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babylonsister

(171,031 posts)
Sun May 5, 2013, 09:28 AM May 2013

NYT: The House Prefers Chaos to Order

http://www.nytimes.com/2013/05/05/opinion/sunday/the-house-prefers-chaos-to-order.html?_r=0

The House Prefers Chaos to Order
By THE EDITORIAL BOARD
Published: May 4, 2013


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A few days ago, when Harry Reid, the Senate majority leader, tried to appoint members of a conference committee, Republicans refused to allow it, saying it would cause “complications for the House.” As Senator Jeff Sessions, the leading Republican on the Budget Committee, explained it, “We haven’t been able to have any understanding on how this conference might work.”

In fact, Republicans know exactly how it would work: they would have to compromise.
The Senate would have to agree to some of the House’s spending cuts, and the House would have to agree to some of the Senate’s spending increases and the tax increases on the rich to pay for them. As the country has learned in recent years, House Republicans are incapable of compromise on those issues.

Being intransigent in a formal budget conference, however, would put Republicans in a bind. The public would be able to see that Democrats were offering billions in spending cuts while Republicans were offering nothing. And if a conference did not produce an agreement in 20 days, members could offer “motions to instruct” the committee that required debate and a vote, which the speaker could not use his usual powers to stop. That, too, could cause embarrassment for the Republican leadership, as Democrats and Tea Party members offered a series of motions that would demonstrate how incoherent the Republican agenda truly was.

House leaders are stalling by insisting on a “preconference,” which Patty Murray, the Senate budget chairwoman, has resisted. Clearly, what is frustrating Republicans is that they do not have an imminent crisis to exploit to get their way. Since 2011, they have repeatedly relied on the threat of a government shutdown, or a possible credit default, to force damaging spending cuts. (That is how the sequester was created.)

Even now, they are discussing using the debt-ceiling expiration, later this summer or fall, to extort corporation-friendly changes to the tax code that raise no revenue. And this week they are bringing up a dangerous bill that would pay private bondholders in the event of a default.

The demands for regular order were hollow and dishonest. The only way House Republicans can achieve their extremist agenda is not through preserving order, but by causing chaos.
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NYT: The House Prefers Chaos to Order (Original Post) babylonsister May 2013 OP
No good can come from governing by chaos... kentuck May 2013 #1
Republicans love chaos. Baitball Blogger May 2013 #2
Sooner or later this will stop working nadinbrzezinski May 2013 #3
It's the same way the Nazis worked in the final years of the Weimar Republic. backscatter712 May 2013 #4

kentuck

(111,051 posts)
1. No good can come from governing by chaos...
Sun May 5, 2013, 10:26 AM
May 2013

The fuse will eventually burn out and there will be an explosion.

Baitball Blogger

(46,677 posts)
2. Republicans love chaos.
Sun May 5, 2013, 10:32 AM
May 2013

They know they lose when they follow legal reasoning, so they upset the apple cart and steal whatever comes within their reach.

That's chaos governing.

backscatter712

(26,355 posts)
4. It's the same way the Nazis worked in the final years of the Weimar Republic.
Sun May 5, 2013, 10:44 AM
May 2013

The Nazis and their allies in the Reichstag would repeatedly cockblock legislation in the Reich stage from 1930 onwards. Unemployment relief for millions out of work due to the Great Depression? Blocked. Stimulus to put the economy back together? Blocked. Everything blocked.

The only way anything got done at all was when the Chancellor declared emergency powers, dismissed the Reichstag, and ruled by decree. Which suited the Nazis just fine, so they kept this state of affairs until Hitler was able to weasel his way into the Chancellor's office.

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