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me b zola

(19,053 posts)
Tue May 14, 2013, 04:07 AM May 2013

In whose best interest?

"...The emphasis has changed from the desire to provide a needy child with a home, to providing a needy parent with a child. As a result, a whole industry has grown, generatining millions of dollars of revenue each year..."

~Special Rapporteur, United Nations
Commission On Human Rights

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In whose best interest? (Original Post) me b zola May 2013 OP
And the silence is stunning n/t me b zola May 2013 #1
dood, you waited 2 minutes at 3:00 a.m. for a response Lil Missy May 2013 #3
FFS, This is a topic that no one shows up for... me b zola May 2013 #4
I guess its not a "scandal" for children to be taken from their parents me b zola May 2013 #2
What is this JustAnotherGen May 2013 #5
The quote is about international adoption... me b zola May 2013 #7
Okay - thanks JustAnotherGen May 2013 #9
I have been conflicted as to respond to your post or not me b zola May 2013 #10
I don't feel entitled JustAnotherGen May 2013 #11
you have a point irisblue May 2013 #6
Children are never asked about their expeirence of adoption me b zola May 2013 #8

Lil Missy

(17,865 posts)
3. dood, you waited 2 minutes at 3:00 a.m. for a response
Tue May 14, 2013, 04:37 AM
May 2013

FFS, wait until people wake up later in the day for a response.

Cheers

me b zola

(19,053 posts)
4. FFS, This is a topic that no one shows up for...
Tue May 14, 2013, 04:46 AM
May 2013

But cheers to you, Lil Missy. I live my life with laughter, dance and drink. But I will be damned if I don't reach out when there is one person on this earth that my post may help.

me b zola

(19,053 posts)
2. I guess its not a "scandal" for children to be taken from their parents
Tue May 14, 2013, 04:29 AM
May 2013

Human trafficking can only be talked about in cases like Ohio~~

me b zola

(19,053 posts)
7. The quote is about international adoption...
Tue May 14, 2013, 08:18 AM
May 2013

however I believe that it pertains to all adoption practices. Adoption is supposed to be in the the best interest of the child, but when it becomes an avenue for people to have children then it becomes human trafficking.

JustAnotherGen

(31,810 posts)
9. Okay - thanks
Tue May 14, 2013, 01:41 PM
May 2013

Well -could you help me out and start going after the health insurance companies for not covering IVF then. They can even get away with it in NJ when it is mandatory they cover it.

$13K to $15k per round.

Yeah - I know - crazy right?

But since we aren't 'good enough' to adopt because we are a bunch of traffickers - then I guess it's the only option.

me b zola

(19,053 posts)
10. I have been conflicted as to respond to your post or not
Sun May 19, 2013, 09:08 PM
May 2013

From my point of view you exactly made my point, that adoption has been for almost a hundred years been about supplying a needy family with an infant rather than a needy infant with a family. But Orwell's warning seems to have no boundaries and many people have come to conclude that preying upon poor and/or under served women is justified if it ends with a middle or upper-class woman/family have a child that they believe that they deserve.

It is mind boggling that relinquishing mothers and adoptees flood the internet with their stories, but are told that they are hurting adoptive parents feelings. So no matter what percentage of us are grievously hurt, we are expected to STFU and be grateful for our experiences.

I don't want to hurt anyone one's feelings, I just don't want ONE MORE MOTHER TO BE COERCED OUT OF HER CHILD BECAUSE SOMEONE ELSE (MORE PRIVILEGED)FEELS ENTITLED TO IT.

JustAnotherGen

(31,810 posts)
11. I don't feel entitled
Mon May 20, 2013, 10:33 AM
May 2013

I feel punished.

I should have gotten pregnant at 15, dropped out of school, and never tried at life.

Seriously - I have zero desire to adopt.

Now slam me because I dont want anyone's child but my own flesh and blood.

Sorry - but that adoptee is not always "good enough". That's the entire story. We aren't all salivating to take someone else's throw away. We want our own, and these babies of others are not the desired outcome. Don't even get me started on the Frankenbabies (other woman's eggs - gross).

Anyways - one less tube since last Thursday. Just pray I get through this and can get a baby out of it. That's the only response necessary. Baby dust. You played by the rules, you went to U, you have a career - and you shatter Republican beliefs that ALL black women have babies at 15 and go in welfare. . . But baby dust is all you get for daring to be something and make something out of your life.

irisblue

(32,967 posts)
6. you have a point
Tue May 14, 2013, 07:42 AM
May 2013

but posting in the very early hours of the night (on the American east coast) won't get your message seen. Kicking b/c I have 2 nieces who were foreign born.

me b zola

(19,053 posts)
8. Children are never asked about their expeirence of adoption
Tue May 14, 2013, 08:26 AM
May 2013

...and when they are asked it is always from the adopters point of view.. There is an entire world in cyberland where adoptees come to voice their options, but we are hushed into a corner...
https://www.facebook.com/#!/groups/8658195302/?fref=ts

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