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warrior1

(12,325 posts)
Mon May 6, 2013, 08:50 PM May 2013

Wow. Three women, missing for a decade, found alive

http://news.yahoo.com/blogs/lookout/three-women-missing-decade-found-alive-234338530.html

Three women, two of them missing for a decade since they were teens in Cleveland, have been found alive, according to police.A 52-year-old man has been arrested, police say. The women were being treated at the hospital. One of the women reportedly had a baby since she came up missing, according to reports.

One of the women, Amanda Berry, was last heard from in 2003, when she called her sister to say she was getting a ride home from the Burger King restaurant where she worked, reported the Cleveland TV station WEWS. She was to turn 17 the day after she disappeared.

The other woman, Gina DeJesus, was 14 when she went missing on April 2, 2004. She was walking home from school.

The third woman, Michelle Knight, 32, was missing since she was 20.


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Wow. Three women, missing for a decade, found alive (Original Post) warrior1 May 2013 OP
omg Marrah_G May 2013 #1
Holy crap! tammywammy May 2013 #2
watch the video of the rescuer warrior1 May 2013 #3
good guy: funny, articulate, compassionate. maxsolomon May 2013 #6
All of that. I love the rescuer. If there's a reward, I hope he gets it. Great day for those kids. freshwest May 2013 #13
That's a very integrated neighborhood... WCGreen May 2013 #17
I thought it was a very painful remark. politicat May 2013 #29
I think he was jabbin' at his neighbors. WCGreen May 2013 #31
kind of like that homeless surfer guy and antoine dodson JI7 May 2013 #19
That was the best interview I've seen in years. sofa king May 2013 #47
Watch the "Kai" interview maxsolomon May 2013 #72
Video of the rescuer's comments is at the link. Baitball Blogger May 2013 #4
Good guy, made me laugh...with his animations. Historic NY May 2013 #49
Thanks BB.. tears of Cha May 2013 #58
It's a good day. Baitball Blogger May 2013 #63
Yes watching the video is a must. Nt newfie11 May 2013 #5
Someone should tell the woman who had the kid that a lot has happened since she disappeared. corkhead May 2013 #7
Hey, Bush is gone. And what lemonade? A baby by rape? I'm not getting where you're coming from here. freshwest May 2013 #11
sorry, a little ham-handed sarcasm... corkhead May 2013 #16
Blech! How could I have forgotten that... Well, I wanted to, is the answer to that! freshwest May 2013 #42
there's a woman sitting on the porch in the google street view. maxsolomon May 2013 #8
One of those guys who keeps girls locked in his basement? BainsBane May 2013 #9
I dont' understand your comment maxsolomon May 2013 #15
I'm asking if that's what this is BainsBane May 2013 #20
Hell yes it's one of those cases. maxsolomon May 2013 #22
It's 2207 warrior1 May 2013 #21
That makes more sense maxsolomon May 2013 #23
And a basement Renew Deal May 2013 #30
That picture is from 2009 JustAnotherGen May 2013 #78
I love the guy in the video! He is cool. I'd have run into his arms too! freshwest May 2013 #10
"How did you know something was wrong?" BainsBane May 2013 #25
Humans are funny that way. Spitfire of ATJ May 2013 #37
Love him Dorian Gray May 2013 #68
Watch the video. Scuba May 2013 #12
Crazy shit in C-Town.... WCGreen May 2013 #14
cleveland is c-town ( the c stands for crazy) leftyohiolib May 2013 #26
I hope this doesn't turn out to be one of those stories of... Locut0s May 2013 #18
OMG! sheshe2 May 2013 #24
The end of the interview with the rescuer, especially last 30 seconds.....PRICELESS! Poll_Blind May 2013 #27
I agree Renew Deal May 2013 #28
I actually thought it was a little sad that he said that. reformist2 May 2013 #33
I think it depends on how you look at things Renew Deal May 2013 #34
I didn't mean to make sport of him. It was both funny and a reminder just... Poll_Blind May 2013 #44
Not to make light of a serious situation, but yeah, that was hilarious, Arctic Dave May 2013 #39
2004, famed psychic told mom Amanda is dead tblue May 2013 #32
Sylvia Browne!!! She's a horrible person. longship May 2013 #38
That's twice in a row Sylvia Browne has called a missing person dead... Archae May 2013 #46
You're too generous. It likely contributed to her cause of death. Turborama May 2013 #40
Oh now that is heart-breaking Marrah_G May 2013 #59
She was only 44 get the red out May 2013 #77
Piers Morgan: "there's the house...with the American flag" rainbow4321 May 2013 #35
I was saying the same thing Catherine Vincent May 2013 #65
It's the Puerto Rican flag Crabby Appleton May 2013 #66
I warrior1 May 2013 #36
This is creepy: A 2004 news story written by the suspect... Tom Ripley May 2013 #41
just reading warrior1 May 2013 #48
Thanks for the clarification! Tom Ripley May 2013 #53
This story is coming up on Lawrence O'Donnell's show Samantha May 2013 #43
Damn starting to sound bad again... Locut0s May 2013 #45
Apparently the guy's 2 brothers were arrested tonight, also rainbow4321 May 2013 #50
I guess we'll see. Yeah that raises some very disturbing possibilities :( Locut0s May 2013 #51
The brother of Dejesus may have even been to that house. FedUpWithIt All May 2013 #54
OMG. I got the infamous "Model Quality Thai Girls" ad on that blog. hunter May 2013 #64
There's a house on Seymour St. with all the windows boarded up Kablooie May 2013 #52
Next door, 2207, with the Cuban Flag on the porch maxsolomon May 2013 #73
Puerto Rican flag justiceischeap May 2013 #79
I learn something every day! maxsolomon May 2013 #80
I read a news story several years ago that was not unlike this one.` BobTheSubgenius May 2013 #55
It was one woman and three men that were imprisoned in Philadelphia. MadrasT May 2013 #67
Can you imagine what the girls and their families have been going through? Rosa Luxemburg May 2013 #56
Horrible! blackspade May 2013 #57
what are the chances there are other people like these girls/women and Jaycee Dugard JI7 May 2013 #60
Great News, Surprising News In A Horrible Situation colsohlibgal May 2013 #61
This is amazing! Sissyk May 2013 #62
I still warrior1 May 2013 #69
So all this time they were held in the very same neighborhood they vanished from? Blue_Tires May 2013 #70
This is international news. (no text) Quantess May 2013 #71
Apparently three brothers named Castro were involved. n/t duffyduff May 2013 #74
Did you hear his the hero's azmom May 2013 #75
I can't help but wonder get the red out May 2013 #76

maxsolomon

(33,252 posts)
6. good guy: funny, articulate, compassionate.
Mon May 6, 2013, 09:02 PM
May 2013

the kidnapper? life with no possibility of parole is too good.

WCGreen

(45,558 posts)
17. That's a very integrated neighborhood...
Mon May 6, 2013, 09:20 PM
May 2013

Still, his remark about a pretty white girl running toward an old black man was funny..

politicat

(9,808 posts)
29. I thought it was a very painful remark.
Mon May 6, 2013, 09:42 PM
May 2013

Sad that it's too often true.

And Mr. Ramsey, this little white woman would run to hug you for your generosity of spirit and courage in helping those women. Too many others would have (and probably have) turned a blind eye.

corkhead

(6,119 posts)
7. Someone should tell the woman who had the kid that a lot has happened since she disappeared.
Mon May 6, 2013, 09:05 PM
May 2013

The lunatics have taken over the asylum while she was gone and therefore she should rejoice and be thankful for god's gift of lemonade.

freshwest

(53,661 posts)
11. Hey, Bush is gone. And what lemonade? A baby by rape? I'm not getting where you're coming from here.
Mon May 6, 2013, 09:16 PM
May 2013

freshwest

(53,661 posts)
42. Blech! How could I have forgotten that... Well, I wanted to, is the answer to that!
Mon May 6, 2013, 10:36 PM
May 2013

And the lunatics are at the gates trying to take over the asylum.

Well, in some states they have taken over.

They may have missed Palin and Romney - that would be good!

maxsolomon

(33,252 posts)
8. there's a woman sitting on the porch in the google street view.
Mon May 6, 2013, 09:10 PM
May 2013

2210 Seymour Ave., according the articles. the house is so tiny and close to it's neighbors it seems impossible 3 women could have been imprisoned there for 10 years.

when the story comes out, it's going to be horrific, and filled with missed opportunities.

may these women find peace and happiness.

BainsBane

(53,016 posts)
20. I'm asking if that's what this is
Mon May 6, 2013, 09:21 PM
May 2013

Periodically you hear about some woman who has been in captivity since she was a young girl, and some guy had her locked in a cellar. Is this one of those cases?

maxsolomon

(33,252 posts)
23. That makes more sense
Mon May 6, 2013, 09:26 PM
May 2013

Bigger house, backyard, parking lots behind, abandoned house next door.

maybe the rescuer is at 2210.

JustAnotherGen

(31,783 posts)
78. That picture is from 2009
Tue May 7, 2013, 03:54 PM
May 2013

But we did a little research at work today - the house where those three women were held is in foreclosure for not paying taxes for three years . . . 2010, 2011, 2012 - and will owe for 2013.

BainsBane

(53,016 posts)
25. "How did you know something was wrong?"
Mon May 6, 2013, 09:28 PM
May 2013

He says: "I knew something was wrong when a little pretty white girl ran into a black man's arms. Something is wrong here. Dead give away."

Locut0s

(6,154 posts)
18. I hope this doesn't turn out to be one of those stories of...
Mon May 6, 2013, 09:20 PM
May 2013

A guy who imprisons girls in his basement in cages. Not that brain washing and living with them after abduction is good but those stories of women locked up in the basement for years.

sheshe2

(83,661 posts)
24. OMG!
Mon May 6, 2013, 09:27 PM
May 2013

Thank god it's over for them now. I hope they can heal in the arms of their families.

Good on the man that rescued them. I love that man!

Renew Deal

(81,847 posts)
34. I think it depends on how you look at things
Mon May 6, 2013, 09:58 PM
May 2013

If you look at it as an accurate state of race relations, then it is sad. If you look at it with Chris Rock's sense of humor and ability to deliver a line, it's funny.

Poll_Blind

(23,864 posts)
44. I didn't mean to make sport of him. It was both funny and a reminder just...
Mon May 6, 2013, 10:39 PM
May 2013

...exactly what the situation on the street, the real street, is. I look at it this way: Here's this man and he just essentially rescued three women. And he's being honest as he recounts his tale. And the standpoint he tells it from reminds everyone just how unequal things are and at first, the absurdity of the reality of his viewpoint strikes one as funny.

And then the reality sets in and there's at least a twinge of uncomfortableness, a reminder of where things really are in this country.

Now, as a person who is fond of humor and communication, and the mechanics of both, the anecdote he told was one of the most difficult kinds of socio-political editorials to craft and slip somebody, like a little time bomb, without them catching on. The reality of it "explodes" in their head, right after they laugh.

I just finished jogging so my brain is mush but I hope that makes sense.

PB

 

Arctic Dave

(13,812 posts)
39. Not to make light of a serious situation, but yeah, that was hilarious,
Mon May 6, 2013, 10:21 PM
May 2013
Indeed.

Glad to see they are alive and they will get some help they no doubt need.

tblue

(16,350 posts)
32. 2004, famed psychic told mom Amanda is dead
Mon May 6, 2013, 09:51 PM
May 2013

on the Montel Williams Show.

http://www.wkyc.com/news/story.aspx?storyid=26501

Maybe it gave the family a much-needed sense of closure, but Sylvia Browne, I would LOVE to hear you eat your words on TV. What you got to say now, hanh? Charlatan!

longship

(40,416 posts)
38. Sylvia Browne!!! She's a horrible person.
Mon May 6, 2013, 10:14 PM
May 2013

And Montel Williams is a utter douche bag for enabling her fraudulent bullshit for years.

Google Sylvia Browne and see what I mean.

Here is a link to something which will show the utter heartlessness of that hag, Sylvia Browne.
http://www.stopsylvia.com/articles/montel_shawnhornbeck2.shtml

Archae

(46,301 posts)
46. That's twice in a row Sylvia Browne has called a missing person dead...
Mon May 6, 2013, 10:42 PM
May 2013

And they are very much alive.

Browne charges money for her "readings."

She should be charged with fraud.

Turborama

(22,109 posts)
40. You're too generous. It likely contributed to her cause of death.
Mon May 6, 2013, 10:30 PM
May 2013

Amanada's mom died in 2006 of a broken heart.




The case was featured on “American’s Most Wanted.” Louwana Miller appeared on Montel Williams’ nationally-syndicated talk show in November 2004. On the show, a psychic told Miller that Amanda was probably dead.

“I still don’t want to believe it,” Louwana Miller said in an interview after the show. “I want to have hope but . . . what else is there?”

Activist Art McKoy befriended Louwana Miller during her ordeal. He said he could tell that the stress and heartache were wearing her down. The visit with the psychic was the breaking point, he said.

“From that point, Ms. Miller was never the same,” McKoy said. “I think she had given up.”

http://www.cleveland.com/metro/index.ssf/2013/05/amanda_berrys_mother_louwana_m.html

get the red out

(13,460 posts)
77. She was only 44
Tue May 7, 2013, 02:49 PM
May 2013

Now that poor girl has to mourn her mother.

Horrific. I wish those bastards could be tried for Louwana Miller's murder, because they certainly brought her death by taking her daughter.

I hope those monsters rot in prison and are miserable for the rest of their sickening lives.

rainbow4321

(9,974 posts)
35. Piers Morgan: "there's the house...with the American flag"
Mon May 6, 2013, 10:03 PM
May 2013

Um, that's a CUBAN flag, guy, not an American flag.

He was saying it when they showed video of the house where the women were found.



And I know that legally the hospital cannot give out any healthcare info, but the ER doc "press conf" was not really worth him going on camera: "again I can't go into any more details". Coulda replaced that who air time with a piece of paper, one sentence.





 

Tom Ripley

(4,945 posts)
41. This is creepy: A 2004 news story written by the suspect...
Mon May 6, 2013, 10:32 PM
May 2013

Gina DeJesus’ disappearance has changed her neighborhood
by Ariel Castro

(Plain Press, June 2004) Since April 2, 2004 , the day 14-year-old Gina DeJesus was last seen on her way home from Wilbur Wright Middle School , neighborhood residents have been taken by an overwhelming need for caution. Parents are more strictly enforcing curfews, encouraging their children to walk in groups, or driving them to and from school when they had previously walked alone.

“You can tell the difference,” DeJesus’ mother, Nancy Ruiz said. “People are watching out for each other’s kids. It’s a shame that a tragedy had to happen for me to really know my neighbors. Bless their hearts, they’ve been great.”

On Cleveland ’s west side, it is difficult to go any length of time without seeing Gina’s picture on telephone poles, in windows, or on cars along the busy streets.

“People are really looking out for my daughter,” Ruiz said.

For seven weeks, Gina’s family has been organizing searches, holding prayer vigils, posting fliers and calling press conferences. Despite the many tips and rumors that have been circulating in the neighborhood, there has been no sign of her.

One thing is for certain, however. Almost everyone feels a connection with the family, and Gina’s disappearance has the whole area talking.

“It’s traumatized a lot of people,” Bob Zak, Safety Coordinator of the Westown Community Development Corporation, said. “People are suspicious of everyone. Kids, parents, and grandparents are afraid.”

The organization serves Cleveland ’s Ward 19, which stretches from West Boulevard to West 134th Street .

Parents and relatives waiting for their children as school let out at Wilbur Wright recently expressed concern about the number of sex offenders living and working in the area.

“I really believe there needs to be more security,” Vaneetha Smith said as she waited for her niece outside Wilbur Wright Middle School at the end of the day. “We have too many kidnappings, and they should crack down on all the sex offenders in the area.”

Luis Perez echoed Smith’s concerns as he waited for his niece at the school.

“I think the neighborhood is pretty bad,” he said. “You have to be aware of some people out there.”

The Ohio Electronic Sex Offender Registration and Notification (eSORN) database lists 133 sex offenders living or working in Gina’s immediate zip code. Many residents of the area, however, cannot use the database, as they do not have access to the Internet at home.

“I have been here almost four years and I have been notified of only one sex offender,” Ruiz said. “And he lives only about 1,000 feet away from here.”

Ohio law prohibits sex offenders who are required to register from establishing their residence within 1,000 feet of school buildings.

“There is no enforcing the laws because they still live right next to the schools and the bus stops,” Ruiz said. She believes the process of registering sex offenders is essentially a waste of time.

At a Ward 19 crime watch meeting, one of ten monthly, residents describe the area as a multi-ethnic community where people work and try to keep their housing up to par. They feel the disappearance of Amanda Berry on April 21, 2003 was a wake-up call, but Gina’s case really caught everyone’s attention.

Many residents believe the schools and the city have more work to do to help out.

“There is not enough supervision at the schools and when the kids get out, they still run through the streets,” Smith said. “They say that once they leave the school premises, the school is not responsible for them. But until they reach their house, I believe they are. They should be more concerned with their safety.”

“The school is supposed to be a safe place,” Perez said. “They need more police around the schools, surrounding the area. Without that, it’s just going to keep on going and there will be more innocent people getting hurt.”

Isaac Rodriguez has seen some changes happen at Wilbur Wright.

“There are more security guards at the school now,” the father of two middle school students said. “They have been having assemblies and talking to the kids about the danger.”

“When you send your kids out to school now”, Smith said, “you don’t know if they are going to make it home or not. From West 105th to [West 110th], anything could happen. I feel the mayor should do something about that. The children should be our first priority, no matter what else is going on in the city.”

Zak, a former Cleveland police officer of 30 years, believes the community is feeling the effects of the city’s cuts in the police force.

“The first thing a city should do is protect its citizens,” he said. Although police cannot be on the scene of every crime as they occur, Zak reports that residents are getting responses to calls “one, two, and four hours later.”

Cuts in the police force are not the only budget changes that are directly affecting residents. The Cleveland Municipal School District is also mulling how it will eliminate its projected $100 million budget deficit. Among the items cut will be purchased services, employee overtime, supplemental pay, textbooks, school staff and student transportation.

Locut0s

(6,154 posts)
45. Damn starting to sound bad again...
Mon May 6, 2013, 10:42 PM
May 2013

Was hoping for the best case scenario of him having brainwashed these kids and living with them. I know that sounds far fetched but there have been cases. Not that that would have been good but I think it would have been the best case scenario. What I was worried about was the possibility of him keeping them in cages and what not that you hear some of these monsters doing.

They just said that he often had his own daughter and grandson over to the house. Unless they were in on it which doesn't sound likely, its starting to sound like the basement prison / cage scenario may be more likely.

rainbow4321

(9,974 posts)
50. Apparently the guy's 2 brothers were arrested tonight, also
Mon May 6, 2013, 11:29 PM
May 2013

Per Twitter...so I take it they knew about the women being held in the house?

FedUpWithIt All

(4,442 posts)
54. The brother of Dejesus may have even been to that house.
Mon May 6, 2013, 11:49 PM
May 2013

According to a blog i read tonight, he believed the kidnapper to be a friend.

Just crazy. So glad these women and their children are safe.

http://amymihaljevic.blogspot.com/

hunter

(38,304 posts)
64. OMG. I got the infamous "Model Quality Thai Girls" ad on that blog.
Tue May 7, 2013, 12:34 AM
May 2013

One of the most inappropriate ad placements I've ever seen.

Kablooie

(18,612 posts)
52. There's a house on Seymour St. with all the windows boarded up
Mon May 6, 2013, 11:38 PM
May 2013

and private property signs on the fence.
I wonder if this is where he kept them.

2215 Seymour ave, Cleveland in Google Streetview.

maxsolomon

(33,252 posts)
73. Next door, 2207, with the Cuban Flag on the porch
Tue May 7, 2013, 12:48 PM
May 2013

The abandoned house next door probably helped make it possible.

justiceischeap

(14,040 posts)
79. Puerto Rican flag
Tue May 7, 2013, 04:03 PM
May 2013

Has red stripes


Cuban flag has blue stripes


Screenshot of Street view 2207 Seymour Ave.

BobTheSubgenius

(11,560 posts)
55. I read a news story several years ago that was not unlike this one.`
Mon May 6, 2013, 11:51 PM
May 2013

This guy in Philadelphia had several women handcuffed to radiators and similar fixtures in his basement. His explanation to police was that they were there when he moved in.

MadrasT

(7,237 posts)
67. It was one woman and three men that were imprisoned in Philadelphia.
Tue May 7, 2013, 06:14 AM
May 2013

They were being held so their captors steal their Social Security checks.

Landlord finds mentally disabled people locked in basement

Sick bastards were treating them like animals.

Rosa Luxemburg

(28,627 posts)
56. Can you imagine what the girls and their families have been going through?
Mon May 6, 2013, 11:59 PM
May 2013

It is horrible when people go missing especially children. A young woman disappeared from our area a few years ago she was on her way to the store. I hope that she didn't meet a similar fate.

JI7

(89,241 posts)
60. what are the chances there are other people like these girls/women and Jaycee Dugard
Tue May 7, 2013, 12:19 AM
May 2013

right now being held prisoner by someone ?

colsohlibgal

(5,275 posts)
61. Great News, Surprising News In A Horrible Situation
Tue May 7, 2013, 12:27 AM
May 2013

Bless the man who answered the call for help, who stepped up to the plate to be a real hero. I'm so thrilled these ladies are alive, it usually doesn't end up this way in these situations.

May these women find some peace and happiness in the years ahead. The men who carried out this - they will go away to the big house and I wouldn't bet on their longevity there, prisoner's code of conduct is not kind to child rapists. What scum, all three of them.

get the red out

(13,460 posts)
76. I can't help but wonder
Tue May 7, 2013, 02:43 PM
May 2013

If there are other people out there, whose childhood visages are on milk cartons, living as sex slaves just out of sight of normal, everyday, society?

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