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"It is clear the IRS cannot operate with even a shred of the American peoples confidence under the current leadership," Rubio wrote in a letter to Treasury Secretary Jack Lew. "Therefore, I strongly urge that you and President Obama demand the IRS Commissioners resignation, effectively immediately. No government agency that has behaved in such a manner can possibly instill any faith and respect from the American public."
Script Needs a Rewrite :
Marco Rubio just called on President Obama to fire the Commissioner of the IRS. Small problem: the Commissioner in place when all this happened was Bush appointee Douglas H. Shulman. He left just after the November electing and theres an acting Commissioner currently in place.
- Josh Marshall
http://livewire.talkingpointsm...
http://livewire.talkingpointsmemo.com/entry/rubio-calls-on-irs-commissioner-to-resign?ref=fpblg
madokie
(51,076 posts)Need I say more?
I thought not
immoderate
(20,885 posts)--imm
God, he's a self-important dufus. Which,
means the GOP will probably end up nominating him.
uponit7771
(90,335 posts)...thinking whatsoever
blm
(113,043 posts)I know Lugar did. Maybe Bush's appointee was targeting Tea Party leaders for those GOP establishment candidates?
Mitch McConnell Had Previously Floated Karl Rove Idea To Target Weak Tea Party Candidates
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/02/09/mitch-mcconnell-karl-rove_n_2652927.html
WASHINGTON -- A firestorm on the right has greeted a new Karl Rove-backed super PAC aimed at knocking off weak conservative Senate candidates and protecting strong incumbents in GOP primaries, but the new PAC may well prove to be a plus in the eyes of Senate Minority Leader Mitch McConnell.
Thats not surprising: The model for the new super PAC, dubbed the Conservative Victory Project, is akin to one that McConnell has touted the need for at GOP events in recent years, two GOP fundraisers with good ties to the senator told Huffington Post. Both asked for anonymity to speak candidly about private events and discussions.
The two fundraisers explained that McConnell has several times lamented that, in the last two elections, weaker and unelectable Tea Party candidates have been winning more GOP primary battles, often with hefty financing from right-leaning groups like the Club for Growth. In some cases, the weaker candidates have also been backed by Democratic groups seeking to boost their own partys prospects in the fall elections.
And the result wasnt pretty for the GOP in either cycle. In 2012, two GOP Senate candidates with Tea Party backing lost their races last fall in Missouri and Indiana, helping Democrats expand their Senate majority. In the case of Missouri, McConnell strongly condemned Tea Party favorite Todd Akin for his incendiary comments about legitimate rape, and sent signals that Akin should consider dropping out before a candidate deadline passed last fall to avoid a debacle on Election Day. In 2010, Tea Party candidates in Delaware and Nevada lost races that more moderate Republicans may have been able to take.>>>
AgingAmerican
(12,958 posts)This should be it's own op.
blm
(113,043 posts)I am just VERY certain that Republicans are more likely to use IRS against their opponents than Democrats are, especially is the head of IRS is a GOP (appointed by Bush) head of IRS.
KoKo
(84,711 posts)Someone called you a "CT" for posting this? It must have been one of our "visitors."
Anyway this would make sense that Repug Establishment would be targeting TeaBaggers they felt were out of line. Especially if the IRS head was appointed by Bush.
karynnj
(59,501 posts)It is hilarious that Rubio has succeeded in making it more well known that it was a now departed Bush appointee that did this. Your connection with the fact that establishment GOP used some charges against the tea party alternatives is icing on the cake.
pscot
(21,024 posts)The Dems are too timid to try something like this. Plus it's a twofer; they do the crime, then get to whine while Democrats do the time
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Spitfire of ATJ
(32,723 posts)So the long time establishment Republicans where getting primaried by upstart Tea Party candidates so they tried to cut them off at the wallet using the IRS.
IOW: This was asshole on asshole violence that we had nothing to do with.
blm
(113,043 posts).
Spitfire of ATJ
(32,723 posts)BlueStater
(7,596 posts)This is one of their "rising stars"? Pathetic.
AgingAmerican
(12,958 posts)Republicans...sheesh!
freshwest
(53,661 posts)Little they say contains any facts or has any basis in reality. The players in print, radio and television always repeat the same story usually without even editing the points or phrasing.
The technique overwhelms the public with a sense of urgency. They could be telling us the Moon is full of aliens controlling our thoughts or made of cheese for all the relevance it has.
People believe it because they are hearing it from all sides at once, thus the importance of planning and coordination. Which is what makes the 'news cyle' or 'wash, rinse, repeat.' That's they call the call what networks put out 'programming.'
They posit it as indisputable fact since no one who dispute it is allowed on any of the media, to break the programming.
'See, everyone says it, so it must be true!'
The gulls will eat this up because they know there's safety in being part of a group, no matter how insane the ideas put forth are.
KharmaTrain
(31,706 posts)...the more I hear this latest "scandal", the more I see how this is yet another "Birther"...a game to be played among the rushpublicans in hope that others will play along as well. This "scandal" will be based on little fact and lots of "ifs" and conjecture. It'll be built upon and the "conspiracy" will grow as more bullshit is added. This is a diversion away from other important issues...focusing the beltway corporates into talking "scandal" and "IRS audits" instead of gun control or economic injustice or immigration reform or any other meaningful legislation.
This "scandal" also hit a big teabagger button...the evil, nasty IRS. Their longtime goal is to destroy it and nothing could help them get closer to this goal than to demonize it. Also by doing so it takes the pressure off of any investigations into the nebulous ties between many teabagger groups, corporate high rollers (like the Kochs) and politicians...
Flatulo
(5,005 posts)KharmaTrain
(31,706 posts)...yes, the IRS admitted that the words "Tea Party" were used in searching for possible audits. Now let's see how many audits were conducted and why. Maybe, just maybe, there's some legitimate reason...a 50c3 or other non-profit being used to filter money to and from political candidates or operatives. Let's see if there is a valid reason for an organization that is responsible to make sure that all pay taxes fairly to investigate groups that openly advocate avoiding paying their fair share and destroying both the IRS and the tax code. In short, let's find out if these audits were warranted and who ordered them. Leaping to the "conclusion" that this is a political vendetta plays right into where the rushpublicans hope this will go...
Flatulo
(5,005 posts)conservative groups for additional scrutiny, claiming that it is 'absolutely outrageous'.
The IRS is supposed to be politically neutral. Since conservatives may govern again in the future, I don't think they should be used as a hit squad for whatever regime may be in power.
Lets hope it was a few low-level employees involved. Otherwise, this will indeed overshadow more important agendas.
John2
(2,730 posts)acting independently, the the President has nothing to do with it, but the heads of the IRS at the time this Policy began ned should be responsible. The IRS was still under Bush appointees. Lerner knew this a year ago, but she found it convenient to insert an apology in front of the Media last Friday. The media took it from there and everything is pointing at the Obama Administration for the guilty Party. People would automatically assume the Obama Administration is guilty because why would Republicans target the Tea Party? Well the Republicans were trying to de legitimize the Tea Party during the 2012 Election. So you point the fingers at the Democrats and the Tea Party followers will believe anything associated with those evil Democrats and Obama. How convenient would it be for Miss Lerner. And when was the last time the media investigated facts before a rush to judgement? They have been carrying the water for the GOP time and time again. This maybe no different.
Flatulo
(5,005 posts)ThomThom
(1,486 posts)is it not the job of the IRS to check and see that they do?
But to not know who was in charge and that he left is pretty lame.
SunSeeker
(51,550 posts)SleeplessinSoCal
(9,110 posts)This will eventually make the news. Meanwhile we are left exposed to moronic behavior approved of and sanctioned by the GOP.
SCVDem
(5,103 posts)How many Bush appointees are still in place mucking things up?
Spitfire of ATJ
(32,723 posts)SleeplessinSoCal
(9,110 posts)GoCubsGo
(32,079 posts)Loads of them burrowed all over in the government, especially in the Justice Department. All of them put there to pull shit like this.
progressoid
(49,978 posts)Keep digging Marco. You'll get out of that hole soon.
SCVDem
(5,103 posts)TeamPooka
(24,221 posts)Sheepshank
(12,504 posts)Jakes Progress
(11,122 posts)Curmudgeoness
(18,219 posts)The only people who are shocked by this are the teabaggers......the rest of us know that the IRS is supposed to go after tax cheats, and if there are a large number of cheats using certain names, that is where they should be looking. Targeting the local soup kitchen will be a waste of their efforts.
AndyA
(16,993 posts)Rubio is obviously in over his head. Maybe he was thirsty when he wrote that letter and didn't have his tiny little bottle of water handy.
Rain Mcloud
(812 posts)and sock puppet for the GOP.
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egold2604
(369 posts)Blue Owl
(50,349 posts)Which is it, Marco?
Hekate
(90,645 posts).... As DUers should well know ...
Dustlawyer
(10,495 posts)skeewee08
(1,983 posts)PatrynXX
(5,668 posts)Acorn reports irregularities and suddenly someone does a fictional piece on them and poof.
I can see it now a Dem is running the IRS discovers issues and thats why news of this leaked. Republicans and Tea Part don't get along this has nothing to do with Obama. It would if the IRS bothered to do it's job and go after real mucked up Conservative places that shouldn't be taxless..
randome
(34,845 posts)Rubio is a panicky chihuahua and it will be a glorious event to watch him self-destruct during the GOP primary.
And even more glorious if he makes it to the nomination. He is another clueless Romney.
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