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jmowreader

(50,528 posts)
5. Compared to people like Reagan, the Bushes and Newt, Nixon was a saint
Mon Feb 6, 2012, 04:03 AM
Feb 2012

Richard Nixon was as evil as the day is long, which goes to show you how fucked this country actually is: as bad as he was, we've got Republicans now who are far worse.

Ebadlun

(336 posts)
11. Any politician can only stray so far from the centre
Mon Feb 6, 2012, 08:32 PM
Feb 2012

I doubt Nixon gave that much of a shit about the environment or infrastructure, but there was general bi-partisan consensus that they were good things, so their was nothing to be gained by trashing them.

jmowreader

(50,528 posts)
18. He probably DID care about infrastructure
Tue Feb 7, 2012, 01:19 AM
Feb 2012

Nixon knew, as all politicians did back then, that infrastructure projects created jobs, jobs create happy voters and happy voters tend to keep re-electing incumbents.

Now that we have teabaggers running the show in the GOP, the idea is that we DON'T spend on infrastructure. We don't spend the money to fix the bridge, the bridge falls in killing a bunch of people in the process, and the GOP blames the Democrats.

My favorite teabaggers are the ones in Central Washington. I print the biggest paper in Central Washington, and from it I have learned that the middle of the state is full of teabaggers who believe the government never has done anything good for the people. Now, understand, Central Washington is a desert, but thanks to the Bonneville Power Administration, a government-run corporation, it's possible to farm there. If it wasn't for the federal government's cheap irrigation and cheap electricity the only things that would be living in Central Washington are jackrabbits and coyotes, but the feds are evil and useless.

WCGreen

(45,558 posts)
14. Nixon would be considered a liberal democrat these days...
Mon Feb 6, 2012, 08:37 PM
Feb 2012

Wage and price freezes, the Earned Income Credit, expansion of voters rights, sympathetic to Unions, the EPA....

 

MrSlayer

(22,143 posts)
3. They're so stupid they're on the verge of doing just that.
Mon Feb 6, 2012, 02:10 AM
Feb 2012

I think it's the people that are stupid. The ones who convinced them that these things are ok are pretty smart.

 

cbrer

(1,831 posts)
6. More Quotes
Mon Feb 6, 2012, 04:28 AM
Feb 2012

Though force can protect in emergency, only justice, fairness, consideration and cooperation can finally lead men to the dawn of eternal peace.

I hate war as only a soldier who has lived it can,only as one who has seen its brutality, its futility, its stupidity.

Every gun that is made, every warship launched, every rocket fired, signifies in the final sense a theft from those who hunger and are not fed, those who are cold and are not clothed.

If the United Nations once admits that international disputes can be settled by using force, then we will have destroyed the foundation of the organization and our best hope of establishing a world order.

All by Dwight David Eisenhower. America's second to the last 5 star General.

SomethingFishy

(4,876 posts)
9. "Every gun that is made, every warship launched, every rocket fired,
Mon Feb 6, 2012, 08:19 PM
Feb 2012

signifies in the final sense a theft from those who hunger and are not fed, those who are cold and are not clothed."

Roger Waters is using that quote during "The Wall Live" shows. It's projected on the Wall during the song "Bring THe Boys Back Home".

It's an amazing moment in an amazing show...

 

cbrer

(1,831 posts)
16. He also warned us
Mon Feb 6, 2012, 11:58 PM
Feb 2012

About the dangers of the "Military-Industrial" complex, during his exit speech. The video is available here:



A very insightful man. Who has definitely been there, and done that.

DianaForRussFeingold

(2,552 posts)
7. K&R I found more of the original quote..
Mon Feb 6, 2012, 08:15 PM
Feb 2012
"Should any political party attempt to abolish social security, unemployment insurance, and eliminate labor laws and farm programs, you would not hear of that party again in our political history.
There is a tiny splinter group, of course, that believes that you can do these things. Among them are a few Texas oil millionaires, and an occasional politician or businessman from other areas. Their number is negligible and they are stupid." ─President Dwight D. Eisenhower

Hmmm,,, He sounds just like one of those "darned socialists" that the GOP always whines about.
" a few Texas Oil Millionaires"
I wonder who he meant by that...?!


JI7

(89,239 posts)
8. i always like to think about what certain people no longer with us would say about
Mon Feb 6, 2012, 08:18 PM
Feb 2012

what is going on today. Ike is one of those i always wonder about, especially when thnking of today's republican party.

 

Zalatix

(8,994 posts)
10. He's right. This isn't the Republican party anymore
Mon Feb 6, 2012, 08:27 PM
Feb 2012

It's the Plutocrat party.

After all, the Democrat party is NOT what it was pre-1964.
Honestly, Democrats died in 1865. What we have now is the New Democrat, or Enlightened Democrat Party.

 

Zalatix

(8,994 posts)
13. Sigh... same thing. The Democratic Party.
Mon Feb 6, 2012, 08:36 PM
Feb 2012

It is nothing like what it was before 1964... much less back in 1865.

You can argue, in fact, that the Dems and Repubs switched souls on a number of issues, starting with race.

DianaForRussFeingold

(2,552 posts)
15. I don't agree, That really is insensitive...
Mon Feb 6, 2012, 11:36 PM
Feb 2012

"The term has been used in negative or hostile fashion by conservative commentators and members of the Republican Party" http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Democrat_Party_%28phrase%29

Sad, but I somewhat agree with the other issues you mentioned...!

 

mick063

(2,424 posts)
17. I was watching a Charlie Rose interview on TV
Tue Feb 7, 2012, 01:05 AM
Feb 2012


I can't recall the "old school" journalist's name he was interviewing, but the guy was a former presidential press secretary, from Texas, and a Republican. Any help out there on the name? Any one else see it?

Regardless, I recall him saying that "Barry Goldwater would never support the agenda of the modern Republican Party". Back in the 60's, Goldwater lost his presidential bid because he was considered much too conservative for his time.
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