Please join me in THANKING the President for his ADULT handling of the IRS catastrophe

[MannyGoldstein]

Last edited Tue May 14, 2013, 07:06 AM - Edit history (1)

As we all know by now, in 2011 certain ignoramuses at the IRS flagged groups with "Tea Party" or "patriot" in their names for closer scrutiny when they applied for tax-exempt status.

The IRS has, of course, apologized. And at today's press conference, the President said that, if true, the IRS's actions were "outrageous and there's no place for it." Those responsible will "be held fully accountable."

Thanks goodness! A breath of fresh air!

Now some of you with lower IQs might be thinking things like "Hey Manny, isn't it against the law for non-profits to have some types of political agenda? And isn't there a pretty good chance that an organization with "Tea Party" or "patriot" in its name has a political agenda? Doesn't it make sense to take a closer look at outfits like that, just in case?"

For those types, who are trapped in a "reality-based" world, let me explain:

Haven't you noticed how much our President has done for you people? Well-off Americans have gained a full 5.6 trillion dollars since the start of the Obama recovery! $5.6 trillion is one hell of a lot of money, don't you agree?!

And those who aren't rich have only lost 600 billion. You little people should be damned grateful!

What's Obama's secret? His secret is that he's not trapped by "reality". He knows that by being obsequious to the fringe right, while bashing people who insist on Democratic values, he can get the Republicans to do his bidding. As he has.

So instead of whining, please join me in thanking the President for his thoughtful actions?

Huzzah!

Regards,

Third-Way Manny

[Egalitarian Thug]

1. LOL! Proper use of the word 'obsequious' itsef is worth a K&R.

[MannyGoldstein]

7. Oh good! I thought it might mean something naughty.

Some Liberal at work insisted that it meant treating people nicely, but I wasn't totally sure.

Regards,

Third-Way Manny

[Egalitarian Thug]

35. That too, would be apt. n/t

[RC]

2. I'm sure glad I move from Fargo ND to KCMO so my room temperature IQ would be higher.

These flagged groups stink to high heaven and the IRS was doing the correct thing. We all know they are political groups hiding behind the tax exempt status. Obama is good with getting the IRS off the backs of the lying tax dodgers? I can't help but wonder how'd it be if they were Liberal groups trying this instead?

[sabrina 1]

14. If they were Liberal Groups the WH would probably praise the IRS for doing its job.

He would explain how no one is above the law, especially poor liberals. He would then seek out the targetee and place him in some cabinet position.

All investigations of who is behind the Tea Party and which non-profit groups who are illegally funding them, will now end because democrats must show Republicans how fair-minded we are. And in return Republicans will praise this President for his actions, they will stop attacking him, they will begin to work with him on important issues etc. etc. Well, that is the magical thinking version of this sad story.

Pleasing Republicans is a top priority for Democratic Leaders. We always worry about what they might think of us if we were to do the right thing. And so we must keep showing them how much we are willing to do for them, so in the end, they will like us!

[Summer Hathaway]

36. When it comes to 'magical thinking'

you're an absolute pro.

[sabrina 1]

55. Lol, I know. I have such magical dreams such as war criminals being prosecuted, Wall St.

criminals being held accountable, SS being protected at least by our Party etc etc. So far you are correct, it is all just magical thinking.

[hay rick]

47. Didn't Obama come down hard on Homeland Security for tracking Occupy groups?

In my imagination, maybe?

[sabrina 1]

54. In my imagination I dreamed of that happening also. It was a nice dream!

[bvar22]

67. No, no...THAT was your "Magical Thinking".

So much easier to take the Blue Pill,
and go placidly to sleep,
wrapped in the comforting illusions of Party Exceptionalism.

This is your last chance. After this, there is no turning back. You take the blue pill - the story ends, you wake up in your bed and believe whatever you want to believe. You take the red pill - you stay in Wonderland, and I show you how deep the rabbit hole goes.

[gateley]

81. It really wouldn't, sabrina1 -- it would probably express MORE outrage.

To overcompensate, natch.

[another_liberal]

15. Hear! Hear!

Tea Party groups also insisted they had the right to either pay no taxes at all (because they were seceding or some such crap) or they claimed the right to subtract from their taxes the amount which they figured would go to "Socialist Welfare." In both cases they were actively conspiring to defraud the federal government. Why shouldn't they be investigated by the IRS?

[xtraxritical]

23. What you said RC

[MotherPetrie]

3. K&R

[AnotherMcIntosh]

4. All we need is more patience.

Thank you, President Obama.

[MannyGoldstein]

5. Yes! The Republicans are almost ready to trust us!

After so many years of getting nothing but abuse from Democrats, there's finally someone willing to listen.

Regards,

Third-Way Manny

[enough]

6. It took me a couple of readings, but k&r Manny. (nt)

[840high]

8. ty

[DeSwiss]

9. K&R

- Schwa, eh.....

[forestpath]

10. That's right. And it was HARD WORK for him to finally find a government agency he could scold for

going after Republicans. Since it's so rare to find one that does and all.

So, whew! President Obama finally flushed one out into the open!

[Politicub]

11. +1

[SidDithers]

12. Third-Party Manny, folks...

doing his damnedest to help elect Republicans since 2010.

Sid

[Phlem]

17. That's what I thought too!!!

Manny's a Republican!



-p

[MannyGoldstein]

21. He's a crafty little devil.

Promoting a Republican agenda of traditional Democratic values.

Can't anything be done to protect the children?

[Phlem]

31. "We are the World"

"We are the cattle"
"We are the ones who make a better day so let's keep givin"
"to the 1 %"
"who can't live on a million a year,"
"It's true we can make a brighter day just for them"

"We are the world... etc...

[emulatorloo]

72. The best part is that he never says anything bad about Republicans

For some reason only Democrats get the Karl Rove Manny Goldstein treatment

[DeSwiss]

25. Yup, this is true Sid.....

...although in all fairness to Manny, they were all ''posing as Democrats'' when he was helping them.

- Those knockoffs Dems look so much like the real thing, anyone could be fooled.....

[madokie]

40. No doubt, beings as how the head of the IRS during this time

was a bush/cheney plant
Douglas Shulman: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Douglas_Shulman

But third way manny don't care. Don't believe me, ask him

Any post about this issue that does not include this little tidbit is dishonest at the very least, better yet an out right lie is more like it.

[MannyGoldstein]

43. I apologize.

Yes, I forgot to thank the President for not mentioning that fact. It would just hurt our good working relationship with our Republican friends.

Regards,

Third-Way Manny

[madokie]

44. Voters have some responsibility too

OP's sure do

[Bluenorthwest]

49. Ah Sid, repetitive name calling?

Your material needs an update. Name calling is vapid the first time, after countless uses of your super clever moniker of derision it becomes dull and vapid. Vapid is one thing, dull is just too much to endure.
If you need help coming up with some cracks that are actually wise, I could easily write some for you, anything to stop the droning repetition.

[Dragonfli]

50. to be fair he is really creative with his fart humor

It is just that such "outbursts" don't translate well to a typing medium so we never get to hear or smell his best work, not even when he turns around, bends forward, and points his wit directly at the keyboard.

[L0oniX]

59. +1

[L0oniX]

58. So he's just like Obama then huh. n/t

[idwiyo]

61. You nailed it, Sid! He even converted a lot of folks here to his dastardly ways!

Shameful I tell you, shameful!



Newly converted by Manny,

Third Way Idwiyo






PS hopefully sarcasm smilie is NOT required here. Anyone who thinks Manny is advocating for republicans need their head examined ASAP.

[emulatorloo]

74. Never heard him say a single word bad word against Republicans.

Uses the full Karl Rove tool book against Democrats though. Projection, half-truths, and innuendo.

[LondonReign2]

82. Interesting

So you think that criticizing Obama when he goes along with Republicans, does somthing Republicans would do, or following a policy Republicans support ISN'T saying something bad about Republicans?

[emulatorloo]

91. Making up shit is not "criticism" n/t

[idwiyo]

97. What shit?

[LondonReign2]

99. Doesn't answer the question

Whether you think it is "shit" or not doesn't matter.

Let me rephrase the question and see if you can answer this time:

Item A is bad. If I say item B is like just item A, am I not criticizing item A?

Clearly Manny is criticizing Republicans; what you seem not to like is that he is pointing out when Obama fails to act like a Democrat.

[emulatorloo]

102. In this case no.

Because I find OP's "I say item B is like just item A" generally to be based on cherry-picked facts, speculation, made up stuff, "secret plans", half-truths and innuendo.

Just don't find him credible. If you do then knock yourself out! I've about kicked this thread enough, LOL.

[idwiyo]

103. Lots of accusations and innuendo from you. Job well done! Speaking of Karl Rove...

[idwiyo]

83. Maybe you should re-read my post again. :)

[emulatorloo]

86. Why? I got that you are a Manny Fan the first time.

[idwiyo]

96. Entire post. :)

Third Way Idwiyo

[The Link]

68. No-Party Sid, folks...

voting for no Democrats since...forever.

[idwiyo]

101. ...

[emulatorloo]

76. Manny is at a bit of a Crossroad, I think.

See below:

http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1002&pid=2842991

[Bobbie Jo]

95. They don't care.

Not only do they ignore attempts to bring facts into the discussion, it down right pisses them off to be bothered with reading anything that doesn't fall in line with the latest bullshit narrative.

[PufPuf23]

107. Neo-liberal apologist and 1980s GOP centralist in policy Sid, my friends....

Manny is keeping it real here at DU and is a treasure.

Some of us are reliable members of the Democratic Party of over 40 years.

We aren't going anywhere.

We can't fix the GOP but we have a chance at improving our own Party.

Pretty cool one cam win a lunch with Michelle Obama and Elizabeth Warren.

[IrishAyes]

108. Sounds like it.

[Bonobo]

113. I love the image of you stamping your little feet

in righteous indignation and impotent fury.

[DisgustipatedinCA]

115. Little Sydney is finally getting the attention he's been begging for

I think he's cute when he gets so angry that no words come, and he's left with using a smiley face that has fallen and can't get back up.

[ProSense]

13. I love it!

The dichotomy of Damn Obama: Obama is being accused of protecting the Republicans and of targeting them politically.

[SunSeeker]

38. Yup. Heads they win, tails he loses. nt

[JoePhilly]

71. Shussh ... you'll ruin the faux outrage.

Its all part of Obama's grand plan ... Obama tells the DOJ to investigate the Tea Party groups, knowing that later he'll get to scold the DOJ for doing so.

Then after he leaves office, Obama and Sarah Palin will announce their secret love affair, which goes back to when she helped Obama defeat McCain.

After winning the 2008 election, Obama with Palin's help, created the Tea Party which pretends to hate him, but who in fact secretly funds all of his corporatist desires.

[emulatorloo]

84. Obama's also conspired to get himself impeached over Benghazi, per one DU'er

I find DU's "Obama's Secret Plot" posts to have the same value as the Freeper versions.

[JoePhilly]

93. YUP ... the difference is that they tend to be

"through the looking glass" versions ... totally flipped.

[Phlem]

16. + infinity

entertaining and well said!

spot on as usual Manny!

-p

[BlueStreak]

52. + DOUBLE infiinity

[Demeter]

18. This is better than Jonathan Swift's "Modest Proposal"

It's shorter, and it hurts even more.....

[OnyxCollie]

19. Huzzah!

[cheapdate]

20. Kudos.

[longship]

22. Third Way Manny reminds me a bit of...

Marc "The Shark" on the old Morning Sedition radio show where Marc Maron would suddenly begin channeling a neocon during a phone call from Ken from Nebraska.

Oh no... It's happening again... My thoughts are beginning to change...

Here's some from the MS archive machine.
http://archive.org/details/Radio_Haliburton_With_Marc_the_Shark_Maron__1

Way to go, Third Way Manny.

[MannyGoldstein]

24. That's funny stuff!

I haven't heard it before, it captures the thing perfectly.

Thanks!

[longship]

26. You're welcome.

Morning Sedition was wonderful stuff.

[tblue]

34. Was the BEST show on Air America.

There's a site with all their archives.

[longship]

37. As I cited in my post.

Here's another link: Morning Seditionists.

May Cardinal Milfington ever bless you; may you always have the wisdom of the INews 5000 Headline translator; and may you never, ever have a phone call from Ken from Nebraska or from Lawton Smalls.


Morning Sedition Radio Theater rules!!! But not as much as Future Marc, who pales in comparison to Future Future Marc, who pales in comparison to Future Future Future Marc...



On edit: Oopsie, the link in my earlier post was to archive.com, not the MS archive. Well, this post sets that straight.

It's time for the Morning Sedition product placement minute...

[xtraxritical]

27. You wax too cerebral for me, I don't get it.

[Skittles]

30. you want I should kick some waxing cerebral Manny ass, xtraxitical?

LEMME AT HIM!!!

[xtraxritical]

33. Ok, kick some crebral waxing m.f..

[Dragonfli]

39. Every time I wax my cerebral it hurts like hell, but it works much better than shaving...

[hay rick]

28. Those Tea Party idiots should have used "Occupy" in their name.

That way no federal agency would have even looked at them...

Regards, Third-Way hay rick

[SlipperySlope]

29. Not unlawful to have a tax-exempt organization with a political agenda

Manny, I know you were making a completely different point, but I can't help providing this clarification.

It is not unlawful to have a tax-exempt organization with a political agenda.

Section 527 of the Internal Revenue code is dedicated to tax-exempt political organizations. They exist (on all sides of the political spectrum) and they are lawful.

[hay rick]

32. Swiftboating is legal.

Section 527 allows tax exemption for "issue advocacy" organizations as long as they do not engage in partisan activities (advocating for or against the election of a candidate). I'm sure many of the local Tea Party organizations fail this test- and they are required to register with and report to the IRS. I don't know who has responsibility to monitor compliance and prosecute non-compliance...

[MannyGoldstein]

42. Yikes! I goofed!

Thanks for the heads up, I'll correct the OP.

[SlipperySlope]

63. No, no, don't want you to change a thing.

You were making a different point completely I think...

[MannyGoldstein]

70. Too late

Accuracy counts, even in absurdity.

[AverageJoe90]

41. Good satire, I'll give you that.

And he certainly shouldn't have been so easy on ALL of the accused; there were at least some who probably were truly screwy.

However, though, I do take issues with this.....

"He knows that by being obsequious to the fringe right, while bashing people who insist on Democratic values"

.....because it's simply not really true, even if not meant literally. So I guess that kinda spoiled things a little.

[Flying Squirrel]

45. How do you manage to type the word "reality"

While simultaneously making air quotes with your fingers?

Wait... don't answer that. I really don't want to know.

[ananda]

46. Obama being obsequious to the right in order to play nth dimensional chess.

ROFL

Good one Mannybobanny!

[ljm2002]

48. Hear, hear!

Yes indeedy, our President sure knows which side the bread is buttered on.

[Blue Owl]

53. I bet that 90% or more tax cheats are Republicans

Since they seem mentally incapable of understanding any good that taxes can bring about.

[Doctor_J]

56. Every morning I get up and thank God this man is our president

The Republicans get almost no help with their agenda from Big Media, Cable "News", Hate Radio, and all of those magazines like Reason, Spectator, Standard, US Snooze, and so on. If it weren't for the president being the only adult in the room and doing whatever they ask, many times even before they ask it, the damn country would be a Marxist paradise.

Thank you Mr. President. I am 100% certain that your panderi-, er, I mean level-headedness and outreach to the people who are going to impeach you will bring millions to the polls next year.

Regards,
Third-Way Doctor

Kick/Rec

[KoKo]

62. +1

[Ganja Ninja]

57. Oh Manny, can't you see how terribly wrong this is?

Government was always meant to harass the left and the left only. If this is allowed to continue the next thing you know we'll be asking the right to play by the same rules as everyone else. What then?!! Will we start asking the rich to pay taxes like ordinary 9 to 5 nickel & dime American's? Will they go after violent right wing extremists before they have a chance to kill? My God man think of the consequences! Is this what you want for America?

[think_critically]

60. he's blowing it

I'm sorry but he's blowing it big time. He literally has no clue as to how to handle "scandals" like this and I guarantee you he won't do a damn thing accept for say we will investigate and then let the whole mess fester. He's got a faux scandal, an issue of plain stupidity(IRS), and a genuine screw up that is rightfully condemned on both sides(AP report) and he hasn't the slightest clue as to how to handle this. His presidency is on the line and he doesn't have what it takes to fight media spin on these things. He sees it as silliness but in reality it matters. I normally support him but he's screwing up this time and he has nobody to blame but himself. At least Bill new how to fight these people. Barack on the other hand enjoys getting smacked around by these people. If he doesn't get it together soon his presidency is a done deal.

[Dragonbreathp9d]

64. I still don't understand how this is a scandal

More scrutiny should be given to anti-tax groups seeking to be tax exempt. Nothing was even done there was just more scrutiny. The IRS did their due diligence.

[Ganja Ninja]

69. And political groups are investigated from time to time so what makes the Teabag party special? n/t

[msanthrope]

73. It's not--it's Karl Rove retaliation for leaking Crossroads info, and look who's playing along....

http://www.democraticunderground.com/10022842968

[emulatorloo]

75. Now that is very interesting - thanks for the link.

[msanthrope]

80. Karl Rove plants a fake scandal, and look who plays along.....nt

[emulatorloo]

89. Not a surprise to me.

Fits the pattern.

[msanthrope]

90. Whoops. Let me edit that. It was intemperate. nt

[Number23]

110. Ha! Just read pre-edit. "Intemperate" looks good on you.

[msanthrope]

111. Catfood!!!! Catfood!!! Call Congress right fuckin' now !!11!!! nt

[DisgustipatedinCA]

94. You're acting as though you have proof of something. You have nothing

I read the article you linked in the other thread. It says that the same office in the IRS that was giving extra scrutiny to Tea Party groups also screwed up by sending ProPublica a list of applicants who had not yet been approved. This list included Rove's Crossroads GPS. END OF STORY.

You go on to surmise that this is retaliation on Rove's part. And you may be right--this is just the sort of thing he'd love to be involved in. But based on the article you linked to, no responsible adult could make a solid conclusion, or any conclusion, that Rove is behind this. Of course, the worst part is that you're already casting dark accusations against any who don't immediately agree with your proof-free hypothesis ("...and look who's playing along...&quot .

In what state did you pass the bar?

[msanthrope]

105. You think that office 'screwed up' by giving the press the info on Karl Rove's

entity?

That was no screw-up. That was a deliberate leak that could be explained as a mistake.

What state am I barred in? Why? You need a lawyer in PA?

[DisgustipatedinCA]

106. OK, they either screwed up or did it on purpose, immaterial to both your point & mine

Either way, I could see Karl Rove wanting to retaliate--it's very much in his character. My problem with your assertion is that you're acting as though you've proven this is all about Karl Rove retaliating. You haven't come close to proving it. You have let us know that the same IRS office in Cincinnati that let ProPublica know about CGPS also engaged in extra scrutiny of 'bagger groups. The rest is speculation on your part. Speculation is fine. Damning people for not immediately buying into your speculation is not fine.

[Dustlawyer]

65. Obama is a Corpratist plain and simple!

He plays the D.C. Game well but does not call out the corruption in our system. He has helped to erode our rights and done nothing to the Wall Street powerbrokers. I could go on. He has thrown us a few bones and has been much better than Rmoney, but still plays the game as the Washington Generals Head Coach. COMPLETE CAMPAIGN FINANXE REFORM IS THE ONLY WAY TO GET OUT REPRESENTATIVE DEMOCRACY BACK! The only ones represented now are the rich and the corporations. Very undemocratic!!!

[emulatorloo]

78. I thought he was a Nazi_Communist?

[Egalitarian Thug]

66. ..

[MjolnirTime]

77. Do you ever stop and think how little you contribute to this board or this society?

Your bitterness is all that is left.

[tridim]

79. He thinks he's very clever.

Maybe the most clever of them all!!!11

[ohiosmith]

87. This post was alerted on. The jury voted 3/3 to let it stand.

At Tue May 14, 2013, 01:33 PM an alert was sent on the following post:

Do you ever stop and think how little you contribute to this board or this society?
http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1002&pid=2843021

REASON FOR ALERT:

This post is disruptive, hurtful, rude, insensitive, over-the-top, or otherwise inappropriate. (See <a href="http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=aboutus#communitystandards" target="_blank">Community Standards</a>.)

ALERTER'S COMMENTS:

Yet another personal attack, which is all this person has ever posted in this incarnation or his previous ones which were banned for--you guessed it--posting constant personal attacks.

You served on a randomly-selected Jury of DU members which reviewed this post. The review was completed at Tue May 14, 2013, 01:37 PM, and the Jury voted 3-3 to LEAVE IT.

Juror #1 voted to HIDE IT and said: So, where's the "personal attack" that the poster refers to in the OP? Manny is questioning the government's tactics.
Juror #2 voted to LEAVE IT ALONE and said: I don't know who this is suppose to be. And one was just left that was much more rude to another long time DUer. So, meh.
Juror #3 voted to LEAVE IT ALONE and said: Post is apropos considering the OP! Leave it.
Juror #4 voted to LEAVE IT ALONE and said: Pathetic post, but not hide-worthy.
Juror #5 voted to HIDE IT and said: How has this person remained here so long?
Juror #6 voted to HIDE IT and said: No explanation given

Thank you very much for participating in our Jury system, and we hope you will be able to participate again in the future.

[Scuba]

88. Defending the 99% does not equate to "bitterness". Find something better to do.

[MjolnirTime]

92. Manny is no defender. He's an attacker through and through.

[Scuba]

100. You're very mistaken. I'll take Manny on my team any day.

[idwiyo]

104. And so would I. Without hesitation.

[idwiyo]

98. Speaking for entire DU? How very presumptuous of you.

[Number23]

109. + a million. But as long as the recs come, that's all that matters. All that's EVER mattered

Though the rec count is far lower this time. Hmm, I guess shitting on Democrats 100% of the time on a supposedly Dem web site must get old to even the most die hard fans.

[msanthrope]

85. Karl Rove's Crossroads was outed, and you have a problem with the President

apologizing for this awful, terrible, unfortunate, oversight, and moving on?

http://www.democraticunderground.com/10022842968

[humbled_opinion]

112. Teabaggers want to open up....

a new line of attack on Obama with "The Fish rots from the head down"..... Culture of political attack on opponents, the "Chicago Way"....

[rhett o rick]

114. TW Manny, now you've gone too far. The 5.6 trillion is no big deal, it has to be divided up among

the 1% so it comes out to to a paltry 5.6 million each. Chump change. Donald Trump's family cant buy personalities for that. And as far as the paupers losing 600 billion, really, REALLY! when you divide it out it's really only about $2,000 per pauper or about $8,000 per family. Good grief TW Manny. That's nothing. It could be worst. If Mittens were president who knows the paupers would probably have lost $2, 200 each. And if a meteor had strucken the earth, wow then, well just wow. Dog love the President.

[leftstreet]

116. K&R

lol