California dad 'begged for his life' as police beat him to death - witnesses

[damnedifIknow]

California father of four died Wednesday shortly after a group of police allegedly beat him with batons as he lay defenseless on the sidewalk. Cops, before confiscating witness’ cameras, also reportedly unleashed a canine unit on him.

http://rinf.com/alt-news/breaking-news/california-dad-begged-for-his-life-as-police-beat-him-to-death-witnesses/32604/

[NYC_SKP]

1. People who capture pics or video need to instantly send it others.

Because the cops WILL take your phone and you can't expect to ever see it again. Ever.

More about this story and the phones here:

Tello said the phone of the first witness was taken after the deputies told him he was either going to give up the phone the easy way or the hard way.

"They basically told him they were either going to keep him at this house all night until they could find a judge to sign a search warrant or he could just turn over his phone," he said.

The witness gave up his phone two hours before he had to get to work and was told by deputies that he could collect his phone the next day after they had extracted the evidence they needed, Tello said.

However, the witness never got his phone back, Tello said, and was told it could take years before he does because the investigation could take a long time.

http://www.bakersfieldcalifornian.com/local/x568091070/Dad-who-died-during-arrest-begged-for-his-life-cops-take-witness-video

[damnedifIknow]

2. More informative link

Thanks for posting.

[Bluenorthwest]

3. Just fyi, I did not read you link at all, but searched for Bakersfield local stories

nt

[NYC_SKP]

6. I did a similar search for the victim's name and Bakersfield.

Rough bastards, an unarmed man.

[BainsBane]

12. What are you trying to say with this?

[newmember]

22. got milk

[BainsBane]

24. how does that relate to this story?

And how is it an appropriate response to a man's brutal killing?

[frylock]

18. dropbox..

You can configure dropbox to upload media automatically.

[defacto7]

55. True...

but if they have your phone they'll get to your dropbox which they will probably go for first. You would have to have a way to get it downloaded off of dropbox before they get to it.

[Xithras]

62. Very few do.

I believe the default settings only sync when you're on wifi, and few change that setting. Regular syncing can eat a phone battery in a matter of hours.

[msongs]

4. police are never your friends nt

[damnedifIknow]

5. Damned if I know

Seriously. What the hell is going on?

[lpbk2713]

28. Those clearly weren't police.

They were fascist thugs.

And this is getting to be more of a common occurrence as time goes by.

[mimi85]

79. Are you serious?

Of course they were cops, unless you're being facetious.

[Liberal_in_LA]

8. kick

[Junkdrawer]

9. As the Iraq War dragged on, one of my fears....

was that vets would return, get jobs as cops, and then dispense justice and control the only way they knew.

Glad to see that fear was unfounded.

[Pelican]

58. Was there something in the article...

... that referenced the fact that any of the police officers were veterans with PTSD issues?

Or was it just your own projection of bias?

[sibelian]

70. Your criticism isn't invalid

...but your opponent's observation needn't be either.

[Pelican]

72. Seeing as how the article had nothing to do with veterans...

It is unnecessarily disparaging and frankly we have enough stigma to deal with without ignorance like that being spouted about.

[mimi85]

77. Exactly right.

Almost all the cops I know (or women with cops for husbands) have been former military. I'd like to "support our troops" but nothing about them has changed much since the 60s and 70s. They want to hang on to that power they had in the Marines (it's usually Marines).

[Comrade Grumpy]

10. Any wagers on the likelihood of these killer cops being convicted of anything?

I didn't think so.

[BainsBane]

11. That's horrendous

A civil lawsuit isn't adequate. They need to push for criminal prosecution.

[Archae]

13. I don't trust this "Rebellious News" source.

They have an article about that Savile guy in Britain, but they call his abuse "satanic."

"Satanic" abuse was an 1980's fad, rumors spread by fundies.

A video at that site had this title:

Autism: 'Absolutely Vaccine Induced'

with Robert Bell

[progressoid]

14. Unfortunately, the story has other sources

http://www.bakersfieldcalifornian.com/local/x568091070/Dad-who-died-during-arrest-begged-for-his-life-cops-take-witness-video

http://www.sacbee.com/2013/05/09/5409439/man-killed-during-struggle-with.html

[Archae]

15. Based on those two articles...

It does look like cops were out of control.

But I still don't trust that "Rebellious News" source.

Just as I wouldn't trust Drudge.

[progressoid]

20. Agreed. There are a lot of questionable sources out there.

Better to err on the side of caution.

[cali]

65. You don't have to trust it. there's plenty of other sources saying exactly the same thing.

http://www.bakersfieldnow.com/news/local/911-call-police-officers-beat-the-expletive-out-of-him-and-kill-him-207000721.html

[frylock]

16. fuck tha police

[gopiscrap]

17. Fucking pigs this is the way almost all cops act

and those that don't, cover up and lie for those who do. Like a previous poster had said: "The cops are never your friend." So true. Every goddamn cop I had ever met was an arrogant, testosterone fed asshole who should have never had power to begin with!

[cyberswede]

26. .

[Pelican]

52. Ever think it was the situations in which you were meeting them?

Most cops I know go across the spectrum from nice to asshole and everything in between...

Just like the rest of the human race.

[newmember]

53. Maybe but DON'Tcross the thin blue line if you're even a good cop

Most cover for each other or look the other way when
one of their bothers is abusing his or her power.

It's not that there's more incidents like this in the last few years .
It's that you just hear about it more because of cameras on every phone and the internet.

Police have been doing this for a very long time.

[gopiscrap]

73. I have not had much business interaction with cops

but I lived in a very economically depressed area of an inner city for awhile and saw how disrespectful these cops were to those who were paying their salaries. Washington is sales tax state so that means EVERY BODY who buys anything from soda to alcohol to a house or car pays those salaries.

[cali]

66. no it's not. I just had an encounter with a state cop who couldn't have been nicer

he stopped me for not having a current inspection sticker. He was as respectful and well, sweet as could be. And it was really out of date. He let me go with a warning.

Maybe it's Vermont, but I've never had a negative encounter with the cops here.

[Logical]

19. Most Cops are bullies. And most are cowards. n-t

[newmember]

21. I could spend the rest of the night posting 1000's of links

Where the police have abused , assaulted , killed , shot, innocents. Wrong address no-knocks warrants where
they have abused , threatened, assaulted , even shot and killed people and their pets at the wrong address.

But I won't since many DU members think policemen are your friends.

[Logical]

25. They teach you that in school. Brainwashed. Also, google Radley Balko. Good writer. n-t

[Dragonfli]

76. They are more dangerous than the drug dealers around here, always have been

The dealers fuck with each other, the cops fuck with everyone and are above the law.

I think the people that think cops are their friends are wealthy and live in places where the cops work for them. I don't even know who they "work for" around here, they appear to dislike us all equally and love to show their power by assaulting people seemingly at random.

They do as they please, act like terrorists and are accountable to no one. They are never charged with the crimes they commit.

[AnotherMcIntosh]

30. Agreed that most cops are bullies. But most are cowards? I've never seen one that was.

How do you determine that "most are cowards"?

They attack in packs, but that doesn't make them cowards. If anything, they go looking for trouble. And they readily deliver violence.

[Occulus]

42. "They attack in packs, but that doesn't make them cowards."

Um. Yes it does.

That actually defines them as such.

[Scootaloo]

49. That's easy

1) Bullies are cowards, almost by definition.

2) the police who are not bullies, do nothing against the bullies; also cowardice.

There are no good cops. There are only cops who will beat the shit out of you for a funny look, and cops who will back them up in court.

[blackspade]

23. The fact that they conficated cameras after the beating.....

speaks to a coverup.

WTF is wrong with cops these days?
I know a handful and they tell me that they don't trust their coworkers either.
It's pretty sad that I have to teach my kids to not talk to or trust the cops.

[RedCappedBandit]

27. Coppers should not be permitted to take cameras or phones from witnesses.

[Orrex]

29. WTF is up with the password prompt that I get when I click on this thread?

[JEB]

32. I got that too. No idea.

[druidity33]

33. yeah, that was weird. nt.

[newmember]

36. just happened to me

[NYFlip]

41. Just happened to me too

[Warren DeMontague]

44. It's because of an image link you put in post #7.

I'd suggest you delete the post.

[Fumesucker]

38. I've gotten it several times and not just on this thread

Something about briancarillo dot com I think..

[Occulus]

45. It was caused by an image posted by newmember

He self-deleted. Newmember, if you're reading, I'd suggest not linking to images from there; it's giving our browsers gas.

Use photobucket or something.

[newmember]

46. I just deleted the pic I had in this thread , lets see if it stops it

[Occulus]

47. That did it.

Thanks

[newmember]

48. No problem

I didn't know I did that to the thread.

[Occulus]

50. Oh, no doubt.

I think Photobucket had that happen once. Gave people no end of heart attacks until they fixed it.

[Warren DeMontague]

61. Thanks for taking it out.

I've never seen that before. It was weird.

[JI7]

39. i got that too, didn't realize it was this until i saw your post

[kristopher]

56. It's the image in post 7.

[BlueCaliDem]

31. Isn't confiscating cameras and such during police action against the law?

Didn't we Californians vote down the proposition that police make take your cameras and such without your permission?

[damnedifIknow]

34. Another news story on this

http://morallowground.com/2013/05/10/unarmed-bakersfield-man-david-sal-silva-brutally-beaten-to-death-by-kern-county-deputies/

[BlueCaliDem]

37. Kern County = Republican stronghold.

Cops never vote Democratic Party anyway. More often than not, they're a bunch of douchebag Republicans.

Someone needs to send this to Lawrence O'Donnell and Rachel Maddow. Under that article, in the comments section, someone listed the names of the Deputies - but only seven of them, and asked if people would call the station, but these are cops. If they'll beat an innocent man to death "just cuz" and then take everyone's cell phones away to destroy evidence of their fascist/Nazi behavior, then they won't have any qualms paying those callers a visit, or having pals of theirs in other districts to pay them a visit.

Instead, they should call and write the Mayor. Last time I looked, the Mayor is their boss.

The press needs to be informed, too, and this needs to be blown wide open. If they get away with this, they'll think they're omnipotent and I have no doubt it'll go on.

[damnedifIknow]

40. I agree

Who's next? Beating someone, anyone, to death is especially savage and cruel. After Kelly Thomas I never dreamed it would happen again.

[kenny blankenship]

43. That can't be happening. That would happen in a police state

and I've seen it explained several times here that we are as far from that as anyplace on earth in the history of forever.

[Earth_First]

64. +1 nt

[villager]

35. Evidently, the penalty for being *allegedly* intoxicated in public, in Kern County, is summary

...execution.

Yeah. our "friends" the police.

[newmember]

54. I'll go one better , don't hold a golf club when you are sleeping and you door is kicked in

NOT a police state................................................read more about it here.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2011/01/18/utah-video-police-kill-man-drug-raid_n_810420.html

[Th1onein]

57. This is nothing but wholesale murder.

MURDER.

Wasn't this guy a vet? I think I remember this story. And, guess what? They found NO DRUGS.

This shit has to end.

[villager]

59. it won't end until chickenshit mayors, etc., agree to start bringing these uniformed murderers up

...on charges

[Egalitarian Thug]

74. Which they will never do because they know that their poorly paid thugs are all

that stands between them and their constituents.

[Shrike47]

60. Posts like this are so damned depressing.

I want to like and respect cops. Instead, they kind of scare me.

[Phillip McCleod]

63. looks like a job for anonymous. \n

[DLevine]

67. Horrifying, but not surprising. This is happening more often.

If we aren't already a police state, we are quickly becoming one.

[damnedifIknow]

68. I'd love to know what these so called cops are thinking

As their batons strike over and over while a person begs for their life. Who the hell are the police hiring and what are they training them to do? This wasn't just a one deranged cop that spun off into psycho land. Who or what could actually watch something like this happening let alone participate?

[DLevine]

69. They are thugs, getting paid to do what they enjoy.

They are getting away with it because the powers that be like a populace that is afraid to challenge authority. We're in a scary place, & I only see it getting worse.

[mimi85]

78. This^^

[Generic Other]

71. This should be an episode of COPS

I want to see how they brutalize the public. But mostly, I want to see what happened when they stopped beating him and instead tried to perform CPR on him. I want to see what they said to each other as they stood their looking at their handiwork. I want to know if they silently high-fived each other or whether they had a hard time making eye contact after their brutal savagery. Did they feel like real men with the blood coursing like champions under their kevlar? Did their muscles bulge in pride?

Since they tried to confiscate all the evidence (cellphones), my sense is they didn't have those feelings after their cop wilding (the practice of marauding in bands to terroize strangers and to swagger and bully).

[damnedifIknow]

75. Unreal

BAKERSFIELD, Calif. - A 911 call from a witness of David Silva's deadly arrest was obtained by 23ABC today.

In an intense call made by a witness during the struggle, a woman is heard claiming officers continued to beat David Silva with their batons when he was already unconscious.

"There's a man laying on the floor and your police officers beat the [explicit] out of him and killed him," said the woman. "I have it all on video camera."

The woman continued:

"I am sitting here on the corner of Flower and Palm right now and you have one, two, three, four, five, six, seven, eight Sheriffs. The guy was laying on the floor and eight Sheriff's ran up and started beating him up with sticks. The man is dead laying right here, right now."

http://www.turnto23.com/news/local-news/911-call-deputies-allegedly-beat-killed-david-silva

[kudzu22]

80. I wonder if 911 will send cops to stop the cops

[avebury]

81. Do you think that people with cell phones

should have the local TV news stations that have helicopters on speed dial? Imagine calling in on their news tip line and telling them exactly what you are viewing (hopefully they will be obtaining an audio tape of the phone call)? How about forwarding any pictures or videos to the local new stations as well? I think that if I lived in an area where there are a lot of known incidents of police abuse I would hope that I would try to think about how I would react if I ever find myself witnessing an event like this (I am the type of person who is always trying to think ahead). It is all about how to document what is going on and to send that info as fast as possible if you know that there is a good chance that the police will confiscate cameras or cell phones. I would be asking any tech savvy people how many places can I realistically be able to send a video before I lose my phone. I would consider having other groups programed into my phone like the ACLU, NAACP, etc. (any groups that would take incidents like this seriously).

The guy that was stuck in his house until he handed over the phone, why on earth didn't he spend the time sending his video all over the place (local news stations, CNN, MSNBC, ACLU, etc.)? Heck I would have posted it on youtube. The key is to take away any ability for the police to cover up their crime if they are able to take the phone away.

[smirkymonkey]

82. This is just horrifying!

I have no other words.

[SwankyXomb]

83. You have the right not to be killed.

Unless it was done by a policeman. - The Clash