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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsHoward Dean: Republicans "doing everything they can to make sure Congress goes Democratic in 2014"
Video: http://www.nbcnews.com/id/45755883/ns/msnbc-the_last_word/vp/51755387#51755387
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(O'Donnell) howard dean, there you have a republican ad, attacking the president. apparently a co production of the republican party and abc news.
(Dean) you know, it's very interesting. these guys are probably around 23% in the polls. i am shocked that the vaunted republican party message machine is as incompetent as this. if you're 23% of the polls, you do not get advanced by running negative ads about someone else. basic politics. all they're doing is driving their own negatives down, no credibility. clobbered in the last election. i think they're doing everything they can to make sure congress goes democratic in 2014. it's great.
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(Dean) my problem, i'm very direct about what i feel. i'm likely to call the guy an ignore aimous which is true, but presidential candidates should want say that. but that's true. that's one of the reasons people don't respect the press very much. it's such an inside the beltway game. it really is true. i think you put your finger on it. they care more about their little two seconds in the national television, and so they ask these silly questions. and then, of course, if -- you know, if you ask a question as a reporter and the republicans use it in their ad, you probably haven't acquitted yourself very well.
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(Dean) well, mccain has been able to stand up for what he believes. i may not agree but you've got to give him credit for standing up what he thinks is right. which a lot of people on both parties, but particularly in the republican party, didn't do. this is a bankrupt strategy, lawrence. they're using the same playbook they used last time and they got clobbereded. that is, let's not give the president any victories. the problem is -- i don't understand how they can misread this so badly. they got absolutely clobber in the election when the biggest vote against them and right back to the same old strategy. this doesn't help people like cantor trying to rebrand the republican party. makes them look like the same old horrible gas bags they were in the first two years.
(O'Donnell) but a lot of them, anyway, now do seem to be trying to find a way to get there on immigration. and get to a bill-signing with the president.
(Dean) i'm skeptical. look at all of the back wash they're getting from the tea party and the crack pots on the talk radio and all that stuff. i don't know that this is going to pass. i think those -- those four republicans in the gang of eight could get run over. look at rubio tap-dancing his way out of what he said. i mean, i -- i think this party really is in a civil war. the leadership doesn't know how to manage it. and the people who are on the right who are being left out of the winning combination that is trying to be built are basically willing to take down the party with them. and they may succeed.
He said Republicans got "clobbered" with the biggest vote against them since LBJ.
Congressional GOP beginning to notice their own incompetence
http://www.democraticunderground.com/10022787597
ProSense
(116,464 posts)gateley
(62,683 posts)What is our problem?!?!?!
winter is coming
(11,785 posts)Like it or not, a lot of people only show up for November elections. I've certainly gotten plenty of blank looks during the spring when I mention I've just been to the polls for some local election/primary/runoff.
gateley
(62,683 posts)to make SURE Markey got the nod.
2010 wasn't a wowzer, by the way.
davidn3600
(6,342 posts)The president's party struggles in mid-terms is the typical political pattern. There have only been a handful of exceptions in the past century.
It's part psychological. It's easier to motivate voters when you are the opposition. The incumbent party is sort of forced on defense having to explain everything it does. That's why it will be a very difficult battle to pick up 15 House seats in a gerrymandered landscape. You will need some Republican voters to flip, or its just not going to happen.
gateley
(62,683 posts)1StrongBlackMan
(31,849 posts)It appears that you're doing everything you can to make sure it doesn't.
Remember this?
http://www.buzzfeed.com/evanmcsan/howard-dean-obama-might-drive-me-out-of-the-democratic-party
Cha
(297,154 posts)I wish he wouldn't blurt out stuff like that because it's just red meat for you know who.. that accomplishes nothing.
1StrongBlackMan
(31,849 posts)Red meat for the gop and ... well ... some of our friends.
freshwest
(53,661 posts)1StrongBlackMan
(31,849 posts)Cha
(297,154 posts)thanks ProSense
DallasNE
(7,402 posts)The day after Karl accused Obama of being in over his head as President with his "juice" comment others jumped on the bandwagon declaring that Obama was now a lame duck President only 100 days into his 2nd term.
This is what I said immediately after the comment and before I had access to the full comment. Karl still hasn't said what he meant by that comment.
http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1002&pid=2777702
Now the RNC is using Karl in a political ad, further damaging ABC by making Karl part of the political debate. Oddly, the RNC also chooses to use a photo of Obama consoling a grieving Sandy Hook mom and the question is why.
Frankly, the filibuster of the background check expansion bill is starting to look like a Waterloo for the obstructionist Republicans.
eridani
(51,907 posts)Relying on your opponents to be stupid is not really a plan for success.
ProSense
(116,464 posts)"The exact opposite can be expected if chained CPI goes through. Relying on your opponents to be stupid is not really a plan for success."
...aren't going to touch Obama's budget. That would be "stupid" being even more stupid. Not only don't they want to own such a vote, but they're also engaged in some serious infighting.
"House Republicans couldn't pass a bill to dial 911 if John Boehner were on fire."
http://www.democraticunderground.com/10022787597
bahrbearian
(13,466 posts)Generic Brad
(14,274 posts)He needs to recant the chained CPI crap and work to strengthen Social Security. If he chooses not to do that, he hurts both the country and his party.
I am baffled by his strategy of handing this issue to Republicans and keeping them something they can be competitive with.