Yet Another Difference Between Democrats And Republicans

[ChoppinBroccoli]

John Edwards' once-promising political career is pretty much dead, barring some sort of resurrection that would make Rasputin jealous.

Mark Sanford just got elected to the Senate.

The Party of Personal Responsibility and Family Values, my ass.

[Beearewhyain]

1. Two Americas indeed n/t

[progressoid]

3. Or Vitter or Gingrich or Hyde etc etc etc

[Change has come]

4. Sanford was elected to the House. n/t

[Cha]

8. Thanks, Change has come

[graham4anything]

5. Please, NO ONE wants John Edwards back. 2 wrongs don't make it correct.

Especially with Edwards racist whisper campaign he used in 2008 as the
"Last chance Great white hope".

btw, good to 'see you' if you are the same C.B. from other places years ago.

(note-up to a few days ago, I made the same mistake, Sanford won a small house seat that is one the most red districts in the USA for years and years,
it wasn't a senate race though it seemed like it).

but let's be happy Edwards selfdestructed. He was a major fraud.
never JK should have picked him in the first place. He bought nothing to the ticket

It's the people in that specific district. Not all the people in the state.

And they say only about 1/3 came out to vote. That means all the hard core extreme voters voted and only 13% approx. were left. One can't beat 20 with just 13. But if the other 67 came out, then it would have been 80-20 not 20-13.

[Beearewhyain]

6. I don't believe the OP was advocating for a return of Edwards

but just pointing out that those who advocate for absolute morality are often the ones who conveniently ignore transgressions while Democrats are held to a more demanding standard regardless of stated positions. So who is more moral?

[graham4anything]

7. They wasted how many tens of millions going after Bill Clinton for sex

but the best way to overcome it is by rendering them politically obsolete nationwide
by only voting for Democratic candidates

then ignoring the extremists
(and they are just a small % of the voters in the republican party, just hard core voters who always vote.

imperative for all those against the extremists to vote against the extremists. They are a finite number.

Nationwide, they are a very small number.

We don't need 100% of the house or the senate to render them obsolete.
Just 51% in the house and 60 in the senate who ALWAYS vote with the president who needs to always be democratic
They win by sticking together
Fracture makes the democratic party lose. Fracture means voters stay home or protest or don't realize how important their vote is.

And Governors and legislatures are important come 2020 and the next census
Instead of protest, work to make the next census and next gerrymandering favorable for the 80%.

The one good thing about the gerrymandering is-all their extreme voters are in the wide district, but they are not the whole state.

[Beearewhyain]

10. I believe that for me to understand what you are saying

you are going to have to define what an "extremist" is. Are you referring to the tea party or is this the Krugman/Keynesian/evidence based segment?

As far as the electoral structure that you refer to...the game is rigged. The Senate is disproportionately represented by rural, low population states and the house has been gerrymandered into an un representative body. This is something that occurs well outside of the general sense of policy or ideology of what most Americans would prefer. As evidence...the background check vote.

[graham4anything]

11. my response #5 was to the OP poster,

who I believe I know from a board around 2005-2010 (if it's not that poster had the same exact name).

it was sort of poster specific.

[Beearewhyain]

12. Ummmm, OK

but put that way seems a little stalkerish. Just sayin'.

Bye & Peace

[ChoppinBroccoli]

13. I Don't Want John Edwards Back Either

I admit, I got suckered in by his act in 2004. But when I found out what he was actually all about, I could never support him again. The entire point of my post was to illustrate that when Democrats find out a guy they once supported is a scumbag, his career is over, but when Republicans, the Party of Personal Responsibility and Family Values, find out the same thing, they just wait until the person's transgressions are far enough in the rear-view mirror that they think no one will remember. I guess when you're used to supporting scumbags 99% of the time, one that's a little scummier than the others doesn't really make all that much difference.

And yes, I thought choosing John Edwards as a running mate in 2004 was a major blunder by John Kerry as well. I thought Gephardt would have been a much better, more strategic choice. By the way, I also thought he should have given major consideration to your boy Graham as well (simply for the Florida connection).

If you're thinking you recognize me from the old John Kerry boards back in 2004, then you're right. I was a regular there (and I think I remember you as well). I jumped over to John Kerry's bandwagon as soon as Howard Dean (a guy I still admire and would support to this day) dropped out of the race, and I worked my ass off for the man and poured my entire heart and soul into his campaign. I was so devastated when he lost that it literally took me about 3 days before I was even able to function again.

[graham4anything]

15. Yes, what you say is correct

McGreevey, Spitzer and Weiner should come back to some position(not Edwards).

I don't see why not.

and yeah, after 2004 it was devistating.
(and yeah, after the Kerry board cgcs and then here for me.)

I joined the Kerry board after Dean, after Gore got out, and actually I know and wanted Obama back then but knew that was way too soon.(I have an Obama 2004 button).

Bob Graham and Florida was won.(same in 2000).

Kerry should actually have picked Dean as VP, that too would have been an amazing ticket.Dean earned it.

We gotta win,win,win,win,win and then weed the bad ones out and get better, but not kick the ones out to replace with the republicans(and no matter which type, the money pays for whomever on their side, so the people today have to do the same

Why doesn't Dean move and run for governor or senate in a different state?

[Roland99]

14. Same with Spitzer