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xchrom

(108,903 posts)
Thu May 2, 2013, 07:10 AM May 2013

A 17th-Century Russian Community Living in 21st-Century Alaska

http://www.theatlantic.com/national/archive/2013/05/a-17th-century-russian-community-living-in-21st-century-alaska/275440/


Father Nikolai says that candles represent a little sacrifice. They cost the members of the congregation a dollar, which goes to the upkeep of the church. (Wendi Jonassen and Ryan Loughlin

On a Sunday afternoon, in the middle of a cold winter, members of Father Nikolai's congregation and family gather in his living room for fish pie, salted salmon, and shots of Jose Cuervo 1800. But before sitting down to eat they stand up as a group to face an icon corner adorned with gold laden paintings of patron saints, candles, and old Russian jewelry. They pray in unison, singing an ancient Slavonic chant, before falling silent and crossing themselves, bowing twelve times.

The Yakunin clan was much smaller in 1968 when they started building a Russian Orthodox village called Nikolaevsk in an isolated corner of Alaska's Kenai Peninsula. Members of the Old Believers--a Russian Orthodox sect that left the church in 1666, in the face of state-issued church reforms--traveled more than 20,000 miles over five centuries in the search for the perfect place to protect their traditions from outside influences.

The women wear teal, pink, red, and purple satin dresses, all made with the same basic design that covers their bodies down to their ankles. Married women cover their hair with scarves that match their colorful gowns. Father Nikolai has a full red beard that reaches the top of his round belly and his hair is in a ponytail that runs down his back over a traditional Russian shirt.

A thick-cheeked baby dozes off in a rocker next to Father Nikolai's son, Vasily Yakunin, who most people think will become the next priest in the community. Nikolaevsk instated their first priest in 1983 after centuries of living without clergy, which created a rift that divides the community to this day.
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A 17th-Century Russian Community Living in 21st-Century Alaska (Original Post) xchrom May 2013 OP
k/r marmar May 2013 #1
K&R treestar May 2013 #2
Very interesting read. Thanks for posting. nt DURHAM D May 2013 #3
This is a wonderful follow-up to the recent article iemitsu May 2013 #4
Is there some practical reason for women covering their hair? FarCenter May 2013 #5
Liturgically-required feminine modesty - same reason some Islamic women wear a hijab. baldguy May 2013 #6
Modesty vis-a-vis men or other women? FarCenter May 2013 #8
I have no clue about the psychology. baldguy May 2013 #10
The reply above Wednesdays May 2013 #11
Really interesting read. lapislzi May 2013 #7
Old Believers originated a little before Peter's time RZM May 2013 #12
Thank you. lapislzi May 2013 #13
Not really much different from the Amish SoCalDem May 2013 #9
Lots of Russian Orthodox in Alaska Separation May 2013 #14
 

FarCenter

(19,429 posts)
5. Is there some practical reason for women covering their hair?
Thu May 2, 2013, 09:02 AM
May 2013
Married women cover their hair with scarves that match their colorful gowns.

In the '50s all the women in a mainstream Protestant church wore hats in church.

Quite a few conservative religious sects still do.

Did this have some historical practical value, such as helping to keep down infestations of lice and other vermin?
 

FarCenter

(19,429 posts)
8. Modesty vis-a-vis men or other women?
Thu May 2, 2013, 09:18 AM
May 2013

What is the psychological principle behind the liturgical requirement?

Hair is a pretty minor factor in female attractiveness to men. They are focused on other things.

On the other hand, it does seem that women spend a lot of time on hair because of other women. Maybe hair coverings reduce competition between women?

 

baldguy

(36,649 posts)
10. I have no clue about the psychology.
Thu May 2, 2013, 10:04 AM
May 2013

The psychological make up of illiterate prehistoric Middle Eastern goat herders has very little in common with humans in 21st century post-industrial Western society.

It's really just a traditional convention based on ancient Hebrew customs, which were written down in the Bible in I Corinthians (Paul's First Letter to the Corinthians). Paul was messed up about a lot of things - the treatment of women being a big one - and people thought he was a little old-fashioned in the First Century AD.

I Corinthians 11 starts out with:

3 But I would have you know, that the head of every man is Christ; and the head of the woman is the man; and the head of Christ is God.
4 Every man praying or prophesying, having his head covered, dishonoureth his head.
5 But every woman that prayeth or prophesieth with her head uncovered dishonoureth her head: for that is even all one as if she were shaven.
6 For if the woman be not covered, let her also be shorn: but if it be a shame for a woman to be shorn or shaven, let her be covered.


And it gets worse from there. This is what forced my sainted Irish grandmother to wear a headscarf everywhere, even after Vatican II said it was OK to go without it.

Wednesdays

(17,312 posts)
11. The reply above
Thu May 2, 2013, 10:10 AM
May 2013

The reply above shows the scripture about requiring women to cover their heads...

However, a high school friend pointed out (and he was a fundie, at that) there's another scripture that says God provided women with long hair "as a cover." So, women are exempt from having to cover their heads, after all.

Edit: maybe that was the rationale behind the Vatican II change as well?

lapislzi

(5,762 posts)
7. Really interesting read.
Thu May 2, 2013, 09:17 AM
May 2013

IIRC, Peter the Great was the one who spearheaded church reforms in the 17th century. These guys still have a problem with him.

I admire their tenacity, tragic in its intractability.

 

RZM

(8,556 posts)
12. Old Believers originated a little before Peter's time
Thu May 2, 2013, 10:49 AM
May 2013

In the 1660s (Peter was born in 1672). They were a negative reaction to liturgical reforms intended to bring Russian Orthodox practices in line with the rest of the Orthodox world. A big one was the number of fingers you use to sign the cross. They were known to commit mass suicides rather than adopt the new practices.

Peter also reformed the church, but his changes were mainly administrative and part of his quest to enhance the power of the state. Peter essentially put the state in charge of the church by abolishing the office of Patriarch (basically the Russian Pope) and replacing it with a government-appointed body (the synod). This was in the 1720s.

lapislzi

(5,762 posts)
13. Thank you.
Thu May 2, 2013, 10:55 AM
May 2013

If I had known that, I'd forgotten it. I had a minor minor in Russian history in college, back when this was actually going on

Peter was a smart dude. To finance his ambitious building and westernization projects, he would have needed to divert some resources from the coffers of the church. That would be my guess, based on...absolutely nothing save a working knowledge of PTG. It was a fascinating period. Equally fascinating (and much less well-known) was his daughter, the first Empress Elizabeth. She was a force of nature.

SoCalDem

(103,856 posts)
9. Not really much different from the Amish
Thu May 2, 2013, 09:21 AM
May 2013

when you consider that they have chosen to stay apart, create no societal havoc with their neighbors, and seem satisfied with their lot.

Live and let live..

Someday, they may change, but for now (and for a very long time) they seem content enough

Separation

(1,975 posts)
14. Lots of Russian Orthodox in Alaska
Thu May 2, 2013, 11:43 AM
May 2013

In Kodiak, one of the main landmarks is the Orthodox Church. Lots of Mormans in Homer, Alaska atracts em all.

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