Do you think the House will impeach this fall? I do but... the Senate will acquit.

[CK_John]

I just worry about how Obama will handle this slap down. I would not blame him if he resigned.

[flying rabbit]

1. Wait...

Wut?

[NYC_SKP]

2. None of the above...

...are going to happen.

IMHO

[CK_John]

5. You really don't think they will, after just telling us they would???

[NYC_SKP]

11. You mean Inhofe, Sensenbrenner, that crew?

Hell, this is just noise, that's all.

Don't listen to it.

[CK_John]

15. The House Committee is part of the buildup, not just to scare Hillary from running.

I don't beliieve she will anyway. The teabag wing will push this thru just after Labor Day if not sooner.

[Cal33]

62. The Republicans have nothing to impeach Obama for, but they'll invent something or

other. The Democrats had everything to impeach Bush with (including
for lying our nation into an unjust war with Iraq), BUT the Democrats
did not impeach him -- even when it was their duty to do so for his
criminal acts.

Go figure! One is as crazy as the other!

I think 90% of our Congress needs to be replaced with entirely new
people.

[Chan790]

70. No, they are not going to.

If they take the Senate in 2014 and hold the House? Maybe.

...but now or soon? No f**king way. They have to have learned their lesson last time...they'll come out looking terrible if they impeach and cannot convict in the Senate; even safe seats will be at-risk for them in both chambers of Congress. It'll be even worse for them than last time because if they lose the House and the Senate in the aftermath of it, they'll likely be out of power for the long-term due to demographic shifts.

[JimDandy]

3. I would not blame any poster that

slaps you down...figuratively of course.

[MannyGoldstein]

4. They won't impeach

And Obama will certainly never resign. The only time he fights for anything is when it's about his personal ambitions.

[SammyWinstonJack]

10. ...

[senseandsensibility]

43. The rest of this thread is sound and fury signifying nothing (especially the OP)

but you somehow distilled it into something true and witty. Perfect response.

[LuvNewcastle]

72. Best post of the day.

[demwing]

82. They _might_ impeach

They certainly may try...but on what grounds?

No grounds? Well, that problem didn't stop them when they went after Clinton. They created a national crisis out of a family issue.

Do you get the feeling that Republicans learn from their mistakes?

[MannyGoldstein]

84. They can impeach for any reason they want

There's no official list of reasons. It was purposely kept vague by the Founders.

But no Dems will vote for impeachment, and at least some Republicans will have learned from the catastrophic attempt on Clinton. At least that's my guess.

[demwing]

85. I guess what it comes down to

is a trust in the ability of Republicans Tea Partiers to learn from past mistakes.

[emulatorloo]

86. +1

The jackasses are still trying to repeal Obamacare.

[MannyGoldstein]

88. The Tea Partiers will never learn

But the small contingent of clever-but-evil Republicans will. I think.

In any case, no big whoop. The Senate won't agree.

And if the Senate does agree, we get President Biden. Can't imagine that would be worse than the status quo.

[Ohio Joe]

6. oh do tell...

I am stoned out of my gourd and would be amused to hear more on this... And please have something original.

[ProSense]

9. This OP

"I am stoned out of my gourd and would be amused to hear more on this... And please have something original."

...makes me wish I could say "me too."

[madokie]

24. No kid'n

[smackd]

29. i can...me, too. lol

[demwing]

80. Link please

[Jamastiene]

92. Perfect response. n/t

[cliffordu]

7. Thanks for your concern!!!

We'll love you until you can love yourself!

[SammyWinstonJack]

8. eh?

[Liberal_in_LA]

12. troll

[dem in texas]

13. Who are you?

Go watch Fox and quit wasting our time.

[Tx4obama]

14. LOL! President Obama will never resign, especially not over GOP BS. n/t

[CK_John]

16. Why not? Should he just hangout at Camp David for 3 yr and not be able to do anything.

[Tx4obama]

17. President Obama is not a member of Congress. There are tons of things he has control of and does...

... that has nothing to do with Congress.

Perhaps you should visit WhiteHouse.gov more often to see what President Obama HAS been doing instead of focusing on only the things that Congress is obstructing

Main page: http://www.whitehouse.gov/
Statements and Releases: http://www.whitehouse.gov/briefing-room/statements-and-releases

[DevonRex]

23. Huh?

Because he would be acquitted. And would be the president the whole time they're acting like assholes. Like Clinton was.

[Brother Buzz]

18. Only in a republican's wet dream

[CK_John]

20. With a 30+ seat advantage, they will impeach.

[jeff47]

30. And then lose in the Senate, when the trial shows their charges are full of shit.

It worked very poorly for them last time. It would work very poorly for them again.

[cali]

37. like the rest of your predictions- and they're all nutty- this one will

not happen.

[orleans]

38. do a lot of crystal gazing?

[backscatter712]

69. And then get bitchslapped down.

The odds of the Senate voting to convict an Obama impeachment are zero.

I doubt that even the Rethugs are stupid enough to go through with an impeachment - it's certain to backfire.

[winter is coming]

19. Why on Earth would he resign?

[CK_John]

22. Because if you can't get a EPA head appointed, why hang around?

[cali]

41. egad. anyone who thinks that Obama will resign because

he can't get an appointment confirmed, is living in delusion world.

[winter is coming]

60. And you're imagining Obama will be replaced by whom?

If you think the Republicans won't obstruct Biden, you're wrong.

[rightsideout]

21. Impeach, on what grounds?

The idiots on the GOP side have been saying the "Impeach" word three months after he first took office, over nothing. And today there is still nothing to Impeach over.

[CK_John]

25. You just need the vote, but the car thief rep is going to genup a case.

[rightsideout]

27. Vote for what?

Impeachment on what grounds? There has to be a reason. Nothing they have holds water.

Maybe they want Biden in as Prez because he's white.

[jeff47]

31. Which would then have to go to the Senate.

Impeachment is only the first step. The 2nd step is a trial in the Senate, where 2/3rds of the senators have to vote to convict in order to remove the president from office.

That Senate trial would put Republican BS on display in gory detail. Just like it did when they impeached Clinton. What happened? Republicans lost seats.

If they want to impeach, our response should be "Bring it".

[emulatorloo]

87. What happened? They manufactured "Clinton Fatigue"

[jeff47]

90. And since they were trying to run on "Clinton Rage", that was a good thing for our party. (nt)

[emulatorloo]

93. Except for the whole Bush Gore Florida debacle.

[jeff47]

94. Which was caused by Gore's campaign full of morons.

The folks running Gore's campaign bought into the idea that Clinton was tainted.

They were apparently so dumb they couldn't quite notice that the voters punished the Republicans for attacking Clinton.

[dballance]

26. Nope. They Won't. It would be even more stupid than their usual hijinks

There is absolutely no reason to draw up articles of impeachment. They have nothing, nothing on which impeachment could be drawn.

[jberryhill]

28. Do they have time in between repealing Obamacare and outlawing federal funds for abortion?

They've got to do both of those more often than a junkie needs smack.

[wercal]

32. No...this is really about Clinton 2016

[Lil Missy]

33. Are you drinking, or just trying to stir shit?

[rl6214]

34. Won't happen

I don't think.

[CakeGrrl]

35. What the huh?

[Douglas Carpenter]

36. only if they come up a real gotcha type of thing - like they did with Clinton - otherwise they can't

As dumb as it was to impeach Clinton over having sexual relations with Monica Lewinsky and lying about it - The fact is Bill Clinton did have sexual relations with Monica Lewinsky and lied about it. They tried and tried for years before anyone heard of Monica Lewinsky to build something out of the whole "White Water" thing and the various issues that surrounded it - But there simply was no there -- there. Only with Monica Lewinsky did they come up with something definite and positive that they could say - gotcha. So far, there is nothing surrounding the whole Bengazi issue or any other issue that comprises a gotcha.

[CK_John]

42. Funny listing to George Will pushing for impeachment on the morning show. Using the paper drawn

to impeach Nixon, if he didn't quit, by the committee that Hillary was the chief legal aid.

The GOP has a long memory.

[billh58]

61. You DO know that

impeachment is only an indictment -- like a grand jury finding, don't you? The House does not determine guilt or innocence, they only bring "charges."

The Senate then conducts a trial to determine the validity of the charges, and will conduct a vote in open session to remove the president from office. It requires a 2/3 majority of the Senate to remove the president from office.

Ain't gonna happen Bubba...

[CK_John]

63. The OP clearly states the House will impeach and teh Senate will acquit.

[billh58]

64. Then calm down

Bubba. President Obama isn't going anywhere because some fucking teabaggers are making shit up.

[Warren DeMontague]

39. Yeah, right.

Hey- remember those 1998 Midterms? I do.

[Bolo Boffin]

40. God, I sure hope so.

(not the Obama resigning part)

It would be nice to own the House and Senate again in 2014.

[LostOne4Ever]

44. Shakes Magic 8-ball

"All signs point to Not Bloody likely"

[CK_John]

47. Listen to Issa on Meet the Press building the case they will use. They have the votes.

Will they use it? Why not, a 50/50 chance (yes/no) and nothing to lose.

You can't shame the shameless.

[LostOne4Ever]

65. They have everything to lose

Spending political capital on a blatantly partisan act doomed to fail and waste tax payer money will cost them seats in the house and the senate and would only make Obama look better.

Further, they can only impeach on cases of treason, bribery, and other high crimes and misdemeanors. What crimes or misdemeanors are they going to impeach on?

Issa and those other idiots are just saber rattling.

[DCBob]

45. Why would he or anyone resign over bogus accusations?

nonsense.

[WinkyDink]

46. "I would not blame him if he resigned." BWAHAHAHAHA! OH, WOULDN'T YOU, NOW?

GO AWAY.

[CK_John]

49. Frustration is a powerful reason, especially if you're driven to get things done.

The POTUS can only do what the Congress will fund and approve.

Head in the sand is not good for your vision.

[JHB]

76. Resignation would be seen as admission the charades were right...

Nixon resigned because he knew he'd lose impeachment proceedings in both house and Senate and be removed from office if he tried to stay.

Screw frustration, it's a "legacy" matter. His legacy, to be specific. If there's one thing he can be counted on to protect, it's "Brand Obama".

People recognized the vendetta against Clinton. If they try it again, it will fail even more.

[WinkyDink]

95. Oh, please! A President RESIGN out of "frustration"?! Yeah, and QEII will abdicate. NOT!!

[MineralMan]

48. There will be no impeachment.

Believe it.

[CK_John]

50. It's their only chance to get him out and I believe they will try it.

[MineralMan]

51. You're wrong. As stupid as the Republicans are,

they won't do it. If they do, it will be the end of the GOP. Boehner will not allow it to happen.

[CK_John]

52. You have more faith in his leadership ability to control the tea wingers in the house, than I.

[MineralMan]

53. There aren't enough tea party House members to

pass any impeachment. You do not seem to be thinking very hard about this. That makes me wonder what you would like to happen, frankly.

The Republican Party has been stung by one impeachment, and thoroughly rebuked for that one. They aren't about to do that again to a popular President. The Tea Party is not in that much control, frankly. You are mistaken.

[NYC Liberal]

66. Last time they tried, they lost seats in the midterms

(that almost NEVER happens for the opposition party), and they lost the presidency in 2000.

[graham4anything]

54. I think there are some democratic voices (that aren't democratic party people actually)

would want to fracture the party

and some who have ulterior motives and attempt to win both houses in 2014

and some Obama haters and Hillary haters that want to stop both of them and know that in 2016 there is no one else who can assuredly win 100 million votes and 475 electoral votes

But if democratic people stop talking about this, in the headlines, this story would be a 5 day and gone story.

Hillary already kicked their ass once.
And the focus is on Hillary and not the President.

I thought anyhow that the law of unintended consequences was so strong in 1963 that never again would a President be taken out of office by any means.
(that being that a far more liberal LBJ came in and devistated all enemies by doing what he did with getting the voting right/civil rights, and all the social acts through.)

Impeachment talk should be forever off the table.
Let the President free reign during his 8 years, and if not liked after 4, vote them out.

If the people by choice vote, and are seated, then let that be the end all.

All it does is waste people's time

Nixon should have just finished his term btw. Without that happened, we got Reagan and the Bush's.
Had Nixon limped on, his party would have been destroyed in 1976 anyhow and the democratic party would have been alot stronger.
What good did Ford do?Nixon was a far better president than Ford, who's only accomplishment was to screw NY and to pardon nixon.

[nadinbrzezinski]

55. They are moving there, have since six weeks into the first term

This is how long they have been looking for something that will "stick."

It is a democrat in the WH and we need revenge for tricky dick.

So even if they do, will be sound, fury and all that.

These Republicans will try the I with any democrat in the WH.

Like Clinton the senate will slap down unless they wait until they got control of the senate as well.

This is not Benghazi, or the scandal DU jour, it is a democrat in the WH.

The president won't resign, and let's assume he did, that is the cowards way out with a bunch of people who cannot accept a democrat in the WH.

[trackfan]

56. I don't think they'll be that stupid. It would hand us victory in 2014.

But I could be wrong. They might just be that stupid.

[nadinbrzezinski]

57. I have had the privilege to talk to Issa

As part of the job...yes, he is that detached from reality.

I agree with the OP...they will...my view wait until after they also got the Senate...but they have been looking for something six weeks into the first term.

[CK_John]

58. It is not being stupid but a political plan in the process of being executed.

The GOP doesn't care how you or anyone else feels about it.

Look at the outcome in SC for the most recent example. They (the money group) make a plan for the GOP and it is followed by their lockstep devotees.

[LWolf]

59. No.

I don't think they will. And I have little interest in whether they do, or they don't.

Blame him? I'd be thrilled if he resigned, if I thought Biden would step away from neoliberalism and from "compromising" with Republicans. I'm skeptical, though. We wouldn't get anything better than what we've got, so what would be the point?

[alcibiades_mystery]

67. ROFL

So foolish.

[backscatter712]

68. If the House impeaches, it will be on a party-line vote, which makes the GOP's game obvious.

And that's if they decide to impeach. The way that Benghazi! Benghazi! Benghazi! has failed to show the President to be guilty of anything resembling a high crime or misdemeanor, even Boehner's likely to muzzle impeachment proceedings as certain to backfire.

Assuming Boehner's dumb enough to go through with an impeachment, when it goes to the Senate, the impeachment will die, with another party-line vote to acquit, possibly with some Republicans also voting to acquit.

President Obama will not resign - he knows perfectly well that impeachment talk is nothing more than the usual Republican circus antics. And then the Democrats will counterattack, in a way designed to coincide with the 2014 elections, which could thoroughly punish the GOP for their dumbfuckery.

[GoCubsGo]

73. If it happens, and then goes to the Senate...

...the Majority Leader does not even have to take it up, if he does not wish to. I can't see Harry Reid even wasting his time with it, let alone allow it to go up for a vote. But, I think you are right in that it probably won't even make it past Boehner.

[Old and In the Way]

71. I hope they do.

The vast majority of Americans aren't up to speed on Benghazi. But let them try to impeach Obama over this...then we'll get to have a full vetting of this nothing burger. We can discuss the republican budget that killed $300MM of funding and we can ask why these same people didn't impeach Bush about 9/11 and the 14 attacks on US Embassies under his watch. I doubt any of these hacks really want to go down this road...they can talk a lot but there won't be anyone wanting to really put their chips down on this loser of a political fight.

[GoCubsGo]

74. Me, too.

I remember how well things went over when they pulled this shit on Bill Clinton. They're already on the brink of oblivion, with their 10% approval ratings. People are pissed off at them for their constant recesses, and for not working on things like job creation. If they want to waste their time and taxpayer dollars on a blatantly partisan witch hunt, instead of doing their fucking job, I say "Go for it!" The faster the GOP self-immolates, the better off this country will be.

[Old and In the Way]

89. Totally with you

You have to be a total fucking moron to vote Republican.

[LiberalFighter]

75. Only a loser would resign.

And Obama is not a loser.

If the impeach Obama he and the Democrats will use it against the Republicans in the upcoming elections.

[steve2470]

77. In 1998 they had very very flimsy grounds to go on...this time there's not even THAT

They won't impeach. Boehner won't allow it, and as others have said, they'd be decimated in 2014.

Friendly word of advice: I'd think a lot more carefully about this kind of thing before you make another thread... just saying. You might even want to self-delete and humbly apologize.

[Dwayne Hicks]

78. This is absurd

What will you impeach him for? He has committed no crime. At worst he blamed a you tube video instead of terrorists. Big deal.

[Skittles]

79. I hardly see a witchhunt as a "slap down"

it would be a dog and pony show and he would handle it just fine

[Thinkingabout]

81. Larry Flynt will dump information on Issa and a few others and they will run and hide

Flynt dumped information on those big into getting Clinton impeached and vowed to continue outing the repubs until it was stopped. Several went down and the music ended. Don't worry about impeachment, this is just a mud hole and if they really had the goods with the "whistle blowers" it would have been revealed. It's not there, they don't have the goods because they can't invent and rewrite what happened.

[FarPoint]

83. Larry Flynt is a hero of activism.

He steps up to the challenge and wins the good fight.

[Jamastiene]

91. Do what now?

Impeach him for what?

Your OP has me thoroughly confused.