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Nick Hanauer talks for six minutes on why the rich arent the job creators and as someone worth $1 billion USD, he knows a bit about the rich.
Unfortunately, as you can see, the video isnt even partisan. Both Democrats and Republicans operate under the assumption that the rich are job creators, and thats because, as mentioned in another talk, this time by Lawrence Lessig, politicians on the national level have to go through two electoral processes to get into office. Yes, they are voted on by the people. However, before that, they also have to win funding, and that means the rich pick which politicians run for major offices. Until we change campaign finance laws that isnt going to change. In fact, the myopic vision of Congress is going to get worse, because the rich demand their attention.
And it isnt a partisan problem. Even a third party, at a congressional level, would be controlled by the same wealthy influences, because without the money to campaign, they wouldnt get the notoriety necessary to get the votes. The funders vote before the voters do, meaning that, by definition, well-known candidates are heavily influenced by wealthy interests. Once again, we cant change that without reforming campaign finance laws.
Read more: http://www.addictinginfo.org/2013/05/11/banned-ted-talk-job-creator-myth/#ixzz2T0zaqR00
Lawrence Lessig's video, We the People and the Republic We Must Reclaim is also an excellent talk .
Lawrence Lessig has already transformed intellectual-property law with his Creative Commons innovation. Now he's focused on an even bigger problem: The US' broken political system
Robb
(39,665 posts)octoberlib
(14,971 posts)Whatever. Addicting Info tends to be hyperbolic.
lumberjack_jeff
(33,224 posts)It's probably one of the top 10 TED videos (even though it's only available on YouTube) There are only a couple that I'd recommend higher and I've watched a bunch of them.
His talk is not on the site because they don't want to alienate funders.
octoberlib
(14,971 posts)It's one of the best ones I've seen too.
Posteritatis
(18,807 posts)rocktivity
(44,573 posts)under pressure of being called out on it.
http://www.democraticunderground.com/101628527
P.S. You're a year behind the DU learning curve.
rocktivity
rhett o rick
(55,981 posts)It was chosen not to be aired. The question is why? And I dont accept the answer given. Do you?
NAO
(3,425 posts)to a conservative about the role of redistribution. It makes plain sense and is the best I've seen/heard/read on this topic.
Festivito
(13,452 posts)WillyT
(72,631 posts)99th_Monkey
(19,326 posts)in order to be A US Citizen
Martin Eden
(12,862 posts)And he spelled it out in a simple and straightfprward manner that even a teahat should be able to understand.
99th_Monkey
(19,326 posts)It's always so revealing when people get scared of the truth.
Initech
(100,059 posts)Case in point: while the world's economy collapsed, the fortunes of Charles and David Koch quadrupled.
OneGrassRoot
(22,920 posts)Hopefully it can be seen far and wide after the HBO contract is up. It's a must-see.
http://www.americanwinterfilm.com/
Overseas
(12,121 posts)octoberlib
(14,971 posts)I'll keep an eye out for it, if they're still showing it.
Dustlawyer
(10,495 posts)COMPLETE CAMPAIGN FINANCE REFORM (CCFR)!!! All our other complaints about gun policy, gay marriage, climate change... Will not be dealt with properly until, and unless we get CCFR!
Egalitarian Thug
(12,448 posts)Set campaign season time, taxpayer financed with an absolute budget, and I'd require media to contribute exposure to all candidates during that time at no charge. Just ban all private money from the whole process.
Under this system, when a citizen gets so fed up with the theater that they are moved to participate directly, it is possible.
Next step, rid this nation of its House of Lords and expand the Parliament.
Dustlawyer
(10,495 posts)candidate.
Egalitarian Thug
(12,448 posts)They are shielded from power and constitute a protected class. Informing the public for a few weeks every other year is a small price to pay for their privilege.
Nye Bevan
(25,406 posts)You would need a major constitutional amendment to do that here.
octoberlib
(14,971 posts)Delmette
(522 posts)Before you vote!
love_katz
(2,578 posts)This needs to go VIRAL.
Lets help it do that. Go, DUers!
Rex
(65,616 posts)He walks us through our 30 years of plutocracy. Amazing man.
deutsey
(20,166 posts)Rex
(65,616 posts)That is going into bookmarks.
Ruby the Liberal
(26,219 posts)Listening to the Amy Goodman interview now. I like this guy.
octoberlib
(14,971 posts)rocktivity
(44,573 posts)octoberlib
(14,971 posts)Accept money from corporate or wealthy donors and it influences your actions.
truedelphi
(32,324 posts)Both parties are in cahoots with the agenda of the Upper One Percent, you realize how broken the situation is.
The Federal Reserve is allowed to be the cookie jar for Wall Street, and the creator of serial "bubbles" at the expense of the middle class, and even at the expense of those who are millionaires but somewhat out of the loop in terms of "Insider Congressional Information."
Anyway thank you for posting this banned "TED Talk."
xtraxritical
(3,576 posts)ProSense
(116,464 posts)"the rich are job creators"
...the primary problem with economic policy. It was the basis of the debate around the Bush tax cuts. Those who buy into it do everything they can to push tax cuts and loopholes for the rich and corporations, deregulation and privatization.
AAO
(3,300 posts)It's demand first, then the supply is created to satisfy the demand. In order to create the supply, you need to hire employees. As long as we put demand last, we put the people last.
Honeycombe8
(37,648 posts)When I voted aganst him, I voted against that, I guess. As did you, and her, and him, and millions of others. But that was the chance. He was a lone voice on that issue. He later changed his stance...the far right got to him. But there was a time....
Starfury
(812 posts)Here are a couple Business Insider articles, definitely worth reading:
Finally, A Rich American Destroys The Fiction That Rich People Create The Jobs
A Message From Us Rich Plutocrats To All You Little People
octoberlib
(14,971 posts)FarCenter
(19,429 posts)The only group that disproportionately creates jobs is startups, says Ron Jarmin, assistant director for research and methodology at the U.S. Census Bureau and coauthor of that research paper, titled Who Creates Jobs? Small vs. Large Vs. Young.
Startups account for only about 3 percent of U.S. employment, but they are responsible for nearly 20 percent of the gross number of jobs created year to year, according to Jarmin and his coauthors. And the net new jobs from startups can be credited for all the job growth in the U.S. over a stretch of roughly three decades starting in the late 1970s, according to Robert Litan, vice president for research and policy at the Kauffman Foundation, which promotes entrepreneurship. Thats because while other businesses both create jobs and destroy them as they grow and shrink in a changing economy, startups by definition only add workers initially.
Many of those startups will fail, of course, and kill off jobs in the process, but some new businesses that survive go on to thrive and growthink Google, Facebook, or Grouponrapidly adding lots of employees. That historic importance of young businesses may be why Obama made a point of specifically mentioning startups along with small businesses his remarks last week.
Read more at http://www.thefiscaltimes.com/Articles/2011/08/29/The-Myth-of-the-Small-Business-Job-Engine.aspx
So the "small businesses are the job creators" mantra of the GOP is also bullshit. The businesses that create jobs are the startups that grow to be medium or large businesses.
Most small businesses start small, stay small, hire and fire for years, and eventually die.
octoberlib
(14,971 posts)" small businesses won't be able to hire if we raise their taxes." And they always emphasize small businesses , never large corporations because they want to make it seem like they're looking out for the little guy. What bs. Interesting article. Thanks!
Ruby the Liberal
(26,219 posts)not the top down.
Thanks for finding/posting this. Watched it twice.
K&R
Overseas
(12,121 posts)Perhaps TED folks think their elite audience already knows that.
And maybe they do, but we need more action to correct this major design flaw in our economy and stop the lying, so it needs to be said in these gatherings.
KoKo
(84,711 posts)blackspade
(10,056 posts)grandpamike1
(193 posts)His book The Gardens Of Democracy for a more in depth analysis.
octoberlib
(14,971 posts)Fuddnik
(8,846 posts)dotymed
(5,610 posts)This would make it much harder for the 1% to control candidates. It would also give us an opening for electoral finance reform.
savebigbird
(417 posts)I've been thinking this for a while, and now I know how to articulate it more eloquently.
Nika
(546 posts)octoberlib
(14,971 posts)It sounds like Hanauer is working to change things by endowing university chairs. We definitely need people combating Koch's influence in economic departments.
harun
(11,348 posts)rhett o rick
(55,981 posts)to take care of the rest of us. I think we should just go with that and forget the supply-side crap.
rhett o rick
(55,981 posts)It would be interesting to know what the process is for selecting what should be published. Also, we should probably look into who sponsors TED.
octoberlib
(14,971 posts)Hanauer said he was told by Ted organizers that the talk was too political and controversial.
rhett o rick
(55,981 posts)I am new to TED and thinks it sounds like a good idea. But I can see how they might not want to be forced into publishing everyone's opinion. For example should they give time to Glen Beck?
I checked out their website but couldnt find anything about how they screen speakers.
colsohlibgal
(5,275 posts)I admire then so much as they plead "please tax me!" ala Warren Buffett.
The problem is we have too many Gordon Gekko disciples. Greed piggies in the trough.
We need a true progressive tax structure in the US. As I see it, the mistake the left tends to make is lumping everyone with income at $400,000 or above in one bracket. I think someone in Warren Buffett's range should pay a considerably higher rate.
Do that, add a VAT, legalize and tax pot, pare the military funding down from overkill, slash the heck out of it and we'll still be safe as we can be. People out of work from the pare down of the military can be put to work right away fixing our crumbling infrastructure and fixing up our state and national parks.
Win-win-win etc. The suffering? Some Richie Riches getting by with 83 million rather than 110 million. I understand that will be tough for them, but I doubt people now eating cat food so they can have that 110 million would shed a tear.
Electric Monk
(13,869 posts)closeupready
(29,503 posts)Thanks.