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Child free women: Don't you just love being told "Happy Mother's Day," by people who don't know you (Original Post) RB TexLa May 2013 OP
I really don't care. GoCubsGo May 2013 #1
No shit! Warpy May 2013 #5
Yep. GoCubsGo May 2013 #50
I have helped many children, helped "mother" them as the grew up so I'm OK with that. SharonAnn May 2013 #24
Yeah, that's kind of how I feel about it. GoCubsGo May 2013 #48
+1; beautiful post n/t zazen May 2013 #135
I've always been asked first if I am a mother. Quantess May 2013 #2
It doesn't bother me....I always say "Thanks, but I'm not a mother." livetohike May 2013 #3
Since I have a little four legged darling I consider myself as a mother so I love having someone Thinkingabout May 2013 #4
Um... cherokeeprogressive May 2013 #6
Precisely Sherman A1 May 2013 #20
I wished my grandfather happy birthday once and he replied arely staircase May 2013 #39
Just because you don't get it doesn't mean they aren't entitled to feel the way they do. Cobalt Violet May 2013 #154
See Post #6 Sherman A1 May 2013 #161
I think post #6 is the shit stirrer, not the op. n/t Cobalt Violet May 2013 #162
We are all entitled to our opinions Sherman A1 May 2013 #163
Yep. cordelia May 2013 #105
The way I figure it... pipi_k May 2013 #7
Thank you for that. Loryn May 2013 #11
What a lovely post. Number23 May 2013 #94
I endured all manner of infertility treatments in my younger days Mojorabbit May 2013 #101
I'm not a mom in my heart. I am an aunt, a therapist, a neighbor and friend. In those Squinch May 2013 #25
OK then. pipi_k May 2013 #81
I am NOT. A. Mom in any fucking sense of the word, but thanks REP May 2013 #117
Well you certainly pipi_k May 2013 #137
But when it is of their choosing, there is no pain REP May 2013 #160
Loved my former JustAnotherGen May 2013 #126
"Speak gently..." pipi_k May 2013 #139
It's a gesture of goodwill. I am not in the least offended. LaydeeBug May 2013 #8
This happened to me for the first time on Friday. chowder66 May 2013 #9
Same as "Merry Christmas" to a non-Christian... FWIW, I am a mom but I tend to see these types of riderinthestorm May 2013 #10
I am not offended because people mean well but, mostlyalurker May 2013 #12
I'm so sorry. pamela May 2013 #69
Thank you. mostlyalurker May 2013 #102
I'm so sorry too JustAnotherGen May 2013 #128
greetings are a communication device for mortals olddots May 2013 #13
It must be painful to hear for women who have been long trying, unsucsessfully, to conceive. eShirl May 2013 #14
You expressed exactly how I feel. Metatron May 2013 #17
If I were wished a "happy secretaries day" on Secretary's day, or a "happy coal miner's day" on Squinch May 2013 #26
This is a very important point. Ilsa May 2013 #32
well said n/t fishwax May 2013 #64
+1 treestar May 2013 #72
Thank you thank you thank you JustAnotherGen May 2013 #129
Since I did HAVE a mother, I take it in that spirit mainer May 2013 #15
That's how I see it. Even if you're not a mom, you had one. Xithras May 2013 #156
Aaaah, another wonderful DU tradition. Jamastiene May 2013 #16
I'm a mother to my furry four-footed babe.... hlthe2b May 2013 #18
I have always looked at Mother's Day as a day to celebrate our mothers. Jamastiene May 2013 #57
You really hate kids sharp_stick May 2013 #19
Not at all RB TexLa May 2013 #21
You really hate Squinch May 2013 #27
I'm taking this to mean sharp_stick May 2013 #29
WOW, Not judgmental are we? get the red out May 2013 #33
that would presume it's sharp_stick May 2013 #98
This must be some kind of projection. There is nothing in the OP enough May 2013 #61
No, just people who ASSume too much Warpy May 2013 #74
yuuup i guess so n/t sharp_stick May 2013 #97
Breeder Bingo! PasadenaTrudy May 2013 #114
Yeah, my card's full, too REP May 2013 #119
i was in my 30 before having kids and NEVER had a stranger wish me a happy mothers day. sheeeit, seabeyond May 2013 #22
No. It really doesn't happen all that often! Quantess May 2013 #43
I actually get it a lot. Squinch May 2013 #108
Happened to me all day. I'm Childfree. REP May 2013 #118
happy corporate marketing day everyone! nt msongs May 2013 #23
That's accurate!!!! get the red out May 2013 #35
Much like a birthday is merely "fetal expulsion day" which I also assume you have the consistency to LanternWaste May 2013 #145
Yep, that's right up there with wishing someone a "good morning" ... etherealtruth May 2013 #28
Not a big fan of this post ... Trajan May 2013 #30
Worthless, shit-stirring post. Heidi May 2013 #31
It seems that if a woman does not have kids, Jamastiene May 2013 #40
Jama!!! Heidi May 2013 #42
Hey! Jamastiene May 2013 #55
No need to feel for us. sarge43 May 2013 #60
How many JustAnotherGen May 2013 #130
*eyeroll* Daemonaquila May 2013 #104
Family values are wonderful. LWolf May 2013 #34
Funny thing, phylny May 2013 #36
this reminds me of people that get pissed when someone says happy holidays arely staircase May 2013 #37
Just don't hold the door open for them. n/t cloudbase May 2013 #38
Many child-free women have mothers. Maybe they can have a "Happy Mother's Day" with them. bike man May 2013 #41
I'm a gay man with Tien1985 May 2013 #44
Well, every one of them HAD a mom MNBrewer May 2013 #45
In case I miss it, RB TexLa, Happy Father's Day. Ptah May 2013 #46
+ [infinity] etherealtruth May 2013 #47
Yes. Walking with my daughter and my dog today, I accepted, graciously, the msanthrope May 2013 #49
I don't care. The Velveteen Ocelot May 2013 #51
When I hear "Happy Mother's Day," I think of my mom KansDem May 2013 #52
I tell my students they are all my children. Starry Messenger May 2013 #53
No such thing as child free women..the Bible tells me so! Bryn May 2013 #54
Actually I asked a lady today... Turbineguy May 2013 #56
I wouldn't get too bent out of shape about it wercal May 2013 #58
My reply to all such greetings is roody May 2013 #59
i live in nyc La Lioness Priyanka May 2013 #62
Happy Mothers Day! Katashi_itto May 2013 #63
at brunch today, the waiter plunked down my "complimentary MOthers Day" glass of CTyankee May 2013 #65
why? HiPointDem May 2013 #67
Well, I can see how a woman who doesn't want to be a mom could be a little annoyed. CTyankee May 2013 #68
i don't see why free champagne is annoying. HiPointDem May 2013 #70
That's why I laughed. I guess he just assumed what I was there for. CTyankee May 2013 #73
How dare he. How DARE he. Nye Bevan May 2013 #93
We had a laugh. You don't seem to have much fun...tell you what, I'll give you my next CTyankee May 2013 #96
I understand what you are saying CT JustAnotherGen May 2013 #127
...just not at 11 in the morning... CTyankee May 2013 #132
THERE it is! People are talking about something that annoys them. It was only Squinch May 2013 #109
Did you tell him "I don't drink with you"? name not needed May 2013 #121
Aw, c'mon. We were having a good time with a dear friend of ours. It was a nice meal at CTyankee May 2013 #122
never happened to me & i wouldn;t take offense if it did. stupid thing to get offended at. HiPointDem May 2013 #66
Yeah, I say nothing if I don't know for certain treestar May 2013 #71
I assume they all have or had mothers and the day is for their mom instead of them. Maybe I'm odd in uppityperson May 2013 #150
I am getting a vibe that it can be considered very general treestar May 2013 #159
This message was self-deleted by its author treestar May 2013 #158
I'm "mother" to 2 dogs, 5 birds, a horse, a sometime cat and a garden magical thyme May 2013 #75
You're a den mother ; ) Or, you're starting your own ark. nt okaawhatever May 2013 #82
Every female teacher is a Mom HockeyMom May 2013 #76
Oh for crying out loud. nolabear May 2013 #77
Really? We should not honor all mothers because some might not have children? Old and In the Way May 2013 #78
This message was self-deleted by its author iusedtobe May 2013 #87
I wish you hadn't told me what you really thought. Old and In the Way May 2013 #100
It's just a common greeting procon May 2013 #79
Must be a wonderful life... 99Forever May 2013 #80
Yes, Lady Freedom Returns May 2013 #83
I once dated a guy who had divorced his wife and left his home country Squinch May 2013 #110
It doesn't bother me at all. I'm a mother to my four legged babies Raine May 2013 #84
I don't do Mother's Day with you. Ikonoklast May 2013 #85
I wished my brother a happy mother' day today. LiberalAndProud May 2013 #86
I can see how it would be a little annoying, but I wouldn't let it ruin my day GiaGiovanni May 2013 #88
I have dogs. a la izquierda May 2013 #89
I am glaringly obviously ethnically jewish, yet completely disinterested in even secular culture Sen. Walter Sobchak May 2013 #90
I don't expect anyone in customer service to know my situation u4ic May 2013 #91
The sentiment is not meant to offend arikara May 2013 #92
I don't procreate with you. Codeine May 2013 #95
those that stir the shit ProdigalJunkMail May 2013 #99
Only a few more hours to go for DU's War on Mother's Day BeyondGeography May 2013 #103
We've all HAD mothers*, so take it in good humor. *Unless you're named "Macduff." WinkyDink May 2013 #106
It Makes Me Uncomfortable AnnieBW May 2013 #107
It happens to me but I don't mind Catherine Vincent May 2013 #111
"It takes a village..." ~ Hillary Clinton Zorra May 2013 #112
Yep PasadenaTrudy May 2013 #113
Do you have or have you had a mother? uppityperson May 2013 #151
Sad that DU is so pronatalist... n/t PasadenaTrudy May 2013 #115
Agree get the red out May 2013 #123
I got that about 4 times today when I went into a neighborhood kestrel91316 May 2013 #116
Message auto-removed Name removed May 2013 #120
Eh... 19 people were injured when someone shot up a Mothers Day Parade in NOLA Lucinda May 2013 #124
I agree. HappyMe May 2013 #134
I stayed home JustAnotherGen May 2013 #125
I can honestly say that has never happened to me Skittles May 2013 #131
everyone's different alc May 2013 #133
Happy Mothers Day.....Faimily Values. NCTraveler May 2013 #136
Is it safe to assume you....had a Mother? alphafemale May 2013 #138
I find it odd that rather HappyMe May 2013 #140
Post removed Post removed May 2013 #141
As they should. The OP is horseshit. alphafemale May 2013 #142
Well, I can't get pissed off about that. HappyMe May 2013 #143
Someone needs a hug and wants attention again. LanternWaste May 2013 #144
Mother's Day has become all twisted and contorted and commercialized.... cbdo2007 May 2013 #146
Men tell each other "Happy Mother's Day". Because it's a Holiday. ieoeja May 2013 #147
I was in 8th grade when my mom died. HappyMe May 2013 #148
No because I have/had a mother and am happy for her. It isn't always about you. eom uppityperson May 2013 #149
Less than 20% of women in the US over 40 are child free marshall May 2013 #152
That was one heck of a drive-by! Orrex May 2013 #153
Well if they don't know you it is an honest mistake. upaloopa May 2013 #155
The only person I would ever wish a Happy Mothers Day marions ghost May 2013 #157

GoCubsGo

(32,078 posts)
1. I really don't care.
Sun May 12, 2013, 01:20 PM
May 2013

AFAIC, it is a happy day for me, because it reminds me that I am not one of them, thankfully.

Warpy

(111,234 posts)
5. No shit!
Sun May 12, 2013, 01:24 PM
May 2013

Not all of us are meant to be mothers and would have been unhappy women raising unhappy children had we been forced into it.

SharonAnn

(13,772 posts)
24. I have helped many children, helped "mother" them as the grew up so I'm OK with that.
Sun May 12, 2013, 02:25 PM
May 2013

Nearly all of us have helped "parent" other people's children during our lives. Sometimes in small ways, like paying for schools, sometimes in big ways, like taking in foster children or volunteering for children's organizations.

I accept good will however it's offered and for whatever reason it's offered. Makes my life simpler and more positive.

Just because I didn't actually bear children, it doesn't offend me to be wished well.

GoCubsGo

(32,078 posts)
48. Yeah, that's kind of how I feel about it.
Sun May 12, 2013, 03:26 PM
May 2013

It's the same with every other holiday. As for Mother's Day, I'm a cat mom, which is good enough for me, and a lot of other people.

Quantess

(27,630 posts)
2. I've always been asked first if I am a mother.
Sun May 12, 2013, 01:22 PM
May 2013

Or, it's been addressed to a group of women with the odds that one of us is probably a mom.
Even so, it doesn't happen to me all that often.

Thinkingabout

(30,058 posts)
4. Since I have a little four legged darling I consider myself as a mother so I love having someone
Sun May 12, 2013, 01:24 PM
May 2013

tell me Happy Mother's Day.

Sherman A1

(38,958 posts)
20. Precisely
Sun May 12, 2013, 02:03 PM
May 2013


One wonders why must some take offense at being wished a happy day?


BTW: I am a Dad and I was wished Happy Mother's Day today and even received a Mother's Day Gift.

arely staircase

(12,482 posts)
39. I wished my grandfather happy birthday once and he replied
Sun May 12, 2013, 02:58 PM
May 2013

well, happy birthday to you too, little boy. he was 93 and I was 35.

Cobalt Violet

(9,905 posts)
154. Just because you don't get it doesn't mean they aren't entitled to feel the way they do.
Mon May 13, 2013, 12:22 PM
May 2013

For some it is an insult.

Sherman A1

(38,958 posts)
163. We are all entitled to our opinions
Mon May 13, 2013, 07:51 PM
May 2013

You have yours and I have mine.

In mine it would be.... Some might just be finding, perhaps too much by which they are easily offended. But, whatever works for you.............

pipi_k

(21,020 posts)
7. The way I figure it...
Sun May 12, 2013, 01:30 PM
May 2013

even if a woman has never had children of her own...either biological or adopted, there's a pretty good chance she's been a "mom" to someone.

She may have acted in the role of mom to a young person at some time.

A neighbor child. A niece or nephew.

A student.

A pet, even.

I think all women are "moms" in their hearts.



Loryn

(943 posts)
11. Thank you for that.
Sun May 12, 2013, 01:41 PM
May 2013

As someone who was only able to conceive fibroids, not being a mother was quite sad for me earlier in my life.

Yesterday as I checked out of the grocery store with salad, cat food, and a bottle of wine, the checker cheerily said "Happy Mother's Day." I didn't correct her.

I have been a mother to all the things you mentioned.


Mojorabbit

(16,020 posts)
101. I endured all manner of infertility treatments in my younger days
Sun May 12, 2013, 09:45 PM
May 2013

to no avail. That was eons ago thouogh. Generally it does not bother me but ever so often it drags up old stuff and makes me sad. I have nurtured all manner of people and animals in my lifetime so I try to take it in the spirit it is given.

Squinch

(50,935 posts)
25. I'm not a mom in my heart. I am an aunt, a therapist, a neighbor and friend. In those
Sun May 12, 2013, 02:28 PM
May 2013

capacities I perform really important and valuable functions for the kids in my life, who includes some nieces and nephews that I love to distraction and have helped raise.

I chose not to be a mom. I am happy with that choice.

pipi_k

(21,020 posts)
81. OK then.
Sun May 12, 2013, 06:24 PM
May 2013

I think being a mom of the heart is an honor, but far be it for me to say someone is what s/he doesn't want to be.

I change my original statement to say that many (not all) women are moms in their hearts.

REP

(21,691 posts)
117. I am NOT. A. Mom in any fucking sense of the word, but thanks
Sun May 12, 2013, 11:50 PM
May 2013

I don't need to be considered a mommy in any sense to be complete. I didn't undergo two sterilizations because I secretly yearned for someone to call me Mom. Woman does not equal Mother.

pipi_k

(21,020 posts)
137. Well you certainly
Mon May 13, 2013, 09:07 AM
May 2013

told me off!

Not sure where the idea comes from that woman = mom, but I didn't say it, and didn't mean to imply it.

You are right. Woman doesn't equal mom any more than mom doesn't equal woman. Mr Pipi was both mom and dad to his oldest daughter when his first wife left them both and wanted nothing to do with my stepdaughter till the day her mom died.

In any event, please forgive me for trying to be compassionate toward those women who, for one reason or another, usually not of their own choosing, do not have children. Please forgive me for trying to inject a bit of positive thought into a subject that is so very painful for so many women.

REP

(21,691 posts)
160. But when it is of their choosing, there is no pain
Mon May 13, 2013, 03:30 PM
May 2013

Well, my sterilizations were a bit painful, but I chose those, too. Fought for them, in fact; too many doctors could not believe that I wouldn't change my mind (Alzheimer's doesn't run in my family, so no) or "meet a man who wants children" (why would I be with a man like that - or a man like that be with me?) or maybe I'd want a child because my husband could die (WTF?). Couldn't believe that a uterus and breasts actually had a functioning brain that could make decisions and plans and know its own likes and dislikes.

Too many people assuming that a woman without children is less somehow; is suffering from some inner pain; is bravely carrying on being childLESS. Never realizing that quite a few women decided that motherhood may be a fine 'hood indeed for many, but preferred a different address, and live there without regrets, doubt or the need of the so very compassionate glances of strangers.

JustAnotherGen

(31,798 posts)
126. Loved my former
Mon May 13, 2013, 06:02 AM
May 2013

Step kids and I was a good stepmom - but I was not a mom. Nieces and nephews are great but after my third miscarriage in a year -

That's not good enough or the same. I'm sorry because I love what you wrote - but speak gently because you never know what heartbreak someone is experiencing.

pipi_k

(21,020 posts)
139. "Speak gently..."
Mon May 13, 2013, 09:49 AM
May 2013

That is good advice no matter what, because what you said is true...you never know what heartbreak someone is experiencing, or has experienced.

My youngest stepdaughter had two miscarriages in less than a year. For a short time during her pregnancies, she was a "mother" to a fetus. Would she be hurt if someone wished her a Happy Mothers Day, or would she appreciate someone acknowledging that those fetuses even existed....one never knows how someone will feel about what we say.

After my own daughter passed away in 1975, my mother avoided mentioning her name. Nobody did. Never talked about her...I suppose people were afraid that doing so would make me sad. It would have, but that wouldn't have been a bad thing, necessarily. It's good to cry. It's good to mourn. If we don't do that, we find ourselves doing it years and years later.

I suppose I could have said to people, please...talk about Pammy. She was a real person. She lived. It will hurt me, but not as much as seeing people act like she had never existed.

 

LaydeeBug

(10,291 posts)
8. It's a gesture of goodwill. I am not in the least offended.
Sun May 12, 2013, 01:30 PM
May 2013

Happy Holidays doesn't bother me either.

chowder66

(9,066 posts)
9. This happened to me for the first time on Friday.
Sun May 12, 2013, 01:33 PM
May 2013

It was a customer in Georgia whom I have never spoken to or have met.

Must admit, it was a bit odd.

…yet I survived.

 

riderinthestorm

(23,272 posts)
10. Same as "Merry Christmas" to a non-Christian... FWIW, I am a mom but I tend to see these types of
Sun May 12, 2013, 01:40 PM
May 2013

greetings as expressions meant with goodwill.



mostlyalurker

(37 posts)
12. I am not offended because people mean well but,
Sun May 12, 2013, 01:43 PM
May 2013

because both of children died as newborns due to some medical stuff nobody but their father and I care about, it always hurts me. I don't get in peoples faces about it 'cause that's rude and uncalled for however, I think it would be nice if strangers were just kind and non specific with greetings like that. There is a lot of pain in the world you just don't know about.

pamela

(3,469 posts)
69. I'm so sorry.
Sun May 12, 2013, 04:36 PM
May 2013

I really don't know what else to say. I just wanted to let you know someone saw your post and cared.

 

olddots

(10,237 posts)
13. greetings are a communication device for mortals
Sun May 12, 2013, 01:44 PM
May 2013

I would reply " good day earthling " (not funny )

yeah it sucks --a few days ago on some "news" show they mentioned how Mother's Day is now a multi billion dollar industry ---we seem to make up these days to create consumerism brought on by advertising .

eShirl

(18,490 posts)
14. It must be painful to hear for women who have been long trying, unsucsessfully, to conceive.
Sun May 12, 2013, 01:45 PM
May 2013

Or perhaps women who finally conceived, only to suffer miscarriage.

I know people mean well, but sometimes it's kinder not to say anything if you don't know the circumstances of the person you're interacting with.

Squinch

(50,935 posts)
26. If I were wished a "happy secretaries day" on Secretary's day, or a "happy coal miner's day" on
Sun May 12, 2013, 02:33 PM
May 2013

Coal Miner's Day, I would think the person saying it was presumptuous and odd.

(Yes, there is actually a Coal Miner's Day. I'm told it's in June.)

Ilsa

(61,692 posts)
32. This is a very important point.
Sun May 12, 2013, 02:50 PM
May 2013

It's possible that a gesture of goodwill can remind a person of something she feels is missing from her life.

mainer

(12,022 posts)
15. Since I did HAVE a mother, I take it in that spirit
Sun May 12, 2013, 01:50 PM
May 2013

and since it's so automatic, I found myself saying "And same to you!" to a MAN who wished me Happy Mother's Day.

Xithras

(16,191 posts)
156. That's how I see it. Even if you're not a mom, you had one.
Mon May 13, 2013, 12:34 PM
May 2013

Mothers Day is a day to honor your own mother as much as it's a day to be honored for being one. 100% of the people on this planet either ARE mothers or were birthed by one. I'm a man and will obviously never be a mother, so from my perspective, a Happy Mothers Day greeting is simply a reminder for me to reflect on my own mothers sacrifices for me. I always assumed that other men and childless women looked at it the same way.

Jamastiene

(38,187 posts)
16. Aaaah, another wonderful DU tradition.
Sun May 12, 2013, 01:51 PM
May 2013

I bought a strawberry torte and told the cashier it was my Mother's Day present from my cat. She wished me a Happy Mother's Day twice after I did that, lol.

We should start a holiday on our own to coincide with Mother's Day. Non-mother's Day. We can celebrate our own holiday and have fun.

hlthe2b

(102,200 posts)
18. I'm a mother to my furry four-footed babe....
Sun May 12, 2013, 01:59 PM
May 2013

and she will always love me and miss me when I'm gone.

That said, we all had mothers, so today is for them.

Jamastiene

(38,187 posts)
57. I have always looked at Mother's Day as a day to celebrate our mothers.
Sun May 12, 2013, 03:37 PM
May 2013

I'm not a mother, but I still celebrate the holiday for my mother. Have I completely misunderstood the holiday all these years?

Squinch

(50,935 posts)
27. You really hate
Sun May 12, 2013, 02:35 PM
May 2013

women who don't have kids, don't you? Kind of pathetic.

Actually, I have no more idea if you hate women who don't have kids than you do whether the OPer hates kids. But that seems to be the game we're playing.

sharp_stick

(14,400 posts)
29. I'm taking this to mean
Sun May 12, 2013, 02:42 PM
May 2013

you haven't been around for the "Oh how much I hate the child tax credit" rants come tax time. That being said, it may be better stated that he dislikes people that have kids rather than the kids themselves.

get the red out

(13,461 posts)
33. WOW, Not judgmental are we?
Sun May 12, 2013, 02:50 PM
May 2013

Of all places to judge someone for a life choice that they refuse to keep "properly" shut up about I would hope DU would not be the place.

You are the one who is pathetic, since you are so condemning to someone you don't even know.

enough

(13,256 posts)
61. This must be some kind of projection. There is nothing in the OP
Sun May 12, 2013, 03:55 PM
May 2013

that in any way suggests the poster hates kids, or women who have kids.

Or maybe it's sarcasm with out the icon.

REP

(21,691 posts)
119. Yeah, my card's full, too
Sun May 12, 2013, 11:53 PM
May 2013

So is my barf bag, after reading the "all women are mothers in their hearts" glurge.

 

seabeyond

(110,159 posts)
22. i was in my 30 before having kids and NEVER had a stranger wish me a happy mothers day. sheeeit,
Sun May 12, 2013, 02:17 PM
May 2013

i am a mom and old and still do not have strangers wish me a happy moms day.

i do not think it happens.

Quantess

(27,630 posts)
43. No. It really doesn't happen all that often!
Sun May 12, 2013, 03:09 PM
May 2013

I have never had the phrase directed at me, point blank.
Occasionally I have heard "if you're a mother, happy mother's day". Maybe 2 or 3 times in my entire life, no big deal.

 

LanternWaste

(37,748 posts)
145. Much like a birthday is merely "fetal expulsion day" which I also assume you have the consistency to
Mon May 13, 2013, 11:43 AM
May 2013

Much like a birthday is merely "fetal expulsion day" which I also assume you have the consistency to maintain... rather than simply pretending to be clever.

Heidi

(58,237 posts)
31. Worthless, shit-stirring post.
Sun May 12, 2013, 02:46 PM
May 2013

(Only somewhat) respectfully submitted,

Heidi, child-free by choice but not at all miffed by Mother's Day

Jamastiene

(38,187 posts)
40. It seems that if a woman does not have kids,
Sun May 12, 2013, 03:04 PM
May 2013

she might still have a mother. So, the holiday can still be celebrated. The ones I truly feel for are those who have to face Mother's Day if their mothers have passed on. I see no reason not to celebrate our mothers, even if we do not have children ourselves.

sarge43

(28,941 posts)
60. No need to feel for us.
Sun May 12, 2013, 03:50 PM
May 2013

I have many vivid memories of the kind, silly, loving, heroic things my Mom did. Life is what it is. Far better I miss her than she to miss me. Losing a child is the worst thing that can happen.

Back OT: I don't mind someone wishing me Happy Mother's Day. Just because a woman hasn't given birth doesn't mean she isn't a mom. It would be a sad world if the only people we loved and cared for shared our DNA.

JustAnotherGen

(31,798 posts)
130. How many
Mon May 13, 2013, 06:11 AM
May 2013

Miscarriages have you had in the past year? I called to wish my mom a Happy Mother's day yesterday and she said - thanks - but as a mom I want my daughter to have that joy. My heart breaks for you.


It's a day of reminders of a child you never got to hold.

 

Daemonaquila

(1,712 posts)
104. *eyeroll*
Sun May 12, 2013, 10:01 PM
May 2013

Oh, how nice for you that YOU don't care. Get off the high horse. Lots of us are sick of assinine assumptions, like that because we are women, we give a damn about babies or would know what to do with them beyond preparing them with a nice white wine sauce, or that because we're married we're Mrs.-Whatever-His-Last-Name-Is. It's pretty stupid to wish anyone with breasts a Happy Mother's Day, even really offensive under some circumstances.

LWolf

(46,179 posts)
34. Family values are wonderful.
Sun May 12, 2013, 02:52 PM
May 2013

Of course, we don't all define that term in the same way.

I AM a mother. My grown sons are the greatest blessing of my life, every day of the year. They don't wait for Mother's day to let me know that they love and appreciate me.

Still, today, my mom and I will be having dinner at my younger son's home. Dinner prepared and served by him, and by my grandson.

People who don't know you aren't stopping to wonder if you are a mother, or anything else about your life. They don't know you.

My grandson will also be wishing the woman who is not his mother a happy mother's day. He said, "She loves me more, and takes better care of me, than my 'real' mother ever did."

My students sometimes forget and call me "mom." I forgive them.

I'm a woman, and whether or not I choose to give birth, whether or not I nurture anyone in my life, I represent the female aspect of life, and can be honored for it.

I just wish we'd honor it more than once a year. Maybe by putting more women in leadership roles across the globe. Something less commercial, and more authentic.

phylny

(8,378 posts)
36. Funny thing,
Sun May 12, 2013, 02:52 PM
May 2013

I am a mother, and the only people who wished me a happy Mother's Day were people who knew me and knew I was a mother.

Not the people in the store.

Not the cashier or the guy bagging groceries.

Not one person in church.

I am so fucking offended by these so-called family values.

arely staircase

(12,482 posts)
37. this reminds me of people that get pissed when someone says happy holidays
Sun May 12, 2013, 02:54 PM
May 2013

when someone says something with good intentions, I find it is nice to simply be appreciative, regardless of how clumsy or off the mark the comment was.

Tien1985

(920 posts)
44. I'm a gay man with
Sun May 12, 2013, 03:13 PM
May 2013

A loving husband and a 9 yr old boy. *We* have gotten wished a Happy Mother's Day. We don't celebrate it that way in our house, but we take it in the spirit that it's meant, smile and say thanks.

I don't see this as a crisis, but a simple "thanks, but I'm not a mom" should handle it.

MNBrewer

(8,462 posts)
45. Well, every one of them HAD a mom
Sun May 12, 2013, 03:19 PM
May 2013

and it IS Mother's Day, so why not be happy?

If you don't have kids you should be DOUBLE happy!!

 

msanthrope

(37,549 posts)
49. Yes. Walking with my daughter and my dog today, I accepted, graciously, the
Sun May 12, 2013, 03:27 PM
May 2013

felicitations of perfect strangers who seemed to want to be nice.

The Velveteen Ocelot

(115,661 posts)
51. I don't care.
Sun May 12, 2013, 03:28 PM
May 2013

If someone wishes me well for any reason I think it's nice. It doesn't bother me if someone were to assume I'm a mother even though I'm not - but this has never actually happened to me.

KansDem

(28,498 posts)
52. When I hear "Happy Mother's Day," I think of my mom
Sun May 12, 2013, 03:31 PM
May 2013

She passed away in 1991, but I remember her fondly.

I remember giving her cards and flowers all through the years of growing up. And I remember the special dinner we had each Mother's Day. I remember the special encouragement and praise I got from her and how she would stand up for me during difficult times.

I would imagine women without children would feel the same way about their "Mother's Day."

Starry Messenger

(32,342 posts)
53. I tell my students they are all my children.
Sun May 12, 2013, 03:31 PM
May 2013

That makes us all happy. Sorry you feel the need to wallow in negativity.

Bryn

(3,621 posts)
54. No such thing as child free women..the Bible tells me so!
Sun May 12, 2013, 03:31 PM
May 2013

I don't know where it is in the Bible, but it was Mae West who said this:

"The Bible says women who are barren have more children than those who bear them and I have more children than I can handle."

I don't have kids, but I do have more children than I can handle ... two big dogs, 9 cats.. and nature/enviroment..

Plus nieces & nephews ..

Turbineguy

(37,312 posts)
56. Actually I asked a lady today...
Sun May 12, 2013, 03:35 PM
May 2013

she said she was not a Mother but an "Auntie". So I wished her, "Happy Auntie Day!"

wercal

(1,370 posts)
58. I wouldn't get too bent out of shape about it
Sun May 12, 2013, 03:42 PM
May 2013

I used to dread the Monday after, when everybody would ask me what I did for my mother...and I would uncomfortably tell them that she passed away when I was young. Now I'm old enough that people don't automatically assume that I have a live mother to send a card to or take out to dinner, so it doesn't happen as much.

But I never got angry at people for making the assumption. It was just 'small talk'...just trying to be friendly. And, I got this from people I knew and worked with. You probably get this from strangers at the checkout aisle...I'd just smile and not dwell on it.

CTyankee

(63,901 posts)
65. at brunch today, the waiter plunked down my "complimentary MOthers Day" glass of
Sun May 12, 2013, 04:09 PM
May 2013

champagne without asking...I had to laugh. I just said "nah, just give it to my husband. .." I'm a mom, but this sort of thing is annoying...

CTyankee

(63,901 posts)
68. Well, I can see how a woman who doesn't want to be a mom could be a little annoyed.
Sun May 12, 2013, 04:17 PM
May 2013

Or were you asking why I gave the champagne to my husband?

CTyankee

(63,901 posts)
73. That's why I laughed. I guess he just assumed what I was there for.
Sun May 12, 2013, 05:09 PM
May 2013

But it was morning and I had my coffee so I thought it was appropriate to give to my husband.

CTyankee

(63,901 posts)
96. We had a laugh. You don't seem to have much fun...tell you what, I'll give you my next
Sun May 12, 2013, 08:02 PM
May 2013

free glass of champagne at brunch!

Squinch

(50,935 posts)
109. THERE it is! People are talking about something that annoys them. It was only
Sun May 12, 2013, 11:13 PM
May 2013

a matter of time before someone here called the annoyance outrage.

It's annoying. We're allowed to say that.

CTyankee

(63,901 posts)
122. Aw, c'mon. We were having a good time with a dear friend of ours. It was a nice meal at
Mon May 13, 2013, 02:00 AM
May 2013

a neighborhood restaurant and bar "where everybody knows your name." Good people,, good times, my friend...

 

HiPointDem

(20,729 posts)
66. never happened to me & i wouldn;t take offense if it did. stupid thing to get offended at.
Sun May 12, 2013, 04:12 PM
May 2013

why don't you direct your energy at something that matters?

treestar

(82,383 posts)
71. Yeah, I say nothing if I don't know for certain
Sun May 12, 2013, 05:06 PM
May 2013

There's no rationale for assuming all women of a certain age are mothers. If you don't know, you need to find out before saying it. It's not that hard. Like asking a fat woman when she is due - just not a good idea. There are times when it is OK to shut up.

uppityperson

(115,677 posts)
150. I assume they all have or had mothers and the day is for their mom instead of them. Maybe I'm odd in
Mon May 13, 2013, 12:12 PM
May 2013

assuming mother's day wishes are about the person's mom rather than the person.

treestar

(82,383 posts)
159. I am getting a vibe that it can be considered very general
Mon May 13, 2013, 01:00 PM
May 2013

Like we should all have a happy mother's day, mother or not. Then we could wish it for men, too. They have mothers.

Family story: curmudgeonly uncle didn't get his wife a mother's day card, said, "you're not my mother."

Response to treestar (Reply #71)

 

magical thyme

(14,881 posts)
75. I'm "mother" to 2 dogs, 5 birds, a horse, a sometime cat and a garden
Sun May 12, 2013, 05:56 PM
May 2013

s'nough for me although I'd like for a 2nd horse to join us.

Old and In the Way

(37,540 posts)
78. Really? We should not honor all mothers because some might not have children?
Sun May 12, 2013, 06:19 PM
May 2013

It's all about you, isn't it? Jeesh, it must suck for you to be so insulted.

Response to Old and In the Way (Reply #78)

procon

(15,805 posts)
79. It's just a common greeting
Sun May 12, 2013, 06:19 PM
May 2013

so why would it be anymore upsetting than "Happy Valentine's Day" if I didn't have a beau?

It's bad enough that we have the perennial rightwing barkers who go apoplectic over holiday greetings without trying to flog this sort of specious nonsense into an issue too.

99Forever

(14,524 posts)
80. Must be a wonderful life...
Sun May 12, 2013, 06:20 PM
May 2013

... to spend it shopping for petty, trivial crap to be pissed off about, eh buddy?

Lady Freedom Returns

(14,120 posts)
83. Yes,
Sun May 12, 2013, 06:29 PM
May 2013

I am also not a happy camper about the way Government and Charities treat you when you tell them you do not have kids.

Had one guy about, not quite, a year ago ask me how many, not if, kids did I have. I said I had none. His jaw dropped and he says "Are you sure?" He treated me as some sort of alien from outer space from then on out.

Squinch

(50,935 posts)
110. I once dated a guy who had divorced his wife and left his home country
Sun May 12, 2013, 11:16 PM
May 2013

and had, by his choice, not seen his son for 8 years - since the child was 8.

When he found out I had no kids, he said, "Don't you feel like your life is incomplete?"

Didn't have a second date.

Raine

(30,540 posts)
84. It doesn't bother me at all. I'm a mother to my four legged babies
Sun May 12, 2013, 06:36 PM
May 2013

so I just smile and say "thank you". I'm always glad when someone says something nice, why put them down for it. Why look to be insulted when none is intended.

LiberalAndProud

(12,799 posts)
86. I wished my brother a happy mother' day today.
Sun May 12, 2013, 06:54 PM
May 2013

He said, "Thanks, but I'm not a mother."
I said, "Have a happy one anyway."

So, happy mother's day, RB TexLa.

 

GiaGiovanni

(1,247 posts)
88. I can see how it would be a little annoying, but I wouldn't let it ruin my day
Sun May 12, 2013, 07:09 PM
May 2013

What's worse is when you've put on a little weight and people start asking you when the baby's due.

 

Sen. Walter Sobchak

(8,692 posts)
90. I am glaringly obviously ethnically jewish, yet completely disinterested in even secular culture
Sun May 12, 2013, 07:22 PM
May 2013

Yet, somehow I manage to navigate through life without being outraged by expressions of goodwill for various Jewish observances.

u4ic

(17,101 posts)
91. I don't expect anyone in customer service to know my situation
Sun May 12, 2013, 07:28 PM
May 2013

Whatever greeting they give me, I assume it's either store policy (like Xmas greetings - as a Pagan, I'm not in the least bit offended) or they're just being polite and/or friendly.

arikara

(5,562 posts)
92. The sentiment is not meant to offend
Sun May 12, 2013, 07:44 PM
May 2013

Nor is it to do with "family values" which is nothing more than "keeping the little woman in her place". I was wished happy mother's day by a customer and I thought it was rather sweet. I heard a radio announcer wish happy mother's day to a male caller today and he was taken aback by it but accepted it with grace.


ProdigalJunkMail

(12,017 posts)
99. those that stir the shit
Sun May 12, 2013, 09:32 PM
May 2013

should be required to lick the spoon...

what complete and utter bullshit feigned offense. laughable... but somehow sad.

sP

AnnieBW

(10,422 posts)
107. It Makes Me Uncomfortable
Sun May 12, 2013, 10:23 PM
May 2013

Mostly because my husband and I are infertile. I also have a very strained relationship with my own mother. I just smile and say that I'm a kitty-mommy.

 

kestrel91316

(51,666 posts)
116. I got that about 4 times today when I went into a neighborhood
Sun May 12, 2013, 11:41 PM
May 2013

over the hill to window shop and evaluate for a possible move. Everybody who said it did so with a cheery smile on their faces and obviously meant well.

I just say thank you and then say I don't have children. I don't expect any apology. And I don't find it offensive.

I only get peeved at the whole "family values" thing when it is used to deny me my rights. This doesn't.

Response to RB TexLa (Original post)

Lucinda

(31,170 posts)
124. Eh... 19 people were injured when someone shot up a Mothers Day Parade in NOLA
Mon May 13, 2013, 05:17 AM
May 2013

THAT bothers me, not someone wishing me well.
I celebrate the memory of my mom on Mothers Day, as well as be happy for all my friends who have chosen that path. Doesn't phase me at all if a stranger assumes I have children.

JustAnotherGen

(31,798 posts)
125. I stayed home
Mon May 13, 2013, 05:56 AM
May 2013

All day. Totally avoided it!

An animal is not for me. And I'm struggling. This is a heart wrenching experience that s filled with sadness and despair. If I had heard those words yesterday I might have responded with:


Oh go fuck yourself! You ever had an HSG with the catheter in? No? Well you would rather be kidnapped and experimented on by aliens than go through that in earth. Now go fuck yourself!

Better to stay in than be miserable to others. But I did speak with three other women in he same journey . . . and we all sent baby dust to each other.


Those words aren't offensive to people who have "Oops" stories or who think its "Easy'.

Skittles

(153,138 posts)
131. I can honestly say that has never happened to me
Mon May 13, 2013, 06:22 AM
May 2013

and if it did I would not get upset; I'd just say I mother two cats

alc

(1,151 posts)
133. everyone's different
Mon May 13, 2013, 08:38 AM
May 2013

my childless (by choice) sister-in-law demands a mother's day card every year because she considers her dogs to be her children. She chose to not be a mother but doesn't want to be left out of this "mother event".

 

NCTraveler

(30,481 posts)
136. Happy Mothers Day.....Faimily Values.
Mon May 13, 2013, 09:04 AM
May 2013

You have to be kidding. As I was wished it today, I thought about my mother. Wonderful thoughts.

 

alphafemale

(18,497 posts)
138. Is it safe to assume you....had a Mother?
Mon May 13, 2013, 09:15 AM
May 2013

Seriously...of all the bullshit reasons to be offended?

This ballz on takes the case.

HappyMe

(20,277 posts)
140. I find it odd that rather
Mon May 13, 2013, 10:09 AM
May 2013

than women supporting other women, there is a bunch of snarling about 'breeders'.

Good grief, it's only one day out of the year. I'm sure all of us here have a grandma, mom, aunt...or someone that could be honored on Mother's Day.

I am a mom. We were out and about yesterday, nobody 'offended' me by greeting me with Happy Mother's Day. I did hear those words from the only 2 people in the world that come first with me - my sons.

Response to RB TexLa (Original post)

 

alphafemale

(18,497 posts)
142. As they should. The OP is horseshit.
Mon May 13, 2013, 11:29 AM
May 2013

You couldn't Make Up a better thread to make villains out of liberals.

Someone said Happy Mothers Day!!!!

Call the ACLU!

wwwaaaaahhh!

HappyMe

(20,277 posts)
143. Well, I can't get pissed off about that.
Mon May 13, 2013, 11:32 AM
May 2013

OP and some of the responses make us look like heartless jackasses.

 

LanternWaste

(37,748 posts)
144. Someone needs a hug and wants attention again.
Mon May 13, 2013, 11:40 AM
May 2013

You are then concerned that some people greet other people in a particular way on a particular holiday? Is there then a standard greeting all people should share that does not offend...?

Or (and I find this more likely), someone needs a hug and wants attention again. Bless your little heart.

cbdo2007

(9,213 posts)
146. Mother's Day has become all twisted and contorted and commercialized....
Mon May 13, 2013, 11:52 AM
May 2013

so you have to spend a whole weekend now honoring everybody for Mother's Day even when they aren't a Mom because they have to make all days applicable to all people.

 

ieoeja

(9,748 posts)
147. Men tell each other "Happy Mother's Day". Because it's a Holiday.
Mon May 13, 2013, 11:52 AM
May 2013

As an Atheist should I get upset when people wich me a Merry Christmas, Happy Chanukah or Scintillating Solstice? No. I'm happy for the well wishes.

HappyMe

(20,277 posts)
148. I was in 8th grade when my mom died.
Mon May 13, 2013, 12:01 PM
May 2013

The next year, on Mother's Day I got my dad a Mother's Day card. He got a Father's Day card and a little present too.

I don't see anything offensive about well wishes. There is so much nastiness and horror in the world today.....a few kind words won't hurt anybody.

marshall

(6,665 posts)
152. Less than 20% of women in the US over 40 are child free
Mon May 13, 2013, 12:17 PM
May 2013

The number is certainly growing, but it's still a safe bet to assume a woman of a certain age is a mother. And as has been pointed out, those who are child free have almost certainly nurtured someone at some point in their life.

Orrex

(63,197 posts)
153. That was one heck of a drive-by!
Mon May 13, 2013, 12:18 PM
May 2013

I would never accuse you of trolling, but I have to say that most trolls don't enjoy the same reply:OP ratio that you scored on this one.

Nicely done!

upaloopa

(11,417 posts)
155. Well if they don't know you it is an honest mistake.
Mon May 13, 2013, 12:33 PM
May 2013

And in their mind they are doing something positive so their motivation is positive.
I think you are making much to do about nothing and I am 1/2 of a childless couple.

marions ghost

(19,841 posts)
157. The only person I would ever wish a Happy Mothers Day
Mon May 13, 2013, 12:44 PM
May 2013

is my mother. (Or mother-in-law).

IMO it's bizarre to wish people you don't know a Happy Mothers Day.

It's like wishing strangers Happy Birthday or Merry Xmas when you have no idea. Now if somebody reads my birth date on an ID and wishes me HBD that's OK because they know.

Do fathers get this? While it isn't offensive, it's just strange...

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