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This is one of those articles, and it holds true of the excerpt, that you should kind of read carefully. I'm not really going to highlight anything for that reason.
Michelle Knight needs "facial reconstruction" after Cleveland rescue, grandmother says:
Knight's grandmother, Deborah Knight, confirmed the information, telling WOIO-TV: "When she was severely beaten, he had beat her so bad in the face, she has to have facial reconstruction, and she's lost hearing in one ear."
Records obtained by WOIO-TV show Knight also may have faced physical abuse before she was kidnapped.
Records show David Feckley was charged and convicted in the early 2000s of child endangerment, for breaking the arm of Knight's infant son. He served eight years in prison. But a rape charge was dropped when the alleged victim, Knight, couldn't be found. She went missing in 2002.
Knight wasn't seeing visitors Thursday, not even her family. On Wednesday, her mother, in from Naples, Fla., met with Knight briefly at Metro Health Medical Center. A relative said the meeting was strained, and Knight asked her mom to leave.
More at the link!
I wish her well and hope she recovers soon. That's going to be a long, long road.
PB
AndyA
(16,993 posts)"Well, it really wasn't so bad for her those ten years..."
Bucky
(53,998 posts)Response to AndyA (Reply #1)
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Bake
(21,977 posts)Just sayin'.
Bake
snagglepuss
(12,704 posts)AndyA
(16,993 posts)That's why I added the after my post. I had just read on Facebook something that was posted regarding her, and I always think of that horrible comment she made about the Hurricane victims not having it so bad...so I could see her saying the same thing in this situation.
Sorry about the confusion.
snagglepuss
(12,704 posts)but she has probably had that thought course it's way through the maze and morass of confused brain cells wasted inside her skull, which she passed on to 'w'. Small, small 'w'. Tragically funny anyway.
Honeycombe8
(37,648 posts)KansDem
(28,498 posts)http://www.nytimes.com/2005/09/07/national/nationalspecial/07barbara.html?_r=0
PDJane
(10,103 posts)Quantess
(27,630 posts)as in, "what the fuck" does this story have to do with Barbara Bush Sr. in your dreamlike weird conections of what is deemed relevant to post on DU...?
AndyA
(16,993 posts)I explained the story behind my post in an earlier response.
Is your post somehow any more relevant? Seems to me you're just trying to troll up trouble, I understand some people get satisfaction from that, but I'm not going to play that game. Nice language.
Marrah_G
(28,581 posts)And it only stands to get worse.
This poor woman, she will never be the same.
malaise
(268,944 posts)A nasty disgusting sociopath - cruel to the max
liberalhistorian
(20,816 posts)who was forced by Castro to do most of the "dirty" work, including having to deliver Berry's baby and being told, when the baby wasn't breathing after birth, that if the baby died, he'd kill her (Michelle). All the five times she got pregnant from his rapes, he deliberately caused miscarriages by starvation or beating her in the stomach. He repeatedly beat her in the face, especially, and she, of course, never received any treatment and the bones set wrong. I can't even type anymore, thinking about what she's endured and the fact that now she has nowhere to go and no family support and love, like the other two. There are no words.
Le Taz Hot
(22,271 posts)need to get together and figure out a SAFE place she can go and be loved and cared for. Apparently her biological family is not an option.
Journeyman
(15,031 posts)I imagine what Michelle Knight wishes for most these days is space. And time.
bullwinkle428
(20,629 posts)inside of me makes me want to kill him myself with my bare hands.
Fortunately, the rational, anti-d.p. side of me is still present, and makes me realize that keeping him in a cage of his own for the rest of his life is the ultimate form of punishment for this crime.
riqster
(13,986 posts)A plain little cell, alone and powerless over any part of his own life. All control stripped away, decade after decade.
That part of his crimes we CAN punish him for in a fitting manner, at least.
TeamPooka
(24,221 posts)after that then we can start to punish him with punitive jail time....
BainsBane
(53,031 posts)NEVER
TeamPooka
(24,221 posts)he'll be around other prisoners who will see him for the ultimate coward he is. Doesn't look good for him and I'm glad.
Honeycombe8
(37,648 posts)fight the death penalty so much. Not only are they "put to sleep," but for years they are on death row, isolated, with few privileges.
riqster
(13,986 posts)He is in isolation right now: SOP for rapists, child molesters, etc. in Cleveland, at least at first. Supermaxes also hold people in isolation.
Honeycombe8
(37,648 posts)he should be put...or in the regular population. Like Jeffrey Dahmer.
freshwest
(53,661 posts)He has lived in a cage all of his in own mind, but that does not excuse any of this.
Life in prison would be the first choice, and if the state of Ohio wants more, sorry, honestly, I don't much care. I feel the DP has been misapplied so often, such as the case of Troy Davis, that it's wrong on principle.
Also felony charges being filed against the black uncle in FL when the child found and shot himself with his permitted CCW, but others not being charged, added to years of bias, the legal system has a lot to answer for in this nation.
But I shudder to think what it would be like as an employee to deal with this maniac in person in a prison. What a hellish job to have to look at that face every day and be unemotional just to get a paycheck. I can't even look at his image online without needing to
snagglepuss
(12,704 posts)freshwest
(53,661 posts)Yet the neighbors didn't see it, only saw a regular guy who was living a conventional life. People maintain fantasies about others that seldom match reality.
Smarmie Doofus
(14,498 posts)That's for sure.
Z_I_Peevey
(2,783 posts)It is the fact that psychopaths are extremely talented at deception. Extremely.
TeamPooka
(24,221 posts)derby378
(30,252 posts)Any prison in America, even ADX Florence, is way too humane for this monster. And Michelle Knight? She's gonna be messed up for the rest of her life. I hope I'm wrong about this, but we've been down this road before.
Part of me says that there are some people who just need killin'. They have forfeited any right to our water and air.
DevonRex
(22,541 posts)That young woman deserves the best life has to offer from here on. The first part has been sheer hell.
riverwalker
(8,694 posts)and was placed in foster care. Don't know if ever adopted.
DevonRex
(22,541 posts)made her mother leave. I was afraid of that.
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riverwalker
(8,694 posts)Mom's boyfriend abused Michelle's son, causing her to lose custody. Explains her hatred for her mother, when mom visited in hospital, she was asked to leave.
Michelles twin brother is the only family she wants to see. He wants to "teach her how to use a computer" and help her go to school. He hates the mother as well.
The most telling thing, is that when Michelle went missing, the only photos her mother had was the one grainy snapshot, and her yearbook picture. Like she was a ghost, no photos, not on missing persons list, so sad.
I hope the Cleveland Courage fund can put Michelle up in a private healing place, or perhaps FBI safe house. She has no where to go, no "home" to return to.
Poll_Blind
(23,864 posts)Odd place for inspiration, but wise words are wise words.
PB
Lars39
(26,109 posts)The wronged are under no obligation to do so.
TeeYiYi
(8,028 posts)Just went on a trip down memory lane with Kai (thanks to your post) to see what he's been up to. Did you ever see the video of him playing guitar? I think it's an original song.
He's amazing to me. I love his spirit. Someone should give that boy a record deal.
Thanks PB, for the inspiration.
TYY
Poll_Blind
(23,864 posts)PB
RainbowSuperfund
(110 posts)ellisonz
(27,711 posts)riverwalker
(8,694 posts)they will have many needs. People are even donating "services in kind". Dentists are offering free services, people donating puppies.
Please donate if you can.
DevonRex
(22,541 posts)Her own mother brought an abuser and rapist into the home. And god only knows where her baby ended up.
JustAnotherGen
(31,811 posts)He's that soft place for her to land. And he's not in Ohio - right? I thought he came in from out of town to see her? Would be nice for to go and be away from all of that due to the discord in her family.
wercal
(1,370 posts)...but the FBI took her off, when they could not contact the mother and verify that she was still missing....apparently mom wasn't beating down their door looking for her daughter.
This is a terrible story, and I hope that she has at least one relative whom she can trust and restart her life with.
BainsBane
(53,031 posts)Paying very little attention to her disappearance and not even notifying other family members?
WolverineDG
(22,298 posts)they took her off the federal missing persons list because no one in the family would respond to requests asking if she was still missing.
Gin
(7,212 posts)What a terrible existence she has had.....hopefully this new chapter will balance out the bad with lots of good...
riverwalker
(8,694 posts)She wants to start a new life, have the whole family there, her brother said. Im gonna teach her to use a computer and stuff like that.
http://www.nydailynews.com/news/national/cleveland-abduction-vic-gang-raped-jr-high-article-1.1339798
Hamlette
(15,411 posts)I still do not get why she is estranged from her mother.
southerncrone
(5,506 posts)and if above post is accurate, it must have include sexual abuse which resulted in her pregnancy. She most likely feels like mom is an accomplice to that abuse.
For the life of me, I will NEVER understand why some women think they have to have a "man" in their lives, regardless of the worthiness of the man. Any child services worker will tell you that these men often abuse the kids...it has become a national epidemic of sorts.
Please wake up mothers!
gateley
(62,683 posts)It was horrifying -- and no love lost on the daughter, either (although I forget what the article said).
I want so bad for her to find some happiness.
riverwalker
(8,694 posts)what we want to remember, what we find beautiful, what we treasure.
Mom had no photos to give authorities.
if reports are true, the mother abused her other children. The brother sounds like the only decent relative she has.
Honeycombe8
(37,648 posts)Her mother was apparently not there for her...Michelle had an abusive childhood, and Mom appparently did nothing to stop it (or maybe even more than that? dunno).
Don't blame her if she never speaks to her mother again.
newfie11
(8,159 posts)Sounds like she has never had much of a chance in life.
I hope it all changes for her now.
freshwest
(53,661 posts)If Castro and Feckley knew each other this could be revenge for Feckley going to prison. Stranger things have happened.
And the boy that was taken from her, was harmed, and no doubt she was harmed by the entire process of no support and no justice.
I am very glad her twin brother is going to help her. He may be the only one who can work to heal a lifetime of abuse and grief over losing her child and the horrific injuries suffered at the hands of this monster.
Her life was full of nightmares before this. I wish her all the love in the world that she can recieve, from her supportive brother and eventually her son who may consider her to have abandoned him as well. It's been hell for all of them.
I guess this doesn't qualify as a hate crime, but I feel it should.
riverwalker
(8,694 posts)her brother, Freddie, sounds very sweet. He hugged her in the hospital, but was afraid to hug too hard to hurt her.
freshwest
(53,661 posts)I believe her survival and that of the other women was due to their love for the young girl, even in that house of horror.
Someone quoted here on DU:
Love - stronger than death, and harder than hell. ~ Meister Eckhart
redqueen
(115,103 posts)southerncrone
(5,506 posts)Did Feckley "hire" Castro to "get rid of" his problem? Once he had her, decided he liked having young female sex/torture slaves & took the other two....:
freshwest
(53,661 posts)Some families are so toxic, that to save oneself and one's children they just have to separate. That the mother came from FL to visit, I don't know if she thought she'd get forgiveness or some money. Feckley got 8 years in prison for the assault on the little boy - it must have been very severe. But he got off on the rape charge. So much goes on behind closed doors, so much pain and cruelty.
get the red out
(13,461 posts)I'm glad she told that wretched excuse she has for a mother to get lost. I read somewhere that her mother said they just assumed she left town and went on with their lives like she didn't even give much thought to it. I guess she was just glad her "problem" was gone and couldn't bring up more stuff on her precious man.
wercal
(1,370 posts)Feckley hired Castro to murder the girl.
Castro kidnapped her instead, but told Feckley she was dead...which may explain why her mom wasn't that interested in finding her, or even keeping her on the FBI missing person's list.
I hope the statute of limitations hasn't run out, and she can still testify against Feckley.
One other thought - Castro may have been able to pick up these girls, to 'give them rides', because the girls knew and trusted him as their bus driver. Feckley's thought process may have been - hey, she'll trust Castro, so I'll ask him to kill her.
All speculation of course.
vankuria
(904 posts)this young lady finds love, comfort and security in her life. Apparently something she's never had before and I could not imagine how she's coped all these years.
pinboy3niner
(53,339 posts)Posted in LBN by DonViejo:
http://www.democraticunderground.com/1014480195
HappyMe
(20,277 posts)It's going to take years for her to recover. I hope she gets the best of psychological care there is.
nolabear
(41,959 posts)dembotoz
(16,799 posts)I hope she ends up with better.
HockeyMom
(14,337 posts)Most severely beaten, multiple miscarriages, "special needs" herself, unstable home life before, etc. I hope she gets the help she so deservedly needs.
Whisp
(24,096 posts)I love you, Michelle. You deserve and deserved so much better.
I hope with all my heart that you will find some joy and happiness sometimes soon and find a safe place instead of where you have been all this time.
liberalhistorian
(20,816 posts)piece of shit for a mother should ALL be held financially responsible and should make right their wrong. The police, for not giving a shit in the first place and just assuming, based on her age and family history, that she'd run away despite evidence to the contrary, and for doing NOTHING to try to find her. The FBI for taking her off the list after making little to no effort to find her. Yes, yes, I know, they tried to contact her mother to ascertain if she was still missing, but they're the FBI, for God's sake, there were other even basic things they could have done that they didn't get off their biased, lazy duffs to do. And her mother, for not giving a shit about her in the first place, for subjecting her to men who abused her and her child, causing her to lose custody, and for doing NOTHING NOTHING NOTHING NOTHING to try to find her or keep her name in the public and keep the search alive.
This poor woman, out of all the three, had and has the worst of it and has little family love and support to help her, like the others, and nowhere to go. She should own the police and the FBI for the rest of her life.
leftstreet
(36,106 posts)An attorney representing Knight's mother, Barbara Knight, said today that she was being shut out of seeing Michelle. Jay Milano said that he and Barbara have gotten no response from police or the hospital when they asked for help in contacting Michelle.
Milano told ABC News that Barbara Knight loves her daughter and wants to be there for her during this time.
Poll_Blind
(23,864 posts)PB
liberalhistorian
(20,816 posts)for her future well-being, especially if she isn't strong enough to fight off her vulture of a "family", particularly her mother. I can see her mother trying to get control of her, being named her "guardian", both so she can have access to any money Michelle gets and so she can control her life and Michelle not being able to do anything about it. Never put anything past the legal system. Anyone who spends more than five minutes working in it knows that, and I spent a lot more than that. Michelle needs a SHARK of an attorney who will be on her side as no one ever was before in her life and who will get her goddamn selfish, cruel family to GO AWAY and NEVER have any access to any of her money or assets.
I cannot imagine my adult son disappearing and not giving a shit about where he was and not trying to look for him and keep the search alive, I just cannot. I can't fathom this mother, who blithely went on with her own life as if nothing had changed, not even bothering to be available for the FBI when they tried to find out if she was still unaccounted for or not and couldn't get anyone in her family to respond, so they took her off the list. Fuck her mother and fuck her family. They need to LEAVE HER ALONE.
Shadrach
(69 posts)The poor woman. I can't even imagine what she has gone through.
Quantess
(27,630 posts)It's haunting to think about.
This is why people are clamoring for the death penalty for that piece of shit who tormented her for 11 years and the other two women for 10 years. I am against the death penalty in principle but I wouldn't bat an eyelash if that fucker got executed.
Number23
(24,544 posts)Why even write this crap if it's going to be so badly written, devoid of information and confusing?
"Records show David Feckley was charged and convicted in the early 2000s of child endangerment"
Who the hell is David Feckley?
"But a rape charge was dropped when the alleged victim, Knight, couldn't be found. She went missing in 2002."
When did the rape occur? Who was charged with the rape?
Journalism is going so far down the toilet it's amazing.
southerncrone
(5,506 posts)Not only are articles poorly written with numerous grammar, spelling (use Spellcheck, for heaven's sake, or are they just too lazy to do that!), no logical flow of information, or sketchy info at best. As a recent HS teacher, I can tell you that it goes back to lack of focus on the basics. Too much emphasis on making school "fun" & not teaching personal responsibility, especially in the homes. Don't get me wrong, not all homes are guilty, but they are the majority. We have been graduating too many students for too long who can't read, form a complete sentence, or perform even basic mathematical calculations. Here we have examples of what that approach has created.
Turborama
(22,109 posts)Is he still alive?
riverwalker
(8,694 posts)Lupe Collins, a neighbor who helped the DeJesus family look for Gina since she disappeared in 2004, said Nancy DeJesus told her in a phone call on Thursday that she and her husband are trying to convince Michelle, now 32, to stay with them.
'She was Georginas sister for ten years in that house and shes still her sister now,' Ms Collins said.'Theyre going to take her in as their own family member and help her.
'Michelle doesnt want to go back to her own family because they abused her before she was kidnapped and they only want the money now.'
Michelle was released from the hospital on Friday and was taken to Gina's house.
Ms Collins said the DeJesus family will be able to offer Knight the loving household that she never had even before she was allegedly kidnapped by Ariel Castro.
'Theyre a loving family, a giving family. Felix and Nancy will take care of her and make sure she gets the helps she needs,' Ms Collins said.
Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2322809/Ohio-kidnap-victim-Michelle-Knight-adopted-family-Gina-DeJesus.html#ixzz2SzVq6iHk
madaboutharry
(40,208 posts)But, they could be denying that she is there so that Michelle's family will go away.
whathehell
(29,067 posts)GetTheRightVote
(5,287 posts)I hope they put him away for a very long, long time.