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Prop 8 Decision Now Posted (Link) (Original Post) MineralMan Feb 2012 OP
Kicked & recommended. Looks like the site is crashing from demand? WheelWalker Feb 2012 #1
I'm sure the PDF will be hosted on just about every MineralMan Feb 2012 #2
Wow, am just reading it now and... Spazito Feb 2012 #3
That's what I meant. Terrific ruling and written in a way that MineralMan Feb 2012 #4

MineralMan

(146,281 posts)
2. I'm sure the PDF will be hosted on just about every
Tue Feb 7, 2012, 02:22 PM
Feb 2012

LGBT site very quickly. However, if you keep trying that link, you'll eventually get through. I did. It's a great ruling, and very well-written, besides. I just finished reading it through. Now, I'll study it some more.

Spazito

(50,232 posts)
3. Wow, am just reading it now and...
Tue Feb 7, 2012, 02:33 PM
Feb 2012

this is stated right at the start:
"...all parties agree that Proposition 8 had one effect only. It stripped same-sex couples of the ability they previously possessed to obtain from the State, or any other authorized party, an important right --- the right to obtain and use the designation of 'marriage' to describe their relationships. Nothing more, nothing less. Proposition 8 therefore could not have been enacted to advance California's interests in childrearing or responsible procreation, for it had no effect on the rights of same-sex couples to raise children or on the procreative practices of other couples. Nor did Proposition 8 have any effect on religious freedom or on parents' rights to control their children's education; it could not have been enacted to safeguard these liberties.

All that Proposition 8 accomplished was to take away from same-sex couples the right to be granted marriage licenses and thus legally to use the designation of 'marriage' which symbolizes state legitimization and societal recognition of their committed relationships. Proposition 8 serves no purpose, and has no effect, other than to lessen the status and human dignity of gays and lesbians in California, and to officially reclassify their relationships and families as inferior to those of opposite-sex couples. The Constitution simply does not allow for "laws of this sort". Romer v Evans, 517 U.S. 620,633 (1996)."

WOW! I need to repeat this part:

"Proposition 8 serves no purpose, and has no effect, other than to lessen the status and human dignity of gays and lesbians in California, and to officially reclassify their relationships and families as inferior to those of opposite-sex couples. The Constitution simply does not allow for "laws of this sort". "

Says it all!

MineralMan

(146,281 posts)
4. That's what I meant. Terrific ruling and written in a way that
Tue Feb 7, 2012, 02:39 PM
Feb 2012

makes it clear to non-legal minds. Excellent!

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