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bigtree

(85,989 posts)
Sat May 11, 2013, 08:53 AM May 2013

They all voted no.

Last edited Sun May 12, 2013, 11:58 AM - Edit history (2)

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from ThinkProgress:

Democratic Congressman Refuses To Let Republicans Ignore GOP Security Budget Cuts In New Benghazi Hearing

Rep. Stephen Lynch (D-MA) blasted Republican efforts to renew questions into the Benghazi embassy attacks this week. As a member of the committee that will once again be hearing testimony on the attacks, Lynch categorically dismissed the persistent claim that the White House failed to provide adequate security at the Benghazi embassy.

In a heated exchange on Fox News Sunday with Chris Wallace, Lynch pointed out that Republicans voted against additional funding for embassy security when Secretary of State Hillary Clinton requested it:

LYNCH: When Secretary Clinton and the State Department asked for additional funding for embassy security, [Republicans] all voted no. They all voted no.

WALLACE: We’re getting a little bit off track now. I understand there’s an issue about security. It’s a little bit off the track. I want to stay on course here –

LYNCH: No, this is the point. They’re complaining about a lack of security at the embassies after they voted against funding for security at the embassies. Is that not related?


Rep. Jason Chaffetz (R-UT), a primary driver of these new hearings, was one of the lawmakers who voted to cut nearly $300 million from the embassy security budget. Chaffetz shot back that funding had “nothing to do” with security . . .


read/watch clip: http://thinkprogress.org/politics/2013/05/05/1964651/lynch-benghazi-budget-cuts/

vlh ‏@coton_luver 1h
@joanwalsh Issa cuts $331 mill in Embassy Security. http://bit.ly/10qCui1 . 60 Embassy deaths under GW Bush. pic.twitter.com/VlY3dnxi8I.#GOP


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They all voted no. (Original Post) bigtree May 2013 OP
Chris Wallace is SUCH an ass. annabanana May 2013 #1
I remember when Bill Clinton madokie May 2013 #2
Chris Wallace is such an effin' ass-wipe and a second-rate partisan hack indepat May 2013 #25
Facts? We don't need no steenkin' facts. hobbit709 May 2013 #3
HIt them the fuck harder. Baitball Blogger May 2013 #4
Rep. Lynch did a wonderful thing. He went into the lion's lair and roared. BlueCaliDem May 2013 #5
SoS Clinton did not call them out because it did not happen. former9thward May 2013 #9
Actually, it did happen. BlueCaliDem May 2013 #19
Yes they proposed it. former9thward May 2013 #21
That's a rightwing myth. Did you forget the 2011 Budget Control Act? BlueCaliDem May 2013 #23
I wish people would read links they post. former9thward May 2013 #24
I wish people would stop parroting the old Republican myth. BlueCaliDem May 2013 #30
I guess the American Prospect is also part of the "republican lie machine". former9thward May 2013 #33
Republicanism is Magical: Security is Produced by Magical Dust, not Actual Money Funding alcibiades_mystery May 2013 #6
I'm with you all the way.. pangaia May 2013 #11
Darrell Issa voted NO as well. JaneyVee May 2013 #7
I live next to Issa's district (used to be in it) in Ken Calvert's district, xtraxritical May 2013 #13
Tell me about it nadinbrzezinski May 2013 #16
If the Democrats didn't fund the FAA recently Life Long Dem May 2013 #8
here it is zerosumgame0005 May 2013 #10
OH MAN, I remember that..... pangaia May 2013 #12
"Big Dog did a lot of good shit and some bad shit" and he sure can lift his leg on Wallace. xtraxritical May 2013 #14
Boy I enjoyed that... pangaia May 2013 #15
Hey, ^that^. :-) xtraxritical May 2013 #18
What I want to see is Wallace and Blitzer on Jeopardy together. L0oniX May 2013 #20
Oh you stupid little right wing insects Generic Other May 2013 #17
ahem ... napkinz May 2013 #22
There's the story. Octafish May 2013 #26
Video Dman292 May 2013 #27
facts, facts, facts sarisataka May 2013 #28
Good for him. freshwest May 2013 #29
Post removed Post removed May 2013 #31
"Off-track..." Bwahaha! Try "owned" n/t dogknob May 2013 #32
It's Chris Wallace's job to get it off track... lame54 May 2013 #34
Cutting the Embassy Security Budget had nothing to do with security? MrScorpio May 2013 #35
If funding has nothing to do with security... lame54 May 2013 #36
DU Rec... SidDithers May 2013 #37
Great graphic! Thanks for posting WhaTHellsgoingonhere May 2013 #38
kick napkinz May 2013 #39
This should be the talking polnt for every Democrat kentuck May 2013 #40

madokie

(51,076 posts)
2. I remember when Bill Clinton
Sat May 11, 2013, 09:01 AM
May 2013

handed wallace that ass of his on a platter.
I wish I had a link to that as it was something to behold.

Baitball Blogger

(46,700 posts)
4. HIt them the fuck harder.
Sat May 11, 2013, 09:32 AM
May 2013

THEY were responsible for the lack of security. Point. Set and Match.

Who holds the purse strings makes the decisions. This is known everywhere.

BlueCaliDem

(15,438 posts)
5. Rep. Lynch did a wonderful thing. He went into the lion's lair and roared.
Sat May 11, 2013, 10:11 AM
May 2013

The Know-Nothings who watch Faux News Channel are now hearing the truth, even if it will take weeks to sink through the rightwing bubble around their heads in order to reach their brains.

This had to be said. The Republicans crow and whine about lack of security at the embassies, but even SoS Clinton pointed out that they didn't receive the funding for it, although she stopped short of calling out that it were the Republicans who voted no and cut nearly $400 million.

Chaffetz is a major asswipe. If he believes funding has nothing to do it with, then he can say that giving more tax breaks to the "job creators" has nothing to do with creating jobs, no?

Republicans are useless, and a stain on the American people and politics.

former9thward

(31,986 posts)
9. SoS Clinton did not call them out because it did not happen.
Sat May 11, 2013, 10:48 AM
May 2013

The cuts were never passed. They were sent to the Senate where it died.

BlueCaliDem

(15,438 posts)
19. Actually, it did happen.
Sat May 11, 2013, 03:20 PM
May 2013

Although the House slashed funding, the Senate was able to restore much of it but still fell some $200 million short of the requested funds.

In Thursday’s hearings, Democratic Sens. Barbara Boxer (CA), Robert Menendez (NJ), and Bob Casey (PA) didn’t shy away from recalling the effect Republican gutting of the State Department budget in the past Congress has had on diplomatic security. Boxer pointed out that the Obama administration requested $2.6 billion for the State Department in 2012, which the House of Representatives slashed. While the Senate was able to restore the a large amount of funding requested, State still wound up $200 million short over the last two years.

http://thinkprogress.org/security/2012/12/20/1366171/benghazi-review-restore-gop-cuts/


Clinton repeated her call for more funding during Benghazi hearings in January. Belatedly, House Republicans announced support for restored embassy security funding in order to off-set sequestration budget cuts.
http://thinkprogress.org/politics/2013/05/05/1964651/lynch-benghazi-budget-cuts/

I do recall she had called them out on it. I'll have to look at the tapes again, though. But fact remains, House Republicans *had* proposed to cut the budget

former9thward

(31,986 posts)
21. Yes they proposed it.
Sat May 11, 2013, 03:38 PM
May 2013

But the U.S. has not had a budget passed for years now. It operates on a series of continuing resolutions which are agreed to by a majority in both parties.

former9thward

(31,986 posts)
24. I wish people would read links they post.
Sat May 11, 2013, 05:11 PM
May 2013

The "Budget control act" was not a budget. It was a tweaking on future spending. The last time an actual budget was passed by Congress and signed by the president was 1997. Continuing resolutions ever since.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-srv/politics/special/budget/stories/080697.htm

BlueCaliDem

(15,438 posts)
30. I wish people would stop parroting the old Republican myth.
Sun May 12, 2013, 03:48 AM
May 2013

The Budget Control Act is actually stronger than a normal budget resolution.

Budget Committee Chairman Kent Conrad (D-N.D.) has maintained that the Budget Control Act passed last year to resolve the debt ceiling standoff is better than a normal budget resolution. It's actually budget law, he said -- the portion of the "fiscal cliff" that comes from spending cuts.
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/12/15/republicans-budget-stall-senate_n_2303345.html


Now stop parroting the old Republican lie. I say old Republican lie because they're completely changed their tune and now speak of the Budget Control Act as the budget.

Lately, however, the Republican senators have been citing the Budget Control Act as if it is a budget to block legislation, raising budget "points of order" on measures that spend more than authorized in the Budget Control Act. By Senate rules, such a point of order requires 60 votes to waive, much the same as overcoming a filibuster.

Perhaps the most vigorous adherent of the point-of-order strategy is Sen. Jeff Sessions (R-Ala.), the top Republican on the Budget Committee.

He raised a number of objections Thursday, stymying attempts to pass legislation to extend extra federal backing of large bank transactions.

“We will adhere to the budget agreement that we made with the American people 16 months ago,” Sessions said after his point of order succeeded, referring to the Budget Control Act.


Need I remind you that this is the Democratic Underground, not Drudge Report?

former9thward

(31,986 posts)
33. I guess the American Prospect is also part of the "republican lie machine".
Sun May 12, 2013, 11:26 AM
May 2013

Is there anyone in YOUR world who isn't? The last time the U.S. passed a real budget was in 1997.

http://prospect.org/article/does-congress-even-need-pass-budget

 

alcibiades_mystery

(36,437 posts)
6. Republicanism is Magical: Security is Produced by Magical Dust, not Actual Money Funding
Sat May 11, 2013, 10:16 AM
May 2013

GOP: We needed more security for the embassies and State facilities!

The Sane: But you cut $300 million from the budget.

GOP: That's irrelevant! That's not the issue!

-------------------------

They're so fond of their stupid little "If you ran your household like this" analogies, let's try it out here:

GOP: We needed to do more routine maintenance to the house!

The Sane: But you cut $1000 out of our house maintenance budget!

GOP: That's irrelevant! We still needed more maintenance!

UM, huh?

pangaia

(24,324 posts)
11. I'm with you all the way..
Sat May 11, 2013, 11:58 AM
May 2013

But.. former9thward above says that the cuts never happened because they died in the Senate. ??
I'm just trying to find as much accurate info as I can to fend off arguments from several republican (rather moderate) friends.. One guy works for me, is intelligent, great guy..refers to himself as a 'red-neck with human leanings." :&gt

He CAN BE educated and influenced, if I do it right..

 

xtraxritical

(3,576 posts)
13. I live next to Issa's district (used to be in it) in Ken Calvert's district,
Sat May 11, 2013, 12:09 PM
May 2013

Issa is the "barking dog" distraction that allows Calvert to covertly do the dirty work. Corruption is rampant in this area, remember Cunningham and the other crooked congressman from S.D., same area.

 

nadinbrzezinski

(154,021 posts)
16. Tell me about it
Sat May 11, 2013, 12:39 PM
May 2013

We cover SD politics.

Don't expect the UT to accidentally cover this though

You must live in Riverside though.



Sort of close

 

Life Long Dem

(8,582 posts)
8. If the Democrats didn't fund the FAA recently
Sat May 11, 2013, 10:42 AM
May 2013

And a plane crashed, we would never hear the end of it. The Republicans would be hammering this. Yet not one word about the Republicans not funding Benghazi. Go figure.

pangaia

(24,324 posts)
12. OH MAN, I remember that.....
Sat May 11, 2013, 12:08 PM
May 2013

Puurrricelesss....!!

The Big Dog did a lot of good shit and some bad shit, but he sure could lay out what was what...!

 

L0oniX

(31,493 posts)
20. What I want to see is Wallace and Blitzer on Jeopardy together.
Sat May 11, 2013, 03:25 PM
May 2013


I have an idea that they'd make good team mates.

sarisataka

(18,621 posts)
28. facts, facts, facts
Sat May 11, 2013, 05:48 PM
May 2013

Pshaw.

Mr Chaffertz should prove his point and place a bill to cut congressional security budget by 80%. It will show how there us No link between funding and security...

Response to bigtree (Original post)

lame54

(35,287 posts)
34. It's Chris Wallace's job to get it off track...
Sun May 12, 2013, 11:31 AM
May 2013

of the real story

and keep it on the pre determined narrative express

MrScorpio

(73,630 posts)
35. Cutting the Embassy Security Budget had nothing to do with security?
Sun May 12, 2013, 11:33 AM
May 2013

Only in that weird little world that Republicans live in.

kentuck

(111,079 posts)
40. This should be the talking polnt for every Democrat
Sun May 12, 2013, 01:05 PM
May 2013

Fight fire with fire. If the Repubs had voted for more security, maybe they could have saved those people??

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