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Fri Apr 5, 2013, 02:14 PM

Are there any polls out there in North Carolina about how the people feel about the religious/

corporate take over of their state?

I was in North Carolina about 5 years and was impressed about how integrated it was. I went to 2 malls and saw a lot of kids of different races hanging together. The people were very nice and I had good feelings about North Carolina. But now hearing the stuff coming out of their legislature and Governor I wonder if the people who live there are starting to get angry or are they ok with this takeover of their rights.

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Reply Are there any polls out there in North Carolina about how the people feel about the religious/ (Original post)
kimbutgar Apr 2013 OP
G_j Apr 2013 #1
Warpy Apr 2013 #2
atreides1 Apr 2013 #3
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Response to kimbutgar (Original post)

Fri Apr 5, 2013, 02:21 PM

1. yes!

it is very scary!

Here’s a challenge for you. Try to explain what is happening in North Carolina these days to someone who doesn’t follow politics or government and limit yourself to a minute or even two.

You can’t do it. The damage being inflicted on the state by this radical and reactionary General Assembly is too vast and is happening too quickly to even catalogue, much less explain.

Lawmakers, who have only been in session a little over two months, have already refused to expand Medicaid under the Affordable Care Act, denying health care to 500,000 low-income adults even though the federal government would pick up the full cost of the expansion for three years and 90 percent of the cost after that.

The purely ideological decision on Medicaid is at least still in the news occasionally as some states with Republican governors like New Jersey and Arizona have managed to put their partisanship aside and do what is best for the people they represent.

The majority in control of our General Assembly has also voted to slash unemployment benefits for laid off workers and deny emergency federal benefits for 170,000 people who lost their jobs through no fault of their own.

The unemployment bill passed the first few weeks of the session but is rarely mentioned any more on Jones Street. Governor Pat McCrory sheepishly signed the attack on workers and the Medicaid expansion refusal in private ceremonies away from reporters who might ask pesky questions.

He also signed legislation behind closed doors to reduce the state Earned Income Tax Credit that helps low-wage workers. The bill also allows the EITC to expire at the end of the year.

That seems like old news now too with all the talk in Raleigh about “tax reform,” the current euphemism for the Robin Hood in reverse brand of class warfare now being pursued by Senate leaders and the right-wing think tanks bankrolled by the State Budget Director.

Lawmakers have quickly moved from the war on the poor to the war on environment as the Senate passed legislation to speed up permitting for dangerous fracking operations and the House is considering repealing the state’s modest renewable energy standard that some environmentalists believe is far too weak.

All bets are off on public education too. There are bills to divert public school money to home schoolers and turn teachers into glorified temps in the classroom. Senate leaders are trying to remove what’s left of accountability for charter schools by setting up a parallel and likely unconstitutional governance system to oversee them. A sweeping voucher scheme is coming soon.

Exhausted yet? There’s more. Predatory payday lending has surfaced again backed by faux research by the think tanks on Right Wing Avenue. And the consumer finance industry is back pushing for more exorbitant interest rates to charge people when they most vulnerable.

The state’s urban areas are on the tea party target list too. Legislative leaders are changing local election systems, redrawing local school board districts, reneging on signed contracts, and taking over water supplies and airports from cities.

Virtually every day, there’s another bill in committee that shoves North Carolina backwards and replaces the outrage of the day before in the headlines, from forcing married couples to wait two years for a divorce to repealing the Racial Justice Act to allowing loaded handguns in bars and restaurants.

That’s nowhere near a complete list and doesn’t take into account the offensive choices being made by Governor McCrory, who House and Senate leaders continue to treat as their junior partner in their tea party crusade.


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Response to kimbutgar (Original post)

Fri Apr 5, 2013, 02:24 PM

2. The cities are largely fine

but the state is mostly rural and that's where all the wingnuts come from. After all, they kept Jesse Helms in office for many years simply because he was great at pissing off the Yankees.

I've been reading the comments on the stories about opening the door to an official religion in the Charlotte Observer and the comments have been mostly negative about this. Most people don't want the kind of sectarianism and eventual violence this sort of thing would inevitably produce.

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Response to Warpy (Reply #2)

Fri Apr 5, 2013, 02:56 PM

3. But in truth

It really doesn't matter what most of the people think, does it? What matters is if the nut bags can actually push this nonsense through and their man McCrory signs it into law!

So, what's next for NC...if they really believe that the US Constitution doesn't apply to states, it won't be long before bringing back slavery, taking away a woman's right to vote, and no more mixed race marriages...

Sorry, but it was those rural people that elected this bunch of backward, knuckle dragging, flat earthers...and I'm going to guess they don't have a problem with what's being done.

As for the cities, it's pretty evident they don't have enough political clout to do anything to stop this!

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Response to atreides1 (Reply #3)

Fri Apr 5, 2013, 03:57 PM

4. It doesn't matter if they ram it through

because the state supreme court will throw it out within weeks.

Dixie has always regretted losing the Articles of Confederation and has always chafed under the Constitution that succeeded it. The Civil War was fought over this as much as it was over slavery.

Those old boys (and a few old girls) will always be with us in the south, I'm afraid, raised on some fantasy that never was of independent states making their own rules while a big army controlled by Washington protected them, free from interference by any other state. The feeling of "hunh, can't push me around!" is strong down there, both at the personal and at the state levels.

They'll keep getting slapped down when they feel like they can get away with this crap.

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