,786 posts)
6. That "sense of humour" is consistent...
Sat Mar 30, 2013, 11:16 PM
Mar 2013

and fits well with the image of LBJ I've gleaned from people who knew him and worked with him (and from the Robert Caro biography), which is of a bullying narcissistic asshole. (Practical jokes that involve scaring the shit out of people? not really that funny.)

brush

(53,764 posts)
7. Except for Vietnam, got more good social programs passed than any president since FDR
Sat Mar 30, 2013, 11:56 PM
Mar 2013

Last edited Sun Mar 31, 2013, 12:33 AM - Edit history (1)

I've read the Caro biographies also. There's more than just one volume, btw. Johnson got very bad advice from McNamara and his generals on Vietnam but he got all that civil rights and Great Society legislation passed that really improved the quality of life thousands of people then and now. And his seating of the Mississippi Freedom Democratic Party (lead by the great civil rights activist Fannie Lou Hamer) at the 1964 Democratic National Convention lead to the downfall of the Dixiecrats. They fled the party and became Repugs, which is why that party has that racist strain in it to this day.

So LBJ did a lot of good things domestically, foreign policy, not so much.

 

Spider Jerusalem

(21,786 posts)
8. Multiple volumes, one biography
Sun Mar 31, 2013, 12:01 AM
Mar 2013

Martin Gilbert's biography of Churchill runs to eight volumes; it's still a single biography.

And I don't dispute that LBJ was in some ways an oldschool New Deal Democrat, but he's also proof that one needn't be a good or admirable person to do good things.

pamela

(3,469 posts)
11. Wow, thanks.
Sun Mar 31, 2013, 01:59 AM
Mar 2013

I'm always a bit taken aback when someone compliments my photos 'cause I'm strictly a quick point and shoot photographer. I envy the good photographers with the patience to master a good camera.

Thanks again! My next blog post is going to be about a VERY cool place a nice DUer suggested I visit. Stop back in a few days when I finally post it and check it out. No one reads my blog except my parents and a few friends so it's nice to have new visitors.

onethatcares

(16,166 posts)
12. well, just to let you know
Sun Mar 31, 2013, 07:24 AM
Mar 2013

I liked the photographs as well.

I do believe he was the last president to ever be schooled in such a building. Things like that make your roots run deep.

pamela

(3,469 posts)
16. Thank you!
Sun Mar 31, 2013, 10:26 AM
Mar 2013

I agree about how his roots shaped him. Lady Bird, too. I'm down here at the beginning of wildflower season so I have great appreciation for Lady Bird and her beautification efforts right now.

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