Far-right gun nut arrested with explosives was plotting terror attack against MN police department

[Bjorn Against]

Plot was against Montevideo Police Department, authorities say
Article by: PAUL WALSH and PAUL MCENROE , Staff writers Updated: May 6, 2013 - 6:55 PM

Federal authorities said Monday they are confident that they foiled an attack on the Montevideo Police Department and possibly saved lives when they arrested a man with suspected white supremacist leanings.

Buford “Bucky” Rogers, 24, of Montevideo, was arrested and charged Friday with being a felon in possession of a firearm after federal authorities found Molotov cocktails, suspected pipe bombs and guns during a search of his mobile home, according to a federal criminal complaint and affidavit.

Federal authorities said Rogers was arrested after it was learned he allegedly talked about wanting to bomb the Montevideo Police Department.

A look at this guy's Facebook postings makes it pretty clear that he has much in common with the Freepers...

“ever one better get your guns ready cuz there comeing FEMA” and “The war is here tsa agents are doing random cheeks and shooting people for no reson,” read others.

http://www.startribune.com/local/206277591.html

[geek tragedy]

1. I bet he Facebook liked Ron and/or Rand Paul. nt

[freshwest]

29. A quick google found his mug shot (I guess) and more details:

Montevideo terror suspect Rogers has previous criminal history

MONTEVIDEO — When Buford “Bucky” Rogers was arrested Friday in Montevideo on a weapons charge and linked with plans for domestic terrorism, it was not his first brush with the law.

The arrest Friday involved local and federal officials, but according to police reports, local authorities had known for about two years that Rogers was involved with “militia-type activities.”

According to a court file from Lac qui Parle County District Court in Madison, Rogers, now 24, was convicted of a felony charge of burglary in the third degree for his involvement in the April 2011 theft of guns and tools from a Dawson garage and a laptop computer from a truck parked outside.

http://www.wctrib.com/content/montevideo-terror-suspect-rogers-has-previous-criminal-history

Is it just me, or do these guys all look alike to you? The beard, hair, look in the eyes and especially that same smirk?

From the OP link:

Several postings on Rogers’ Facebook page from June 15, 2011, express his apparent irritation: “The NWO [New World Order] has taken all your freedoms the right to bear arms freedom of speach freedom of the press …” read one profanity-punctuated message.

Wonder who he was listening to, Infowars or Beck? How bad is this going to get?

[pipoman]

2. If "gun nut" is defined as a felon in possession

of a firearm, I'm down with that..

[Bjorn Against]

4. This guy was clearly a gun nut in more ways than one

[pipoman]

8. Don't you mean he was 'a nut in more ways than one'?

[Bjorn Against]

9. This guy would have been a gun nut even if he had not had a previous felony

He may be nutty for other reasons as well, but he is most certainly a gun nut.

[tularetom]

3. Buford??? Really?

Better watch out for them "background cheeks". I think I'd try to avoid one of them.

[CurtEastPoint]

5. "random cheeks"?

[FSogol]

33. Butts or facial cheeks?

[nadinbrzezinski]

6. Oy

But he ain't alone.

[0rganism]

7. that's one less Bachman-for-senate voter

Not sure how many more her campaign can stand to lose...

[wellstone dem]

10. Not from her district

So was probably hoping for the first chance to vote for her

[The Velveteen Ocelot]

13. Rep for that district is Colin Peterson.

He's a Democrat, technically, but the bluest of Blue Dogs. Often votes with the GOPers. Not as demented as Bachmann, of course, but nothing to write home about.

[Politicalboi]

27. And his father too

Keep it in the family I always say. They found pipe bombs at the old mans house in his shed out back. And Buford Really? I would angry my whole life too.

[GreenStormCloud]

11. He was illegal gun owner. Good he was arrested.

What does that have to do with legal gun owners?

[Bjorn Against]

12. Some gun nuts are legal gun owners others are not

I never said anything about legal gun owners in my post, but because you insist on making it about them I will point out that the only reason he was an illegal gun owner was that he was caught doing something illegal on a previous occassion. If he had not been caught he would have been a legal gun owner but he would still be every bit as dangerous.

[GreenStormCloud]

14. He was caught because that was the type of person that he was.

People who are prone to violence usually run afoul of the law fairly early in their lives. Law-abiding people strongly tend to stay inside the law and are fairly peaceful.

[Bjorn Against]

15. There are plenty of criminals who commit crimes and don't get caught

This guy was very likely a legal gun owner before his first felony.

[GreenStormCloud]

16. And that felony was likely committed early in his life.

Violent people usually get in trouble with the law rather quickly. It is simply the type of person that they are. It is very rare to have a law-abiding person turn violent later in their life.

[Bjorn Against]

17. There are lots of domestic abusers who never get prosecuted

[GreenStormCloud]

18. Spouse abuse is rarely their only violence.

They will usually act out their violence somewhere else as well. Especially when they are young and the hormones are stronger and the brain's ability to control impulses is weaker.

There are lots of books available on the behavior of violent men. I can recommend some. It is an area of human behavior that has interested me for years.

[Bjorn Against]

19. There are tons of exceptions to what you are saying

[GreenStormCloud]

20. Some, but not tons.

I have a choice of believing an anonymous internet poster, or various PhDs in fields of criminology, social work, and psychology in the books that I have concerning violent male behavior.

Further, you have an axe to grind. You are consistently anti-gun, and refuse to separate legal from illegal gun owners.

[Bjorn Against]

21. Cite for me a PhD who says that nearly all domestic abusers are arrested for other violent crimes

You tell me that you have PhDs that back up what you are saying, please cite them for me. Provide links.

[GreenStormCloud]

22. Paper books don't have links. It is a rather old technology.

Code of the Streets, Dr. Elijah Anderson (sociology) teaches at Yale
Inside the Criminal Mind Dr. Stanton E. Samenow (clinical psychology) - Private practice
The Creation of Dangerous Violent Criminals, Dr. Lonnie H Athens (criminology) Senior researcher at Georgetown Univ Law Center
The Murderer Next Door (Why the Mind is designed to kill) Dr. David M. Buss (psychology) teaches at Univ of Texas
Demonic Males (Apes and the origins of human violence) Dr. Richard Wrangham (biological anthropology - teaches at Harvard) and Dale Peterson (Writer)
The Myth of the Out-of-Character Crime Dr. Stanton E. Samenow
The Gift of Fear and Other Survival Signals that Protect Us From Violence by Gavin de Becker - Private personal protection firm.

Read those and a clear picture of the behavior of violent men will emerge.

I can recommend some other books, but instead of being PhDs they will have careers in law enforcement.

[Bjorn Against]

23. You made some very specific claims in this thread

You cite seven different books but don't indicate if any of them actually support the specific claim you make that most perpetrators of domestic violence get arrested for other violent crimes. The internet is a big place, if evidence to support your claim existed it should not be that difficult to find it with Google.

[GreenStormCloud]

24. I gave you some very good book references.

Read them if you want to understand violent men and how they behave.

[Bjorn Against]

25. I was not asking about violent men and how they behave, I was asking about your specific claim

Can you at least provide a quote and page number that would prove your point that nearly all domestic violence perpetrators are arrested for violent crimes at a young age?

[rrneck]

26. ...

http://bit.ly/17IYVPZ

[freshwest]

30. That was a nifty trick, if a bit spooky... It gave this:

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http://www.google.com/search?btnG=1&pws=0&q=are+arrested+domestic+abusers+arrested+for+other+violent+crimes

Looks like there is plenty online.

This isn't my argument. though.

[rrneck]

32. I know.

The subthread was becoming silly. Violent people do violent things. We don't have a crystal ball to tell us how big an asshole somebody has to be to actually become a danger to others around him. We just have to wait until he does and send him to jail for it. That's what due process is all about. In the meantime we, as liberals, should establish a supportive social structure to help people not become violent assholes.

I find it amusing that an outspoken advocate of non violence is angrily railing about "future violent criminals". According to his reasoning, his own attitude should get him locked up.

[Common Sense Party]

28. I don't know about most, but a lot.

One study said about 41% had prior violent crimes on their record.

Page 19: https://www.ncjrs.gov/pdffiles1/nij/grants/222320.pdf

[Bjorn Against]

31. Thanks for the link, so there are tons of exceptions despite what Green Storm Cloud says

41% is a lot, but it is not a majority nor does it include the people who never get arrested. Sounds like most of these violent assholes would have no problem getting a gun legally.

[freshwest]

34. No, it's no problem for anyone to have a gun. Check this out:

Or this:



Or even this:



Or Mother of the Year here:



Sure, I'm laying it on pretty thick here, but those represent the laws in this country. That last is not photoshopped, but an image posted by a family. I'll omit the family Christmas card photos of people with kids grinning as they proudly wave around their assault rifles.

Guns are flooding this country like cellphones and people are celebrating. It is no problem for anyone in any state of mind to get a gun legally, unless that evil old government does its job to regulate it.

This is no longer the culture of hunting or markman skills. It's the recreation of killing other humans, as shown at the NRA convention. We are preparing to slaughter each other.

At times, no one thinks past the words written on paper, the second amendment and they keep the argument distant. So I'm hoping pictures will make folks consider what they are supporting in real life. Is this the best Americans can do?