It does not matter that the community of DU knows the truth...what matters as the GOP

[Ninga]

know..is perception....from the beginning of the first Obama presidency...up to this very moment the GOP took charge of perception...thus took charge.

They are the masters of distraction. They do not care nor give any weight to any media who write or talk about the lock step obstructionism of GOP. The GOP marches right through the weak Democratic blockades - McConnell blinks at words of criticism like they were dead fish wrapped up in yesterday's newspaper.

The GOP are relentless, do not care, and are winning the war of perception, maybe not inside of the liberal blogosphere..but they are winning.

[kentuck]

1. As I recall, this was the opinion and attitude after 9/11 also...

When we were the 10%. We did not give up and were able to help elect the first black President.

[el_bryanto]

2. Good point.

I think there's a thought that somehow if we get to be better foolers we can fool the people into believing in liberalism - that's what Rove and company do. They fool people into being conservative. But I don't know that this is an accurate perception. At best it's an oversimplification.

The truth is the American people do react positively to our ideals lots of the time.

Bryant

[EV_Ares]

4. Bryant true but if it is true, then we are not doing something right because it can be done. I have

always thought we over analyze & make things a little more complicated in explaining like what happened with the Affordable Care Act of President Obama's. The republicans on the other hand seem to say things in a very simple talking point way. They just throw it out & people seem to grab on to a lot of them. I think we can do better & if we can find a way to do it, the people will react in a more positive way because our ideology is better & it encompasses a much larger percentage of the country, not just for the few the republicans work for.

[EV_Ares]

3. Thank you Ninga for this post as it contains what I was about to say: First I want to thank DU for

being here. Have not been here for some time as we fight among ourselves a little too much sometimes like the Democratic Party does so have a tendency to stay off of boards & go to sites where can read more Regardless, I appreciate having DU here to come when things are the way they are right now. I can keep up with things right here w/o having to listen to the cable spin & right now, MSNBC is not any better.

Ninga is right & in Ninga's post shows how the republicans from the very day of the Inauguration many of them gathered together to form their plan on getting rid of this President & they failed he got two terms but they never quit & on top of this they have Fox to do so much for them.

Where are the Democrats, they knew all of this, they have known this is the way it always has been & especially with how bad they wanted to get rid of President Obama, they should have got their committee together & determined how they were going to fight back, they have the muscle, they always just seem reluctant to use it. To me Reid is weak, President Obama for whatever reason always seemed like he could convince them to work with him, hopefully, he has got it now that they never did, never will & are not going to do anything but go after him & destroy anything he has done or is going to try to do.

That said, look at Benghazi, faux started on this with McCain & Graham. Did they ever stop? They kept on & kept on until they have what they have now.

The IRS - if anything should come out of this it should be about those political organizations both republican & democratic should be looked at & disbanded entirely or make a determination yes, OK but no tax exempt status & all donors have to be disclosed, no secrecy of whether it could be donors from out of country or in country.

The AP popping up now, don't know enough about it. It doesn't sound good getting the phone #s of the journalists, don't know what really took place.

Maybe you find this a rambling but go ahead & fire back at me, plan on being here now for a while, don't care to listen to cable. I have The Nation, Mother Jones & Salon where I like to read. Will definitely hit the gym more often to help alleviate getting to down about all this. I will remain positive & you all will probably help by hearing some good things. Thanks.

[Ninga]

6. I concur with what you have said. Yes, DU is a port in the storm, a positive. Getting Obama

re-elected was important but without a huge push back effort by Democrats - time is flying by, wasted. Distraction by the GOP is working to keep serious issues from getting full debate...like universal background checks....a dying swan.

[Ninga]

5. To say this another way...have the GOP acknowledged Obama's reelection? It does not

matter to them does it?

[EV_Ares]

7. No, it never did, they have always been about finding a way to make him irrelevant in any way

possible, stop him at almost any cost & they have been relentless from the day he first got elected. The problem is the party did not seem to ever get aggressive enough in fighting back to make the republicans change in any way & maybe nothing could have helped but it seems like the Dems never really fight back hard enough.