I Am Beginning To Think That We Are A Sick Unredeemable Nation.

[TheMastersNemesis]

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The fact that some bigoted hateful racist asshole can tell 26 families to go to hell and it not tarred and feathered on the spot and the fact that the new NRA president can just about call for war and nothing happens really makes it hard to have faith that things will turn out.

ADDENDUM - It is hard not to be completely cynical at this point. when you sit back and survey the entire political and cultural landscape of this country everything looks like chaos. Congress took only one vote on the FAA sequestration then went home for ten days. We are paying for a Congress that is NOT even part time right now. I will bet they have not met for a month in the last 5. Of course, that may be a blessing. That is because whatever they do will end up in complete disaster.

[flamingdem]

1. But something is happening

and there is concrete evidence for this in the poll ratings for Kelly Ayyote and Jeff Flake.

In fact I have hope that this will serve to marginalize at least some Repukes in 2014.

I can dream can't I?

[Bannakaffalatta]

2. Sick, yes

But you're not the only one. Most nations are sick right now: there is an epidemic of capitalitis, complicated by dysfunctional religiosity and post-industrialism.

The US has blundered and hissy-fitted itself into a particularly insoluble political dilemma. Maybe a revolution would break the deadlock, or maybe it's time to carve North America into eight separate functional units. Or maybe the coming climate disaster will solve the problem for us.

[defacto7]

9. Welcome to DU

A reasonable comment.

[MADem]

3. Free speech is an ugly thing sometimes.

It's beautiful when David Letterman calls out the senators who have voted against background checks, and posts their pictures. Tonight, it's Max Baucus who is the "Stooge of the Night!"

I like free speech. Smart people use it, too...

[JimDandy]

4. I Am Beginning To Think That NRA Members Are Sick, Unredeemable People.

Sorry, but yours uses too broad of a brush.

There's a lot to recommend about the USA, but I can understand how you might feel like that for maybe a second, after this NRA Convention.

[cali]

5. I think people who advocate mob violence toward anyone

are sick and possibly irredeemable.

It's called free speech. and yes, people can say hateful things like that they believe people should be tarred and feathered for saying hateful things.

[virgogal]

6. Lighten up,the glass is half full.

[cynatnite]

7. Not by a long shot when you see stuff like this...

http://www.democraticunderground.com/10022795915

[defacto7]

10. That's the good side!

[Triana]

8. We are a sick unredeemable world.

I tell my mother she's fortunate that she won't be here to see the worst of what's coming because humans are too stupid to save themselves.

Call me a pessimist. Call me a cynic. Call me whatever but Earth is becoming a man-made Hell very quickly.

[defacto7]

11. That's the bad side!

[Bannakaffalatta]

19. and i tell my kids

they're up the proverbial creek, 'coz i'm the last one who knows how to paddle. Sometimes i imagine us oldsters taking the whole shebang with us...
but, really, i'm quite sure there will be survivors and they will start again - hopefully, in a different direction.

PS Defacto7 - hey-a

[defacto7]

12. I definitly agree with th OP...

I also agree with post #7 and #8. It is bad and I believe it will get worse... but hope is not lost. Humans may destroy themselves or they may evolve. I think we are balancing on a very loose rope right now and it really is a turning point in human history. It will be a fight if civility and the best of humanity is to be our legacy... It will be easy and a quick end if we keep the status quo.

But the earth will win over us in the end..

[We People]

13. The Bad are in the minority; unfortunately, there are no checks on their greedy power

I really do believe the majority of humanity is redeemable, but they're being overtaken by those with unbridled greed. And overtaken faster (by design, of course) than they can comprehend or do much of anything about it.

[defacto7]

15. Ha.. I agree with you too...

It seems that's the nature of greed. It's like primal survival and the need to beat the competition for food, mating whatever. The "few", by design of nature are the aggressors, and aggressive wins over complacence. I suppose if the "majority" are to survive and overcome greed, then they have to make sure their passive nature is not complacency or that it becomes apathetic.

[freshwest]

14. IDK. The only real negativity I see is on the net and news. The people where I live are unfailingly

kind and generous, forward looking and tolerant.

They have struggles but they don't sink down into a pit of bitterness and despair. And I have seen many die way before their time in my life, people that I would give anything to just see the love in their eyes, for only one more moment, to hear their voice. It cannot be.

I know that it sounds nuts, but I've found in my later years that people give you back the same energy that you give to them. Complete strangers even.

And I am not looking as I once did, my step is no longer the lope that I enjoyed that showed my pleasure with life. I have little money and possibly less of the pleasures that many take for granted. And my friends and family are no different.

I've found that all or nothing, always and never, are not really true in our infinite existance. Some years back I began to talk with people around the world. Their lives were not without pain or loss. But they showed me their lives, and even when we discuss climate change and destruction, is not all there is. Not even in this country.

I remember being glad to see that there were millions of acres of land that was not polluted, not turned over to commerical use, suburbia, concrete, auto exhaust. And there are many beautiful places in the Americas as well. But we don't see that much, our focus is too narrow. Yet they are there, co-existing with our visions of misery.

I am deeply concerned at what I see as the finer or delicate and loving things in life being swept away, but deliberately choose to not associate with loud, rude or aggressive persons. They are a tiny minority where I live, and have settled into what I only can describe as lower or earthly vibration, all things are heavy and dark with them. That's not the majority of people, not even the median.

I also know we are each made for our time, the resonance or songs that we sing like birds calling out to each other in the trees, wanting to hear the echo of memory. There is a sense of bereavement when one's family or friends or songs that we once sang with them disappear from our mileau. Even if it sounds gloomly, it is inevitable, we are made for only a season.

Charles Sanders Pierce said:

'If man were immortal he could be perfectly sure of seeing the day when every thing in which he had trusted should betray his trust, and, in short, of coming eventually to hopeless misery. He would break down, at last, as every good fortune, as every dynasty, as every civilization does. In place of this we have death.'

Another person said:

Put that way, death can be seen as a blessing. A way to hold on to some of your ideals and beliefs, to not get completely embittered by life.

All things pass, pain and evil, pleasure and great. That's all I have to say, but probably have said too much.

[HiPointDem]

17. Charles Sanders Peirce = married a close Bush relation.

[babylonsister]

16. Name names, we should give them their own 'glory'. nt

'g

[dreamnightwind]

18. I agree

It's the sentiment that the Occupy movement came from, that the system we live under is incapable of and impervious to reform through the provided mechanisms. All we can do is wait for the powers that be to want to change it, then it will happen. They don't care how many people believe what, if it's in the interest of the powerful, it will happen, if not it won't.

I guess it's up to us to somehow find a way to make it in their interest to reform, or to just pull the rug out from under them entirely.

[galileoreloaded]

20. cast off your chains..

its soooo easy.

[Blue_Tires]

21. Personally, if I believed anything was unredeemable, I wouldn't be a leftist...

[TheMastersNemesis]

22. I Am Not There Yet, But I Wonder. My Views Would Be Considered Communist Even Though ----

I am a Democratic Socialist.